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Old 03-26-2008, 04:08 PM   #1
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I'm under the "Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn" market of Florida.

I can get CBS, ABC, FOX and the CW just fine and clear in digital/HD, however I cannot get Channel 2 (NBC) in at all. Now I'm in an apartment, 2nd of a 3 story building, using a Phillips MANT510 indoor antenna with amplification all the way up, and running it on a Samsung TX-P3271H 4:3 CRTHDTV with built in digital tuner. I pointed the antenna in the direction that the map points me to and I still cannot get it. It's really difficult to tell what channels are coming from what towers, but judging on the fact that the mileage for CBS and NBC are the exact same (22.06 miles, 97degrees) I'm assuming it's from the same tower. Can anyone figure out what I need to do to get this channel in? Thanks!
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I'm under the "Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn" market of Florida.

I can get CBS, ABC, FOX and the CW just fine and clear in digital/HD, however I cannot get Channel 2 (NBC) in at all. Now I'm in an apartment, 2nd of a 3 story building, using a Phillips MANT510 indoor antenna with amplification all the way up, and running it on a Samsung TX-P3271H 4:3 CRTHDTV with built in digital tuner. I pointed the antenna in the direction that the map points me to and I still cannot get it. It's really difficult to tell what channels are coming from what towers, but judging on the fact that the mileage for CBS and NBC are the exact same (22.06 miles, 97degrees) I'm assuming it's from the same tower. Can anyone figure out what I need to do to get this channel in? Thanks!
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:16 PM   #3
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Channel 2 is transmitting at very low power compared to your other stations. According to TV Fool, Channel 2 is at 36kw and the others are all well over 600kw. You may need a bigger/better antenna to pull Channel 2 in.

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Holy crap! Why would they do that, and do you think it's possible that they'll increase the strength?

If not, are there any other indoor antennas that would be able to boost the signal that far? I'm still within the 30 day return period for this antenna.
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Holy crap! Why would they do that, and do you think it's possible that they'll increase the strength?.
It cost a whole lot less to transmit at that low power. No idea if they will increase the power. You could call them and ask if they are going to up the output once they shut off their analog signal in 2009.

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If not, are there any other indoor antennas that would be able to boost the signal that far? I'm still within the 30 day return period for this antenna.
I have no experience with indoor antennas, so I will defer to others here on the board. Channel 2 is also the only VHF station in your area so whatever antenna you do get will have to be UHF/VHF.

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Is the digital signal VHF as well? The antenna I've got has rabbit ears on it as well, and I haven't bothered adjusting them since I don't care about the analog channels. If I should start playing around with them to get NBC though, I certainly will.
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Is the digital signal VHF as well? The antenna I've got has rabbit ears on it as well, and I haven't bothered adjusting them since I don't care about the analog channels. If I should start playing around with them to get NBC though, I certainly will.
Yes, the digital signal for channel 2 is VHF also.

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Old 03-26-2008, 05:31 PM   #9
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Uh, yes, WESH is the only area station broadcasting their digital signal on VHF (channel 11 to be precise). If you've been trying to pick it up with an indoor UHF antenna, no wonder you've had no luck.

You need bunny ears, and adjust them so they measure 28 inches tip-to-tip. Orient them perfectly horizontally, and rotate the entire antenna towards Bithlo if possible.

I have a $10 antenna (ears and loop) on the sill of a north-facing window of a mobile home 17 miles from the transmitter. It's not even oriented properly -- the window heading is a good 60 degrees off the transmitter heading, yet I still get a stable signal 99% of the time on WESH-DT (usually peaking around 50-60 on a scale of 100 on the signal strength meter).

BTW, concerning transmitter power: UHF stations are authorized to transmit much higher power than VHF stations, because it takes that much more power to achieve the same coverage area at the higher frequencies.
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:43 PM   #10
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Fantastic information, thank you to you both. I certainly would have been entirely clueless about this station had I not heard from you both. When I get home tonight I'm going to give it a shot and try the bunny ears in the upright position. I think I've got 28-inches of clearence, as I placed the antenna on my armoire in my bedroom which is the tallest piece of furniture in my little apartment.
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Well at least I have the analog signal in, although it's extremely static-filled, but the sound is good at least. Since this MANT510 antenna is already amplified, would it be alright to get another amplifier to stick between the cable to boost the signal even more? I'm unsure of stacking these sorts of things and don't know if it would cause more problems then it would fix.
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I was having trouble with channel 2, and just have a cheap indoor antenna, but a magnavox, digital ready tv. All the channels came in fine, except channel 2 never would come in except on analog. After getting the tv to look at channel 11, based on the information from another post, and then having the tv auto program again, it was able to get 2 on 2-1.

I hope that helps someone else who has trouble getting in channel 2.

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