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Old 05-14-2005, 04:16 AM   #1
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I may sound stupid but i do not understand why the DT channels are in decimal format. My television cannot go to these stations. Can someone explain this to me?
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Old 05-14-2005, 07:26 AM   #2
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If you can't get the 'decimal channels' then you probably don't have an HDTV tuner: what kind of an HDTV set do you have? Was it sold to you as being HDTV capable, or just HDTV ready?
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If you can't get the 'decimal channels' then you probably don't have an HDTV tuner: what kind of an HDTV set do you have? Was it sold to you as being HDTV capable, or just HDTV ready?
I think there's more to it then just having an HDTV tuner. I have a Sony 42WE655 w/ a built in tuner and I only receive 1 'decimal channel'. My problem is caused by the master antenna system in my condo. Couldn't kingleon's problem be caused by his antenna?

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Obviously a poor antenna could be the problem, but it is also likely that the TV does not have a ATSC (digital) tuner in it either.
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Old 05-14-2005, 12:06 PM   #5
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Yes my tv has a tuner. It is a sony wega trinitron HDTV ready with built in tuner.
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Old 05-14-2005, 01:32 PM   #6
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The tuner that is in that TV is a NTSC (analog) tuner and will no get digital stations. See: http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/Sony_K...ecoustics-cnet and notice the Essential extras: HDTV source; DVD player; home-theater audio system.

That is what is called a HDTV ready TV.

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Old 05-14-2005, 02:02 PM   #7
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No it has a NTSC tuner.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1077628885916
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:14 PM   #8
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OK i think i got it now. The best buy website sorta threw me off. I wanted HDTV built in. I have HDTV Ready.

Let me see if i got this strait now.
There is a HDTV monitor
There is a HDTV ready tv
There is a HDTV built in tuner tv

I should have gotten the samsung. I didnt know. I wish they would take it back now.
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:25 PM   #9
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Ok i have a question. With a set top box will this tv I have be able to receive the full High Definition that is offered over the air or will it be downgraded to lower resolution.
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It's also NOT a widescreen! All HDTV is sent as widescreen & the ATSC standard specifies a widescreen display.

TVs with built in digital tuners are usually called "integrated HDTVs". All sets over 36" will have to have them if made after July 1 this year.

I'd take it back & get a widescreen with digital tuner...
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I may sound stupid but i do not understand why the DT channels are in decimal format. My television cannot go to these stations. Can someone explain this to me?
The non HDTV subchannels 2 through 5 can be accessed manually on my STB remote by using the "-" symbol to the left of the "0" as the "decimal point" however that is just SDTV or slide shows in this area - weather cams and sometimes ABC news from its web site The SDTV is better on my XBR using the NTSC tuner to watch the analog signal. - PBS eg. broadcasts a DVD-like 480p separate program it calls HDTV on the -1 channel and its regular SDTV signal on -2 duplicating its analog transmitted program - sometimes it transmits the higher subchannels but as yet I haven't seen any images beyond 2 just the channel IDs when they are hot..
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It's also NOT a widescreen! All HDTV is sent as widescreen & the ATSC standard specifies a widescreen display.

TVs with built in digital tuners are usually called "integrated HDTVs". All sets over 36" will have to have them if made after July 1 this year.

I'd take it back & get a widescreen with digital tuner...
Well with my budget i could only get a 30 inch widescreen so i just got a 32" 4:3. A lot of stations are still in that format and the black lines on the top and bottom the the ones that are widescreen will be close to what the 30 inch would have given me anyway. The samsung 32 inch has a ATSC tuner in it. I think i will try and get this one.
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Lots of luck... you're going to hate it when you find out how much easier & better a real widescreen HDTV is to use. Those narrowscreens try to cram 5 times the pixels of HD into the middle 3/4 of the screen, and show widescreen as 'shortscreen'. And you'll undoubtedly be back asking how to fix your 'postage stamp' tiny image with bars all around.

Those 'lots of stations' will go off the air in 597 days, then all stations will be letterboxed for you.
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It's also NOT a widescreen! All HDTV is sent as widescreen & the ATSC standard specifies a widescreen display.

TVs with built in digital tuners are usually called "integrated HDTVs". All sets over 36" will have to have them if made after July 1 this year.

I'd take it back & get a widescreen with digital tuner...
Not a Widescreen and no ATSC tuner??? What the heck was he thinking when he bought this? I'm not sure if he should be embarrassed, or if the salesperson should be ASHAMED! I think there should be some kind of law that says nobody is allowed to purchase a TV unless they have a signed note from RSawdey or Rbinck that certifies the buyer as capable to make an informed TV decision (or at least sign a waiver that they know about this Hi-Def Forum).
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I think there should be some kind of law that says nobody is allowed to purchase a TV unless they have a signed note from RSawdey or Rbinck that certifies the buyer as capable to make an informed TV decision (or at least sign a waiver that they know about this Hi-Def Forum).
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