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Old 06-03-2007, 06:14 PM   #1
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Greetings,

I've been reading around and talking to people on the forums and everything I've read has indicated that from my location (London, Ontario) there isn't much chance of receiving OTA broadcasts due to the distance.

I worked out the distance using Google Earth, and to pickup broadcasts from the CN Tower (in Toronto) I need an antenna that has a range of 175KM (110 miles). The best I've seen so far was that 91XG antenna that had a range of 70 miles.

So, does anyone have any ideas or know of any hardware that can get the job done?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:19 PM   #2
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Try putting your Lat and Lon into www.TVFool.com. It shows some digitals quite near you that might be a problem (tuner overload) if you need to pre-amp your antenna to receive far-fringe reception. It also shows many other digitals and estimates how weak/strong those signals might be.

Actually your best bet might be Cleveland stations since most of the traverse is over Lake Erie and I've heard of persons in San Diego picking up LA TV stations because the signal travels over water, not land (water is pretty flat).

Hardware wise the 91XG plus a CM7777 pre-amp is about the best you can hope for. At those distances daytime reception will be spotty.
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They don't make antennas beyond about a 75 mile range because of the curvature of the Earth. If you are on a Mountian with flat ground between you and the transmitters, a 70 mile antenna may very well work, otherwise you need to get into the dx technology and hope.
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:24 PM   #4
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jim5506, I tried TV fool and I'm surprised that so many channels showed up in green. Especially since I'm so far from all of them. Then again, maybe I'm misreading the information. In any case, I'll give that a go if you think I might be able to get those stations.

rbinck, I'm a total newb. What is "the dx technology"?

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could you let me know the hardware decisions: I'm in london also !
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btw, which toronto stations are you trying to get ?
radiostationworld dot com has a list of ontario stations
I can get city on channel 31 (broadcast out of woodstock!) and global on channel 29 (out of sarnia!) as well as CTV on 42 (sarnia again), but like I said, they're toronto stations being relayed.
I'm doing that with a Channel Master 4221 4-Bay
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20 years ago I grew up on the east side of Cleveland in a town called Mentor, OH. I clearly remember being able to barely bring in a TV station from London.

I'd think with a bit more effort things might be possible.
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rbinck, I'm a total newb. What is "the dx technology"?
DXing is the use of specialized antennas designed for long distance reception. Generally it will involve an antenna farm using multiple antennas. Do a Google search on "TV DXing" and spend a while reading.

There are several designs that use multiple Channel Master 4228 antennas for 16 and 32 bay antennas. The 4228 is popular for DXing because of its large gathering area it presents to the signal vs a yagi. By ganging 4 of them together, it dramatically increases the gathering area of the overall antenna. There are also ganging kits for other types as well.

Here's a place to start: http://www.amfmdx.net/fmdx/dxing.html

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could you let me know the hardware decisions: I'm in london also !
ppauper at hotmail dot com

btw, which toronto stations are you trying to get ?
radiostationworld dot com has a list of ontario stations
I can get city on channel 31 (broadcast out of woodstock!) and global on channel 29 (out of sarnia!) as well as CTV on 42 (sarnia again), but like I said, they're toronto stations being relayed.
I'm doing that with a Channel Master 4221 4-Bay
Actually, that sounds great. What else can you get?
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how did it work out for you ?

I upgraded slightly (sold the CM4221, got a CM4228)
and now the set up is
CM4228
balun
low noise amp (kitz technologies) affixed directly to balun with male-to-male connector
8 feet of RG11 cable
TV

I'm using this indoors in a 5th floor apartment facing WNW.
I can get
CTV Sarnia 41
Global Sarnia 29
City TV (brantford ?) 31 99% of the time: the problem here is the signal is coming from the opposite direction through the building so I have to turn the antenna around, and 1% of the time I pick up a weak michigan station (Ion ?) on the same channel instead

CBS 61 Detroit 75% of the time
ABC 7 Detroit basically breakfast time only
PBS 56 and PBS 28 sometimes

NBC and Fox there's a problem with as other stations are on the same channels

Erie is closer but I'm facing the wrong way
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In London, Ontario I am able to pick up Sun TV, which is an HDTVchannel. The quality is perfect with a Philips SDV2510/27 indoor antenna that I bought from Walmart for about $30.
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