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Old 01-12-2008, 07:33 PM   #1
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I have an OTA antenna which came with a small rg59 cable which i connected to the antenna at the antennas end but to reach the tv i had to connect another cable using a barrel connector. The cable i connected is an rg6 cable which runs to the tv. Occasionally the tv goes into standby mode, Pioneer told me i'm getting bad data, i'm just wondering if the 2 different cables connected together could be the cause, thanks.
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:54 PM   #2
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Nope there is nothing wrong with the connection. Sounds like you are using an indoor antenna and that's the problem.

Post your zip code in the Local HDTV Info and Reception forum and someone will help you further.
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Nope i'm using an outdoor antenna, a Winegard MS2000 omni-directional antenna. So your saying it's ok to push a signal from an rg59 thru an a rg6 extension.
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Sure. Is your Square Shooter the one with the preamp? You probably will need a preamp, if not.
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It's not the square shooter, it looks like a saucer it comes with a amp. This is a picture of it http://www.starkelectronic.com/wms2000.htm
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As rbinck said, there is no issue with the RG59/RG6 cable connection that should be causing the problem.

You say that the TV "goes into standby mode"; does this mean that the TV actually switches to standby (sort of "off"), or do you get a "no signal" notification on the screen.

If it is a "no signal" condition, it could be an intermittent amplifier, a poor (intermittent) connection somewhere, a bad cable connector, etc. - check all connections, make sure the connectors are properly attached and screwed snugly.

If the set is truely going into standby, it is most likely a problem with the set and a service call would be in order.
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My bad, the Square Shooter model number is SS2000. That antenna is a omnidirectional antenna and it could be it is getting a strong signal or reflection causing your signal to drop out due to cancelation. I'd try a Square Shooter with preamp over that antenna if looks is why you choose antennas.

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My bad, the Square Shooter model number is SS2000. That antenna is a omnidirectional antenna and it could be it is getting a strong signal or reflection causing your signal to drop out due to cancelation. I'd try a Square Shooter with preamp over that antenna if looks is why you choose antennas.

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I'm in Canada, Hamilton Ontariio, l8h6x8. I'm right on the lake so i get good signals beyond the antennas supposed range. I made a change i replaced the r59 part with an r6 cable replaced the barrel connector with an f81 barrel connector with the blue inserts in the connector we'll see what happens. On a side note i never have these problems with my bedrooms Hitachi plasma or the spare rooms Panasonic Tau. It seems the Pioneer has a built in diagnostic system with the amount of flashes relating to a specific problem.

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I have moved this to this forum so hopefully someone can be of further assistance.

The last post would require the thought that all TV tuners are equal. They aren't as you have found. I have an original Panasonic DTV receiver that will not work at all with my antenna. Whereas all of my later models do just fine.
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I'm in Canada, Hamilton Ontariio, l8h6x8. I'm right on the lake so i get good signals beyond the antennas supposed range. I made a change i replaced the r59 part with an r6 cable replaced the barrel connector with an f81 barrel connector with the blue inserts in the connector we'll see what happens. On a side note i never have these problems with my bedrooms Hitachi plasma or the spare rooms Panasonic Tau. It seems the Pioneer has a built in diagnostic system with the amount of flashes relating to a specific problem.
If you know your location's latitude and longitude then you can enter that information rather than zipcode into TvFool.com (or antennaweb.org) to get info on the stations available. I don't believe that either site accepts Candian postal codes (which are far more precise than US zip codes) but using latitude and longitude renders that a moot point.

TVfool.com provides much more information than antennaweb.org. In either case, you need to note whether the site states bearings relative to true north or magnetic north and convert, if necessary to magnetic north bearings if you wish to use a compass to aim your antenna.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:58 AM   #11
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After reading your replies to my query i started looking into pre amps and basically it stated a pre amp is better close to the antenna than inside the house when using an outdoor antenna. As you know i'm using an omni directional antenna by Winegard, the ms2000, i was attracted to this antenna because it is omni directional due to the fact we have stations all around us, Hamilton and Toronto Ontario and Buffalo NY. Would you know if i could put a pre amp on my existing antenna's mount and if i can what would be a proper splitter for using 3 tvs? Thanks for all your help thus far, a good day to you sir.
No problem. The omni directional antennas are unfortunately a marketing gimmick for the most part aimed at people just like you, imo. Rarely with digital signals are they successful because of the fact they receive signals in a omni directional pattern. Digital signals are susceptible to multi-path which instead of seeing a ghost like you would with analog TV, you just get nothing, or intermediate signal.

Successful multi-directional reception usually will require a rotator or multiple antennas aimed at different directions combined with a special joiner. Note the channel spacing need to be about 5 channels apart for this route.

I doubt a preamp will solve your situation and a cheap one to try will most likely make the situation worse. A high quality low noise mast mounted preamp is the only thing I would try.

Maybe someone else will have a better suggestion for you.
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