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Old 09-09-2007, 08:21 PM   #1
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I live in McKinney, TX and would like to know what I should get for an antenna to get all the local HD and SD channels. I believe ABC is the only HD that is broadcast in VHF, but many of the SC channels are also in VHF. My zip is 75070. I understand most of the channels are around 190 degrees from my home site with one or two at around 230 degrees.
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DFW area has a scad of OTA channels from 2 to 60.

All the majors (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC and PBS + CW) are all together south of Arlington. Get at least a RED rated UHF/VHF antenna like the CM3677. If you split the signal to more than 2 TV's you might step up to the next model, the CM3679.

Remember that a marginal signal is to be avoided, go for the biggie, the CM3671.
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I live in McKinney, TX and would like to know what I should get for an antenna to get all the local HD and SD channels. I believe ABC is the only HD that is broadcast in VHF, but many of the SC channels are also in VHF. My zip is 75070. I understand most of the channels are around 190 degrees from my home site with one or two at around 230 degrees.
If you are only looking for digital channels (HD and SD) then the CM4228 is the "antenna of choice" for DFW. Channel 8 WFAA is on VHF-hi and KTVT CBS will be moving back to 11 in 2009, but the CM4228 even though it is a UHF antenna does a good job on these VHF channels with the generally flat terrain in DFW. I am in Parker, TX which is just east of Allen, about five miles closer to the Cedar Hill transmitter farm than you are, and get great signals on both the UHF stations and on WFAA with a CM4228/CM7777 preamp combination.

If you want to get the analog stations between now and early 2009 when they go away, you would need a VHF/UHF combination antenna such as suggested by jim5506, because channels 4 and 5 analog are VHF-lo. If you only want digital (HD and SD), you don't need the large antennas required for VHF-lo. And the UHF performance of the CM4228 is much better than any of the CM36xx series.
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Great, thanks for all the advice. I heard the Terrestrial Digital DB8 is a good antenna for Dallas as well. Do you think it would be able to pick up any of the VHF stuff? The only reason I ask is because I might have access to one from a friend.
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Great, thanks for all the advice. I heard the Terrestrial Digital DB8 is a good antenna for Dallas as well. Do you think it would be able to pick up any of the VHF stuff? The only reason I ask is because I might have access to one from a friend.
The DB8 is a good antenna but does not have any real performance at VHF, so it will almost certainly not get you WFAA. See the "using a UHF antenna for VHF" chart at http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/comparing.html
You would need to add on the same mast a VHF-hi antenna like the Winegard YA1713 - couple them together thru the CM7777 preamp.
The DB8 is more expensive than the CM4228 but if you are getting the DB8 free, the DB8/YA1713 combination is a good one.

Buying these antennas online is the best option - you can get the CM4228 at Fry's in Plano but the CM7777 preamp and the YA1713 are not usually available locally. Solid Signal and Warren Electronics usually have the best prices.
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Thanks for the great info. I'm looking forward to getting it up an running soon.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:16 PM   #7
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OK, I've decided to go with the DB8 and the Winegard YA1713 with the CM7777 pre-amp. Now, the question is how far apart on the mast do the two antennas need to be?
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OK, I've decided to go with the DB8 and the Winegard YA1713 with the CM7777 pre-amp. Now, the question is how far apart on the mast do the two antennas need to be?

As far apart as you can, but just a few feet will probably be OK. If you get them too close together the antennas will interfere with each other and neither will work as well as they should. Make sure your antenna pole has a very solid mounting, the DB8 has a pretty high wind loading (although not as much as the CM4228).
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Great. I'll go to Radio Shack and pick up a nice sturdy mast to mount the setup to my chimney. I think I can keep the two antennas about 3' apart. I tested the DB8 by just setting it up on my second floor and am able to get all the digitals except ABC as you said. The VHF antenna is on order and will be here next week. Thanks again for the help.
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This setup has been working great until the switch. Now I can't get CBS at all. I noticed that it was one of the channels that went from
UHF to VHF (ch 19 to ch 11). I haven't had any trouble with ABC which has already been in VHF (ch. 8). I did notice that CBS has the lowest KW output of all the local digital channels. Any ideas?
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This setup has been working great until the switch. Now I can't get CBS at all. I noticed that it was one of the channels that went from
UHF to VHF (ch 19 to ch 11). I haven't had any trouble with ABC which has already been in VHF (ch. 8). I did notice that CBS has the lowest KW output of all the local digital channels. Any ideas?
Many people are having problems with CBS11 since it moved to VHF, it looks like it just has insufficient power to maintain its coverage area. But you should not have any problems receiving it in McKinney with the YA1713. Here in Parker I am showing signal meter readings of 75 or so on my HR20 and mid-80s on my AM21, with a YA1713 and CM7777. Suggest you try re-pointing the YA1713 while looking at CBS11 signal strength.
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Thanks for the tip. I was thinking about doing just that. Just wanted to hear if anyone else in the area was having the same issue with the same antenna I have. I'll see what happens.
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Well, no luck. I re-pointed the antenna as well as tried to raise it and lower it as much as I could, but the signal was very weak at best. At most I could get about 50%. Even at that, it wouldn't hold the signal...continuously went up and down below 50%. Any suggestions for a better VHF antenna that will get such a low powered signal or maybe a professional that can find the best placement for my setup? I have taken out all my splitters and have a cable run of only about 25 feet. This is hooked into a Tivo HDDVR box or an Insignia NS-DXA1-APT converter box. Anything would help at this point.
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One quick note to add, I noticed that I get some reception on 11-1 after dark. I also get channel 12-1 from the opposite direction from 11-1 after dark without rotating the antenna. Any reason for this? According to TVFool, channel 11-1 is 2Edge. What does that mean? Should I be pointing the antenna differently because of that?
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OK, I've decided to go with the DB8 and the Winegard YA1713 with the CM7777 pre-amp. Now, the question is how far apart on the mast do the two antennas need to be?
Did you take the cover off the 7777 and set the switch to "separate"? It comes new with the switch in the position assuming one 1 antenna will be used.
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