Is the economy better?

[oblioman]

Originally Posted by DerFish

Agreed. Plenty of blame to go around. More of a government problem than a single party. Disappointing thing is that there has been no change.

me 100% agrees. The only change we have seen is more government - and none of us want that.

[Nexgenrulz]

Originally Posted by oblioman

Some people tend to disagree - http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1811

Thanks again for posting a partisan left wing article. Notice how I use the CBO, which is non partisan.

[Nexgenrulz]

Originally Posted by oblioman

me 100% agrees. The only change we have seen is more government - and none of us want that.

You could have fooled me.

[oblioman]

Originally Posted by Nexgenrulz

You could have fooled me.

Not trying to fool anybody. Some of us "dangerous liberals" just might be your neighbor. Us liberals wish for the same free, healthy, progressive country as the conservatives do. We merely have a difference of opinion on how to maintain this beautiful country we own.

[Nexgenrulz]

Originally Posted by oblioman

Not trying to fool anybody. Some of us "dangerous liberals" just might be your neighbor. Us liberals wish for the same free, healthy, progressive country as the conservatives do. We merely have a difference of opinion on how to maintain this beautiful country we own.

Progressive?? We conservatives never use that word! That's code for excessive douche baggery!!

[Nexgenrulz]

Originally Posted by Cygnus

Yeah, tax cuts for the super rich certainly worked when dubya was prez.. What the economy is facing is bigger than what the typical supply side economics thinker understands... If taxes were cut, companies would have taken the $$ and run while still slashing jobs...

Who in the hell needs companies to do that? Obama & his cronies are taking your money while slashing jobs. Unemployment speeding to 10%. But I forgot, it's a jobless recovery.

[hatt]

Originally Posted by oblioman

me 100% agrees. The only change we have seen is more government - and none of us want that.

Originally Posted by oblioman

Not trying to fool anybody. Some of us "dangerous liberals" just might be your neighbor. Us liberals wish for the same free, healthy, progressive country as the conservatives do. We merely have a difference of opinion on how to maintain this beautiful country we own.

So you are a Liberal voting for Liberal candidates who run on expanded government, but you don't want expanded government?:wh at:

[Lee Stewart]

$1.42 trillion federal deficit, with more to come, sows seeds of another economic crisis

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nat...,6148183.story

[oblioman]

Originally Posted by hatt

So you are a Liberal voting for Liberal candidates who run on expanded government, but you don't want expanded government?:wh at:

As of late the only difference between a conservative administration and a liberal administration is - borrow and spend or tax and spend. What choice did we have in the last presidential election? As for bigger government, did not the Bush administration oversee the largest expansion of federal government - ever?

Maybe me thoughts are old school liberal, hell, who knows. If me be wrong thinking that we should take care of our own,,,okay, me be wrong. If me be wrong thinking we should go to war with a solid plan, win, then come home,,,me be wrong. If me be wrong thinking that we should explore and use new technology for energy instead of exploiting natural resources for few to profit,,okay, me be wrong. If me disagrees with spending around 25% of our budget on defense and less than 5% on educating our children,,okay, me be wrong. If me be wrong thinking that we should spend our tax dollars at home on infrastructure and health care,,okay,,wrong again. Bottom line,,,me lass and family would rather be wrong as a liberal, than so-called "right" as a conservative. Maybe we should send this to beck so he can shed another dusty tear. Now that was hysterical (maybe rush can send some 'cotins his way),,,

[hatt]

Originally Posted by oblioman

As of late the only difference between a conservative administration and a liberal administration is - borrow and spend or tax and spend. What choice did we have in the last presidential election? As for bigger government, did not the Bush administration oversee the largest expansion of federal government - ever?

Maybe me thoughts are old school liberal, hell, who knows. If me be wrong thinking that we should take care of our own,,,okay, me be wrong. If me be wrong thinking we should go to war with a solid plan, win, then come home,,,me be wrong. If me be wrong thinking that we should explore and use new technology for energy instead of exploiting natural resources for few to profit,,okay, me be wrong. If me disagrees with spending around 25% of our budget on defense and less than 5% on educating our children,,okay, me be wrong. If me be wrong thinking that we should spend our tax dollars at home on infrastructure and health care,,okay,,wrong again. Bottom line,,,me lass and family would rather be wrong as a liberal, than so-called "right" as a conservative. Maybe we should send this to beck so he can shed another dusty tear. Now that was hysterical (maybe rush can send some 'cotins his way),,,

Maybe we should use the sensible technologies we already have like nuclear and diesel instead of chasing special interest's pipe dreams that are decades away or just plain stupid in the first place like dumb ass ethanol from corn. Maybe we should fix the education system instead of throwing more money at a failed system. Maybe we'd have plenty of money to work on infrastructure if so much didn't get wasted on bullshit.

[oblioman]

Nuclear for sure. We should take advantage of the best nuclear source we have on an everyday basis - the sun. Failed education,,yup. Don't know about your locale, but around here most schools were off for a week due to flu, then they turned around and went into fall break for another week off. Lil Johnny needs to stay in school o be educated.

[hatt]

Originally Posted by oblioman

Nuclear for sure. We should take advantage of the best nuclear source we have on an everyday basis - the sun. Failed education,,yup. Don't know about your locale, but around here most schools were off for a week due to flu, then they turned around and went into fall break for another week off. Lil Johnny needs to stay in school o be educated.

I'm sure we'll be using the Sun for a lot of energy in the next few decades. Solar shingles will probably be cheaper than regular shingles. It's just not here yet in any form that makes economical sense. You are welcome to get off the grid and go solar right now, it's available, I'm awaiting a report. It's only money, right?

[PFC5]

Originally Posted by oblioman

Nuclear for sure. We should take advantage of the best nuclear source we have on an everyday basis - the sun. Failed education,,yup. Don't know about your locale, but around here most schools were off for a week due to flu, then they turned around and went into fall break for another week off. Lil Johnny needs to stay in school o be educated.

Trust me. Solar is STILL not ready for prime time yet. It ain't even close and i know this because one of my clients built two solar plants for property he has in Vermont and after all was said and done the person in one of the houses using it couldn't even use a HDTV or hardly any electric appliances even though the solar company swore the power provided would be about 130% of what was needed and the balance could be gotten as a credit back to the grid. It never happened and cell panels failed and in the end he had to spend $10s of thousands to run new power lines into the property. It is 10 years away from being good enough to provide power to a low use household I would say based on first hand experience.

I do agree we MUST work harder on better tech and alternate resources ASAP, but solar ain't ready for most of the country yet.

[Cygnus]

Right, solar is not ready. It is OK for powering small devices but not for anything on a grand scale. The costs are still too high for such small output.

[gregtay67]

I would love to have a solar powered bike.