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#646 |
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High Definition is the definition of life.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 31
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Just Wondering Why You Recommend The Winegard Pre Amp For This Set Up I Am In The Same General Region 17225 Xip 4228 And Was Just About To Order A Cm 7777 Pre Amp In Addition I Have Been Pondering Putting Up An Additional One Over Top 4228 To Hopefully Help Get A Better Signal From Balt Dc Area Right Now Its Poor At Best Like 1 Balt Station And 1 Or 2 More With Bad Weather Any Suggestions
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#647 |
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What is HD?
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2
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can someone recommend an antenna for kennard, texas, 75847, antennaweb shows the following channels available, i am on a high hill, lots of trees, a power line, i have a 50' pole to mount the antenna on, any help would be appreciated, i would prefer a combo antenna if one would work
KYTX 19 CBS NACOGDOCHES, TX 14° 38.3 19 uhf KYTX-DT 19.1 CBS NACOGDOCHES, TX 14° 38.3 18 vhf KTRE 9 ABC TYLER, TX 81° 28.6 9 uhf KETK 56 NBC JACKSONVILLE, TX 354° 47.2 56 vhf KTRE-DT 9.1 ABC TYLER, TX 81° 28.6 11 uhf KFXL-LP 30 FOX LONGVIEW, TX 88° 30.5 30 uhf KIVY-LP 16 A1 CROCKETT, TX 240° 11.1 16 vhf KTRE-DT 9.1 ABC TYLER, TX Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 81° 28.6 9 KBTX 3 CBS WACO, TX 215° 72.1 3 vhf KTWC-LP 12 FMN CROCKETT, TX 240° 13.1 12 uhf KFXK 51 FOX LONGVIEW, TX 14° 63.9 51 Last edited by wfontjr; 08-08-2008 at 09:55 PM. |
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Yellow Submarine
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 2,418
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Perhaps use a channel 9 tuned yagi with an Antennas Direct 91XG for UHF on a rotator joined with a CM7777. If you don't want two antennas try a CM4228. It probably would get your channel 9 VHF and all the UHF's.
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My plasma is High Def.
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5
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I wanted to let you know that thanks to this forum, we managed to get all the stations we wanted and then some. We used the VIP-306 and 91XG combined with the CM7777 and it worked like a charm. The set up isn't quit perfect yet but it will be soon when we add an antenna rotor. My brother has a metal tower (American tower?) that only reaches about 15 feet high. He has about 10 feet of mast on top of that. We got all of the Lexington stations with the exception of low power WBLU and WKLE (KET-PBS). KET is a statewide network and we can easily receive 2 other stations carrying their programming. My brother doesn't have a TV with an ATSC tuner yet so we used an Insignia Digital box and the signal strength on WLEX and WTVQ (channels 39 and 40, broadcasting from the same tower 61 miles away) was about 65% at 4pm. At first I was disappointed in the VIP306 as it did well for WDKY (channel 4, 50 miles away) but could not bring in WKYT (channel 13, at 61 miles away on a tower adjacent to WLEX/WTVQ). We discovered a faulty balun on the 306 and replaced it and voila, 75% on WKYT. We could also get WYMT with ease almost anyway we pointed our antenna from bouncing around on the nearby hills no doubt. In addition, WEMT and WETP from Tennessee have always been pretty easy to pick up on our farm. We have yet to try for the Knoxville stations as his mast setup is not quite where we want it to be for rotation. When I was younger and lived on this farm, it was sometimes easier to get Knoxville's 6 and 10 than our Lexington affiliates. They are farther away at about 85 miles but they have a huge advantage in elevation and VHF frequencies. My brother plans to eventually add a 10 foot section of tower and to shorten the mast at the top as the winds can be quite strong and in the past have taken many an antenna down in this area. We may eventually add some other antennas, pointed in other directions (using separate amps) to get away from having to use the rotor but, only if we can get enough signal to keep from losing any channels when we combine them. Also, I wanted to point out that when I used Antennaweb and tvfool, those sites vastly underestimated what stations we could receive. I noticed they use the same data for terrain and elevation that my GPS uses. The fork in the road they describe for our location is incorrectly identified and it places our address in the wrong location. Also, elevation is apparently interpolated and for our location it is off by more than 100 feet, maybe even 200 feet. I used Topozone after I got back to DC to estimate the elevation, and I could see that they too use the same values that TVFool and AntennaWeb use since the road is depicted in the same incorrect way. I know the bend in the road is lower than our farm and it shows it as possibly 160 feet higher. When I tried compensating for this in TVFool, the predictions looked much closer to what we experience when we set up the my brothers system. Just FYI. |
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Antenna Maven
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Springfield, MA
Age: 54
Posts: 2,116
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Congratultions on your success! When choosing a rotator, I strongly suggest that you consider spending the extra money and get a Hy-Gain AR-40 HD rotator rather than the Channel master 9521A, as the AR-40 is much better able to cope with the large load that this antenna array poses.
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High Definition is the definition of life.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Austin DMA
Posts: 135
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Sony KD34XS955
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Pointe-Claire QC
Posts: 2,326
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OTOH, TVFool.com shows all of the stations that I watch from Mount Mansfield VT, Lyon Mountain NY, Terry Mountain NY, Rousses Point NY plus all my Canadian stations. TVFool.com has become a far better resource for people living in my area that antennaweb.org ever was. |
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High Definition is the definition of life.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Austin DMA
Posts: 135
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![]() I get all of them just fine -- again, with NO amplification. Antennaweb doesn't list ANY of them. Last edited by ziggy29; 08-14-2008 at 03:13 PM. Reason: fix typos |
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#654 |
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Gotta watch NASCAR HDTV
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NW Illinois
Posts: 311
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I have a J-mount not in use. I would like to mount a 5 foot mast with a rotor and a 91xg and cm7777 & maybe with a medium range Yagi for Vhf-LO. Will this little mount be OK for all of that?
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#655 |
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How can anyone watch standard def?
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 21
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okay so I went to my antenna dealer in town and they said the zip12v was just as good as the vip306sr and was half the price.. he wants 330 for the 306. and recomended some BEM13 for the amp and didn't have the 7777, should I just stop dealing with this guy and buy online or what!?!
if that is a half decent price for the 306sr then I think I will buy that. but buy the 4228 or xg91 online, or over the line in Minot. thanks |
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Antenna Maven
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Springfield, MA
Age: 54
Posts: 2,116
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Sorry, but you better find another dealer: he's out to sell you what he has lying around...A VIP-306SR ought to cost you about $225...
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#657 |
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My plasma is High Def.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5
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I've been reading up on the up-coming HDTV switch and antennas and get more confused all the time. I have now found out that some stations are moving down to high VHF from UHF post 2/17/09!
I want to be able to get Boston stations, which are at 195 and 196 degrees, under 45 miles and at frequencies 7 (WDHD) and 20-42 in addition to local NH stations, which are at 1, 18 and 301 degrees for frequencies 33, 11 and 9, respectively (all under 20 miles). I will be placing the antenna on my roof 25+ feet in the air. How will the high VHF channels effect my antenna choices? Any help will be greatly appreciated. |
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#658 |
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Yellow Submarine
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 2,418
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You can either go with a combo antenna (a compromise) or get a VHF-high band antenna and add it to your UHF with a joiner.
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Programming: Dish HD Absolute with 0.01 Cinemax Displays: Sony VPH-D50Q - 7 ft on the wall; Hitachi 57R59 Receivers: DishNetwork ViP722k; DishNetwork ViP211K; DishNetwork ViP211; DishNetwork 301; 2 - TiVo Series 2's; Accurian 6000; Samsung SIR-T351; Panasonic ShowStopper 2000; ATI HDTV Wonder Dish 1000 on 110,119,129; Dish 500 on 61.5; DPP44 Sony 80GB PS3; Toshiba HD-DVD |
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#659 |
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1080P changes your life..
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern Michigan
Posts: 19
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Hello all! Awesome forum. I live in Tecumseh, MI (49286), and am roughly the same distance from Detroit and Toledo, (about 50 miles from the furthest stations I would want to receive.) I have an old, old rooftop antenna with the brown, flat lead from the 1960's that a satellite TV installer said I could tap into with an RG-6 cable for local HD channels. All I can get is 2-8 stations depending on the weather and how well I point it with vice grips since the rotor on the antenna has it's power leads cut off and I can only aim it towards Detroit and Toledo (which is OK), but I can barely hold a signal. It comes up anywhere from 40-80%. I reached my limit today when the Lions-Falcons game out of Toledo kept fizzling out at around 55% no matter what I did. I just don't want to settle for watching the non-HD programming from Dish if I don't have to!!
I saw Tigerbangs post back in 2004 stating the following would be a good setup: 1 Channel Master 4228 UHF antenna 1 Wade-Delhi VIP-306 VHF antenna 1 Channel Master Titan 7777 preamp 1 Channel Master 9521a rotator 30'+ antenna height from the ground Is this still true and are all of these parts still available? I was able to find all of them except for the Wade-Delphi antenna. Is this the best stuff still available and if not, what would be a good setup for me? Thanks. DH |
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#660 |
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digital DX'n is alive
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Greenhill, AL.
Posts: 658
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yes this is still the best overall setup although the 91xg from antennas direct can be substituted for the 4228 if you think that multipath or cci might be a problem.....if you need full band vhf the vip 306 is your best option, here are some useful phone numbers for obtaining one:
Lafayette Electronic Supply Lafayette, IN (765) 447-9660 Wiltronics Supply Tyler, TX (903) 597-6315
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