Windows 7

**PFC5** · 10-20-2009, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex_Brit

Well XP is will receive extended support until 2014.

Where did you hear this?

This is great news for me and how they should handle it IMO.

Ex_Brit · 10-20-2009, 12:36 PM

Unsafely....

DonnyDC · 10-20-2009, 04:17 PM

I dont know why everyone gets into a hoopla over new operating systems.
I got XP, snow leopard, Vista, and Windows 7 on various computers. And imo theyre all just miniscule upgrades over XP.

junehhan · 10-20-2009, 04:24 PM

Has anyone heard about how resource intensive Windows 7 will be compared to Vista? My laptop came with Vista and it really chugs. Unfrotunately, i've maxed out my memory at 2gigs, so I can't really do much there.

I bought my laptop on the day Vista came out, before people realized that Vista was going to need way more than 2gigs of memory, and way more processing power than a dual core 1.6ghz cpu.

Ex_Brit · 10-20-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFC5

Where did you hear this?

This is great news for me and how they should handle it IMO.

Here and various other places on the web: http://support.microsoft.com/lifecyc...pha=Windows+XP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex_Brit

Unsafely....

That remark was in answer to the comment on people using it long past its end-of-life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonnyDC

I dont know why everyone gets into a hoopla over new operating systems.
I got XP, snow leopard, Vista, and Windows 7 on various computers. And imo theyre all just miniscule upgrades over XP.

Because of the added features, functionality, flexibility etc. etc.

Vista is still my favourite system of all time and I've never had major issues with it but I do like Windows 7, after a few hacks made some features missing reappear, thanks to this forum. Both are light-years ahead of XP IMHO, and anyone using Linux really must be a masochist, and anyone who extols nothing-but-a-MAC-will-do, must have money to burn.

**PFC5** · 10-20-2009, 05:12 PM

Thanks for the update (and link) on the extended support date for XP. This means other Tax software I rely on for my business will (hopefully) not force me to a newer windows version just to run it next year.

NonMcTubber · 10-20-2009, 05:18 PM

Point taken, Ex_Brit, I too have a variety of computers and now have a laptop with Vista.

Its may be a matter of opinion, but I consider Vista bloatware with little to recommend it in terms of extra features I need. On the plus side, Vista may have better memory handling and better security, but that comes at the cost of huge mega bloat. I happen to have 3 gigs of ram on my Vista machine and it can't really compete with XP with only a gig of ram. I really pity any fool who bought Vista with less than 2 gigs of ram, get below 1 gig of ram and Vista will be a complete dog.

While I may tend to agree that a mac is over priced, I am not as down on Linux as you are. The problem is and remains, Microsoft OS's have a huge competitive advantage because window OS's do an excellent job of supporting hardware and will run a huge body of X'86 code. One fine day, someone will develop OS's that do as well, and after that Microsoft is going to have to drop its arrogance and compete. I look forward to that day.

As for win 7, its too early to tell, but a learning challenged Microsoft may bring out a less bloated OS. But if Microsoft were really responsible, they would have kept developing XP instead of trying to sell us an endless number of calculated obsolesce series of OS's.

As it is, Personal computers have greatly dropped in price while increasing in power. But to take advantage of the fact, there is no excuse for Microsoft to take all those advantages away by increasing bloat faster than computer speed increases.

DerFish · 10-20-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex_Brit

Vista is still my favourite system of all time and I've never had major issues with it but I do like Windows 7, after a few hacks made some features missing reappear, thanks to this forum. Both are light-years ahead of XP IMHO, and anyone using Linux really must be a masochist, and anyone who extols nothing-but-a-MAC-will-do, must have money to burn.

I really like Vista and will probably buy a new machine with Windows 7.
Do you have any insight into junehhan's good question? ......

Quote:

Originally Posted by junehhan

Has anyone heard about how resource intensive Windows 7 will be compared to Vista? My laptop came with Vista and it really chugs. Unfrotunately, i've maxed out my memory at 2gigs, so I can't really do much there.

Ex_Brit · 10-20-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DerFish

I really like Vista and will probably buy a new machine with Windows 7.
Do you have any insight into junehhan's good question? ......

My personal experience is that Windows 7 is less resource hungry than Vista which in turn is less resource hungry than XP...but that is only my opinion and my machine is pretty state-of-the-art so nothing much would slow it down anyway.

Core i7-975 at 3.86ghz on Asus P6T Deluxe V2 M/B
12gb RAM, nVidia GTX295 Graphics ... etc. etc.

junehhan · 10-20-2009, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex_Brit

My personal experience is that Windows 7 is less resource hungry than Vista which in turn is less resource hungry than XP...but that is only my opinion and my machine is pretty state-of-the-art so nothing much would slow it down anyway.

Core i7-975 at 3.86ghz on Asus P6T Deluxe V2 M/B
12gb RAM, nVidia GTX295 Graphics ... etc. etc.

Vista is less resource hungry than XP?

Ex_Brit · 10-20-2009, 10:34 PM

Well I don't find it bad but it depends on what one is doing I suppose. I just found XP to be a very slow system. I only just recently got rid of it so I no longer have anything to compare notes with. Now I just boot between Vista and Win 7.

DIRECTVMAN · 10-20-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

Besides with Windows 7, Microsoft owns your computer, you don't. They can do with it whatever they want...

Yep, they'll come to your house and take THEIR computer back since they OWN your computer once Windows 7 is installed.

Ex_Brit · 10-20-2009, 10:50 PM

Right and if you believe that you can believe anything.

DIRECTVMAN · 10-20-2009, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex_Brit

Right and if you believe that you can believe anything.

I don't believe it, I can't believe anyone would say stupid crap like - Microsoft owns your computer, they can do whatever they want.

Ex_Brit · 10-20-2009, 11:00 PM

I was agreeing with you really....the earlier comments to that effect weren't worth answering IMHO.

10-20-2009, 12:36 PM	#17
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10-20-2009, 04:24 PM	#19
junehhan High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 29 Posts: 5,663	Has anyone heard about how resource intensive Windows 7 will be compared to Vista? My laptop came with Vista and it really chugs. Unfrotunately, i've maxed out my memory at 2gigs, so I can't really do much there. I bought my laptop on the day Vista came out, before people realized that Vista was going to need way more than 2gigs of memory, and way more processing power than a dual core 1.6ghz cpu. __________________ X360 Gamertag junehhan Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD player -Klipsch RSW10 Subwoofer -Pioneer VSX1016TXVK reciever -Klipsch Synergy Quintet III 5 channel speakers AIM: jhhan80 HD-DVD's: Loving it! BD's: When we get a reasonably priced BDP with lossless decoders Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state, they forget that the state lives at the expense of everyone - Frederich Bastiat, 1848

10-20-2009, 05:12 PM	#21
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,349	Thanks for the update (and link) on the extended support date for XP. This means other Tax software I rely on for my business will (hopefully) not force me to a newer windows version just to run it next year. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

10-20-2009, 05:18 PM	#22
NonMcTubber High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 810	Point taken, Ex_Brit, I too have a variety of computers and now have a laptop with Vista. Its may be a matter of opinion, but I consider Vista bloatware with little to recommend it in terms of extra features I need. On the plus side, Vista may have better memory handling and better security, but that comes at the cost of huge mega bloat. I happen to have 3 gigs of ram on my Vista machine and it can't really compete with XP with only a gig of ram. I really pity any fool who bought Vista with less than 2 gigs of ram, get below 1 gig of ram and Vista will be a complete dog. While I may tend to agree that a mac is over priced, I am not as down on Linux as you are. The problem is and remains, Microsoft OS's have a huge competitive advantage because window OS's do an excellent job of supporting hardware and will run a huge body of X'86 code. One fine day, someone will develop OS's that do as well, and after that Microsoft is going to have to drop its arrogance and compete. I look forward to that day. As for win 7, its too early to tell, but a learning challenged Microsoft may bring out a less bloated OS. But if Microsoft were really responsible, they would have kept developing XP instead of trying to sell us an endless number of calculated obsolesce series of OS's. As it is, Personal computers have greatly dropped in price while increasing in power. But to take advantage of the fact, there is no excuse for Microsoft to take all those advantages away by increasing bloat faster than computer speed increases. __________________ High definition is not the definition of my life. But knowledge is power and HD does have some potential to increase content variety and choices.

10-20-2009, 10:34 PM	#26
Ex_Brit Trying To Love Philips Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 68 Posts: 96	Well I don't find it bad but it depends on what one is doing I suppose. I just found XP to be a very slow system. I only just recently got rid of it so I no longer have anything to compare notes with. Now I just boot between Vista and Win 7. __________________ Peter Consumer Security

10-20-2009, 04:17 PM	#18
DonnyDC High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,198	I dont know why everyone gets into a hoopla over new operating systems. I got XP, snow leopard, Vista, and Windows 7 on various computers. And imo theyre all just miniscule upgrades over XP.

10-20-2009, 10:50 PM	#28
Ex_Brit Trying To Love Philips Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 68 Posts: 96	Right and if you believe that you can believe anything. __________________ Peter Consumer Security

10-20-2009, 11:00 PM	#30
Ex_Brit Trying To Love Philips Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 68 Posts: 96	I was agreeing with you really....the earlier comments to that effect weren't worth answering IMHO. __________________ Peter Consumer Security

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