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Old 02-22-2008, 03:54 PM   #1
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I just installed a 30 foot telescoping mast, grounded both mast and coax using a RS U75R antenna. I get all the local DTV channels here north of Tampa perfectly including the couple that are high VHF with the U75. As one who years ago was into TVDX with a huge antenna that was bought in about 1976 or so on also a telescoping mast with a rotor and all, would like to get back into the DX. Antennas have changed since then somewhat I notice and there are so many models to choose from that its kind of mindboggling to me. The design I had isn't even made anymore by anyone I can find. The model i had then had the usual UHF corner reflector array in front with an extender sent with the antenna to make the yagi part longer. the VHF rear section was actually made like a corner reflector but in reverse like this <. The upper and lower antennas were approx. 8-10 ft. long. I'm sure someone will remember who might have made these. It was a good one too and very large. Used the Alliance U-110 rotor I think it was and it was still in use in 2004 when the entire array was taken down. But I need some suggestions about what to consider this day and time for a DX antenna both DTV and alalog. I bought the U75R just to see what digital signals were up around here; am pleased with its performance so far but need suggestions for something else. Now that i can get back into DX any suggestions are welcome.
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well...what I am using for uhf is the 91XG from antennas direct...and for vhf I am using the VIP307 from wade delhi...I have been told that they still will make them as demand requires...if you are interested here is a picture of it.

of coarse you can stack the 91xg's if you want to get some added gain...there may be something better out there, but the 91xg style is easy to handle...
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ROFL...I was typing a reply while you typed this....also I forgot to tell him to read in the DX'n forum sticky to see what it will do...well I'll do that now....

Seriously...its a great rig and if you read my posts in the DX'n forum sticky you'll see some of the distances I've covered with it....although my newest record is a few posts down....any questions about it will be gladly answered....

Here is one post that I left some screen shots in just to show what it'll do on a bad day....
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:59 PM   #5
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Thanks for the help guys; I'll go in and read those posts; Between my first post and now, I did find my old "Installing TV&FM Antennas" book by Leo Sands; the antenna I had is pictured in there ; it was the Winegard "Supercolortron Color Wedge" (what a title) for V/U/FM.
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Thanks for the help guys; I'll go in and read those posts; Between my first post and now, I did find my old "Installing TV&FM Antennas" book by Leo Sands; the antenna I had is pictured in there ; it was the Winegard "Supercolortron Color Wedge" (what a title) for V/U/FM.
sounds like the new antennas with HD thrown in their name....probably made soon after the advent of color television. probably was a good one, but I can't find the first thing about it on google even...wonder why...oh well...still gotta love that name
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There's still several of the old Winegard VHF wedge's around here.They look a little ratty though.Wish I could find a new one in a box.I've heard they were very good,although I can't remember what the "wedge" was all about.

To the OP.The Quad-X UHF style(XG91) is the best.Stack two about 3ft apart Horizontally,then put a VHF under those about 3-4ft.An upgraded rotor would be recommended(AR-40,Yaesu G-450A,etc).A CM7777 preamp too,unless you're right on top of some local broadcast towers.

Lowband Eskip should be very exciting after Feb 09 with all the analog lowbanders off the air.Exotic double-hops to SA will be possible from Fla.
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Default The Winegard Colortron Color Wedge Antenna

For those curious about the Winegard wedge antenna here is the photo from the Leo Sands antenna book 1976
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I think that I've seen a few of them still in use(maybe) around here....or at least something very similar.
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I think that I've seen a few of them still in use(maybe) around here....or at least something very similar.
A trip down memory lane and my old Winegard antenna spec. sheet....see attached.

That antenna evolved into the Winegard CA8100 in the 80's and was discontinued about a dozen years ago. The CA8100 was a tadd shorter than the CA8200 which evolved into the HD8200P now the hd8200U.

The Hd8200U would be a tadd better than the antenna you mention

The alliance U110 rotor is still available by the way. use one here. Norm Bought all stock.

http://www.rotorservice.com/new%20rotors.htm

Replaced the U 110 motor last summer. lasted over 23 years. Would have lasted longer If I did not install the cm 4228 along with my Hd8200p.
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Lossless diplexor for VHF and UHF available?

THEE narrowist beamwidth !
Great for canyons and hills country...
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Yup, we saw a few of those around the New London area 35 years ago: Channel Master also marketed a Wing-Style antenna that somewhat resembled it: I still see a few of those floating around, and Channel Master stopped making those back in 1972: go figure!
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Hey RickFla, we are neighbors...I am in Zephyrhills
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:35 AM   #14
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We're not far from you of course, near S.R. 56 and B.B.D. I got my 30 ft. telescoping mast at Huston's TV in Z'hills. Nice people there. They still sell the famous "Bay area special" antennas there also. I'm a retiree from FOX13 so have been in this area for eons.
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You know something.. I just saw the pic of your Winegard color wedge... and guess what? My brother still has one in use at my grandmother's farm. It's been there since 1974, I believe... and still pulls in Kansas City analogs just fine at 65 miles away. the digitals break up pretty bad, though... this year he is gonna make the change, I think he's waiting for me to get my XG-91 and see how it does, and if he likes it, he'll buy one. (I'm waiting for my trees to leaf out before I replace mine, as I might have a dead massive quadruple trunk 60 foot tree to have cut down in the near vicinity)
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