Star Trek Rocks!!!!!

travis74 · 05-13-2009, 02:39 PM

Marlowe- Nevermind. Convoluted rambling.
F91- The great slusho mystery is another thing that has me wondering if Bad Robot Productions would tie the worlds together. Hasn't been in Fringe yet, soon I am sure though.

97XBAM · 05-13-2009, 03:24 PM

I don't know why some people keep thinking that this movie is a prequel , it isn't - it's a total reboot of the franchise . Which is to say everything done before is thrown out and movies can now be made without endless research on what happened before in all the previous series and movies . I've read that was a big problem when writing the script of Nemesis , which BTW only did 43 million at the box office - little more than half the opening weekend of the new Trek . Below is The Onion's take on trekkie displeasure with the new film .

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...star_trek_film

tvine2000 · 05-13-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 97XBAM

I don't know why some people keep thinking that this movie is a prequel , it isn't - it's a total reboot of the franchise . Which is to say everything done before is thrown out and movies can now be made without endless research on what happened before in all the previous series and movies . I've read that was a big problem when writing the script of Nemesis , which BTW only did 43 million at the box office - little more than half the opening weekend of the new Trek . Below is The Onion's take on trekkie displeasure with the new film .

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...star_trek_film

nemesis would have done better,but paramount went up againist lord of the rings that weekend,dumb move
you know what trekkies be damed.i'm an old trekker and why they wouldn't want to see this film is stupid.they think somehow they own trek for themselves,when in fact there was always changes in each film from the roddenberry canon.its bs!

97XBAM · 05-13-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tvine2000

nemesis would have done better,but paramount went up againist lord of the rings that weekend,dumb move
you know what trekkies be damed.i'm an old trekker and why they wouldn't want to see this film is stupid.they think somehow they own trek for themselves,when in fact there was always changes in each film from the roddenberry canon.its bs!

And there is definately homage paid to the old Trek if you know where to look for it . From the opening scene with the sound of the beeping on the old bridge in the original series , the orange skinned alien on the bridge -an obvious nod to the 70s animated series , and when Admiral Kirk was asked how he beat the unwinnable Kobayoshi Maru simulation at the academy in Wrath of Khan , he took a bite of what ? Probably more that I didn't notice upon first viewing , but that's why movies like this must be viewed more than once . Oh and the biggest change in ST canon IMO was the change in Klingons from merely bronze skinned to crested heads - lamely explained in the DS9 crossover Trouble With Tribbles episode by Worf as "we don't talk about those (type of Klingons) ."

1955 · 06-01-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigloww

I just wish Uhura had big cans like she did in the original series..

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This statement is truly sophomoric...I like that

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Peter Marlowe · 06-02-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 1955

This statement is truly sophomoric...I like that

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That statement about Uhura's cans was ****ing hysterical...

1955 · 06-02-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Marlowe

That statement about Uhura's cans was ****ing hysterical...

I was LMAO over that one. He's got a point though...to me the new Uhura is absolutely gorgeous, but bigger cans couldn't hurt, this is a Hollywood movie after all.

Peter Marlowe · 06-02-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1955

I was LMAO over that one. He's got a point though...to me the new Uhura is absolutely gorgeous, but bigger cans couldn't hurt, this is a Hollywood movie after all.

Look, I enjoy gasping at monstrous melons as much as the next lad, but as hot as the younger Uhura was, the whole "sexy Uhura" thing making her out to be like a walking Victoria's Secret model just didn't fit; this younger generation loves this shit -- every horror remake has exploited the chisled abs on the dudes, the tight firm perfect asses on the young ladies, and now we have a buff, outrageously physical young Kirk that was there merely for female eye candy...I just didn't buy it.

To me, this tactic ruined remakes like Texas Chainsaw Massacre and House of Wax, and while gazing at the super-hot Jessica Beil's delicious ass or Paris Hilton's tight bod is indeed delightful, you can just sense that they were there strictly for window dressing -- they did nothing for the narrative and stretched the limits of the serious "believability" of the originals.

1955 · 06-03-2009, 12:55 AM

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again. TOS was no less full of eye candy than the newest versions. Kirk (while sucking in his stomach after his shirt was always conveniently ripped off) was constantly getting on with some alien poontang, and though they might not compare to the Victoria Secret types in today's movies, they were just as HOT in their time. I mean, just look at the total mini skirts of the female crew!!! And what about Yeoman Janice Rand??? Hot for her time, just like Nichelle Nichols was!

You sound like you're trying to make TOS so pristine and pure of anything remotely "Hollywood" that I'm starting to wonder if you've seen TOS?

All I'm saying is, that at the time of TOS, the producers tried to get the hottest chicks that they could afford also, and MANY of the episodes were ALL about sex.

This is fun, I hope you think so also!

Peter Marlowe · 06-04-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 1955

I think I said this before, but I'll say it again. TOS was no less full of eye candy than the newest versions. Kirk (while sucking in his stomach after his shirt was always conveniently ripped off) was constantly getting on with some alien poontang, and though they might not compare to the Victoria Secret types in today's movies, they were just as HOT in their time. I mean, just look at the total mini skirts of the female crew!!! And what about Yeoman Janice Rand??? Hot for her time, just like Nichelle Nichols was!

You sound like you're trying to make TOS so pristine and pure of anything remotely "Hollywood" that I'm starting to wonder if you've seen TOS?

All I'm saying is, that at the time of TOS, the producers tried to get the hottest chicks that they could afford also, and MANY of the episodes were ALL about sex.

This is fun, I hope you think so also!

You're asking have I ever seen the ORIGINAL SERIES?

Oh, yes, my son...indeed I have; grew up on a steady diet of it...Charlie's crush on your mentioned Yeoman Rand in "Charlie X"...Kirk's undermining attempt at getting under Spock's skin in "Shore Leave" in which he calls Sarek a "computer" and that Spock should be squatting in a mushroom instead of passing himself off as a man...that smokin' hot yeoman in "Mirror, Mirror" in the alternate universe that plots to get rid of the bearded Spock...

I've seen them all countless times; all 79 of 'em (if I remember right), and I will stick to my beliefs that this reboot was merely to cater to modern tween/twenty-something audiences raised on a steady diet of Alias, Lost and Smallville. Now, that may be what the producers were going for, but I didn't buy a young Kirk with a chisled six pack making out with Green Twat while Uhura busts in as her roomate...this just didn't feel like Trek to me.

1955 · 06-04-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Marlowe

You're asking have I ever seen the ORIGINAL SERIES?

I was just checking...

All in fun.

tipstir · 06-04-2009, 12:40 PM

The only feature of this movie I didn't care for was the ship of the enemy. I had looked like sharp razor edges found on top of the state prison wall. When I drive by that place you can see the sharp razor edges. Good that there though keeps them from escaping.. But the movie should have gone with other type of ship. One thing I do like they had brought back those short mini shirts for the Women officer crew!

F91 · 06-09-2009, 12:57 AM

Over 300 million worldwide. Abject failure that it is......

tvine2000 · 06-09-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Marlowe

Look, I enjoy gasping at monstrous melons as much as the next lad, but as hot as the younger Uhura was, the whole "sexy Uhura" thing making her out to be like a walking Victoria's Secret model just didn't fit; this younger generation loves this shit -- every horror remake has exploited the chisled abs on the dudes, the tight firm perfect asses on the young ladies, and now we have a buff, outrageously physical young Kirk that was there merely for female eye candy...I just didn't buy it.

To me, this tactic ruined remakes like Texas Chainsaw Massacre and House of Wax, and while gazing at the super-hot Jessica Beil's delicious ass or Paris Hilton's tight bod is indeed delightful, you can just sense that they were there strictly for window dressing -- they did nothing for the narrative and stretched the limits of the serious "believability" of the originals.

i agree with you peter,but come on hollywood has always been like that.i mean a movie star like joan crawford,bette davis and others were hot women in there day.its just in there day they coundn't get away with the ''tight bod''or the skin they show today.i mean look back at the tos,women in tight short dresses,come on.

how about a young shatner,he was a hot male for that time,women loved him.hollywood is still hollywood,and it hasn't changed one bit.
for some reason when it comes to the new trek film you see it different and throw all the rules of hoolywood out the window.

as far as the new uhura,to me it works.if you look at the tos uhura many times had her eye on spock!with all those emotions in check,if those emotions were let loose spock would have been the best lay on the ship!

tvine2000 · 06-09-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Marlowe

You're asking have I ever seen the ORIGINAL SERIES?

Oh, yes, my son...indeed I have; grew up on a steady diet of it...Charlie's crush on your mentioned Yeoman Rand in "Charlie X"...Kirk's undermining attempt at getting under Spock's skin in "Shore Leave" in which he calls Sarek a "computer" and that Spock should be squatting in a mushroom instead of passing himself off as a man...that smokin' hot yeoman in "Mirror, Mirror" in the alternate universe that plots to get rid of the bearded Spock...

I've seen them all countless times; all 79 of 'em (if I remember right), and I will stick to my beliefs that this reboot was merely to cater to modern tween/twenty-something audiences raised on a steady diet of Alias, Lost and Smallville. Now, that may be what the producers were going for, but I didn't buy a young Kirk with a chisled six pack making out with Green Twat while Uhura busts in as her roomate...this just didn't feel like Trek to me.

being tv as it was in the 60's you don't think they would have shown kirk banging some chick on a bed half naked or more if they could have?how about enterprize where t'pol drops her jammies and we see almost a full back view of her naked and on tv.i'm not buying what your saying.you just sound like you want trek as it was not is.

as my point was before 40 years ago it was hot babes and hot men that sold movies ,it still is.

05-13-2009, 02:39 PM	#31
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06-03-2009, 12:55 AM	#39
1955 lost Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Huntington Beach Age: 54 Posts: 599	I think I said this before, but I'll say it again. TOS was no less full of eye candy than the newest versions. Kirk (while sucking in his stomach after his shirt was always conveniently ripped off) was constantly getting on with some alien poontang, and though they might not compare to the Victoria Secret types in today's movies, they were just as HOT in their time. I mean, just look at the total mini skirts of the female crew!!! And what about Yeoman Janice Rand??? Hot for her time, just like Nichelle Nichols was! You sound like you're trying to make TOS so pristine and pure of anything remotely "Hollywood" that I'm starting to wonder if you've seen TOS? All I'm saying is, that at the time of TOS, the producers tried to get the hottest chicks that they could afford also, and MANY of the episodes were ALL about sex. This is fun, I hope you think so also! __________________ Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency. Panasonic PATH50PZ800U 50" plasma Panasonic DMP-BD35K 1080p Blu-ray Player Onkyo TX-SR606 @5.1 soon to be 7.1 FIOS triple play Xbox360 Elite

06-09-2009, 12:57 AM	#43
F91 Plasmatic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 2,782	Over 300 million worldwide. Abject failure that it is...... __________________ "you give me a water board, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders." Jesse Ventura Proud to be living in a hatt free zone.

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05-13-2009, 03:24 PM	#32
97XBAM High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 131	I don't know why some people keep thinking that this movie is a prequel , it isn't - it's a total reboot of the franchise . Which is to say everything done before is thrown out and movies can now be made without endless research on what happened before in all the previous series and movies . I've read that was a big problem when writing the script of Nemesis , which BTW only did 43 million at the box office - little more than half the opening weekend of the new Trek . Below is The Onion's take on trekkie displeasure with the new film . http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...star_trek_film

06-04-2009, 12:40 PM	#42
tipstir Banned User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,664	The only feature of this movie I didn't care for was the ship of the enemy. I had looked like sharp razor edges found on top of the state prison wall. When I drive by that place you can see the sharp razor edges. Good that there though keeps them from escaping.. But the movie should have gone with other type of ship. One thing I do like they had brought back those short mini shirts for the Women officer crew!