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Old 01-31-2017, 08:13 AM   #31
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In an above post, rbinck says that he records an over the air signal of Gunsmoke so he can watch it later, with KODI, every season of Gunsmoke is available for on demand viewing, so recording it is not really needed.
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I looked at some of the Gunsmoke episodes and must say the video is quite a bit poor compared to the OTA recordings. I also viewed a couple of the original Apprentice episodes and they appear to be SD recordings someone made back then. Even had some local news pop up! Those I would guess would be considered as pirate sites which may be technically illegal to view. Going around on some of the new shows like the ones that BiXLL mentioned, they appear to be coming from the network sites which would not be a problem to view.

If one is worried about this, I'd suggest reading this: https://thevpn.guru/is-exodus-legal-...di-xbmc-addon/

I don't see a lot of people being notified about viewing, as they usually go after the source servers. Some are overseas and can't be prosecuted.

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Well, I've spent some time using the Exodus add-on in kodi and have the conclusion that on my 50" plasma the video quality is pretty poor on most streams. It appears that many streams are recordings which have been stripped of commercials and on pirate servers. When you select a given show to view, the software first runs through a list of providers to present a list of providers which you can try to use. This list can take some time. These providers can be accessed directly from your browser, but having Exodus automatically check for you is helpful. I found that many providers will have restrictions (wanting to be paid) and you may have to try several to get the video started. Sometime the process will just hang up for minutes.

We never watched the original Apprentice shows and my wife wanted to check a couple of them out. They were in standard definition and very poor quality. Occasionally, there would be a local station weather alert or school closing crawl that would be shown with the show in a reduced window.

Then there is the dilemma of watching video from pirated sites. Not sure about this one as I have alternative methods to watch so I won't use kodi/Exodus much.
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Old 02-02-2017, 10:50 PM   #33
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Hi rbinck

Yes, when you watch standard definition streams, the picture is, a lot of times poor quality. That is why I always watch HD streams exclusively and if available the 1080p streams. Granted, most of my viewing is movies, but sometimes I will watch either current or older television shows. If what I think I want to watch is only available in standard definition, 9 times out of 10 I will just pick something else. Like you, as I have said, I have a Panasonic TCP 55ST60 plasma and I want the the best available quality stream when watching it.
I find the Exodus add on to be pretty content packed, but if you are not happy with it and the thousands if not tens of thousands of available shows and movies, then explore KODI and the thousands of addons that are available for it, I'm sure out of all of that, you will find some programing that you like.

Bottom line, if you pick a bad stream (something in SD) you are going to get a bad picture. Since you have a plasma screen take advantage of that great resource (sadly they don't make plasmas anymore) and watch streams that deliver the picture quality that your television is capable of. Instead of watching an SD stream, watch something in 1080p and give an evaluation of that, to be fair. Also, being able to watch what one wants when one wants to watch it, without recording, on demand, for free, it is kind of hard to complain if occasionally one watches a poor stream out of the vast magnitude that is available. If one chooses to watch a poor quality (SD) stream, that is on them, and in know way reflects the capabilities or quality of most of the content available through using KODI.

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Old 02-05-2017, 11:58 AM   #34
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Hi All !

This is a little more information for those curious about KODI. No matter which add on one uses, in most cases there are going to be numerous streams available on a video selection has been made To use rbinck's example of Gunsmoke, there roughly averages 20 streams to pick from for each episode (the first episode which features an introduction by John Wayne had I believe 38 streams). To get the best picture available, sometimes one has to go through the streams to find the one that works best (it is not always the first or second one that is listed). I find that this is most often the case when trying to watch older content which is almost always in standard definition (SD), as opposed to newer content which will be in high definition (HD) or even better 1080p.

KODI is not for everyone, but for the vast majority of people, it will fulfill most of their viewing needs and wishes. I know it does mine. I would encourage anyone who is curious to do their own research, and then if still interested, give it a try. Not many people will not like what they find.

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Old 04-09-2017, 09:42 PM   #35
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Hey Guys,

I have an update for those who currently use or are thinking about using KODI as a source for streaming media. A new version 17.1 called Krypton has been released. Apparently, more and more streaming sites are moving to HTTPS. Why is this important ? Older versions of KODI do not offer HTTPS support, which means one's streaming experience will begin to suffer. As far as I know, the new version of KODI works on Windows 7 through 10, which is what I use. For those who use an Android box, or other type of Android device like Fire TV, a Firestick, or an Android tablet, you must have Android 5.0 or higher. I had noticed a difference, and decided that if I was going to continue to enjoy my streaming experience by having to upgrade sooner or later, I may as well do it now. I installed version 17.1, and it works great. As I have mentioned before in earlier posts in this thread, with my plasma television, I almost always watch HD streams, and 1080P streams if they are available for what I want to watch.
I must say though, that my initial attempts to install the new version (17.1), did not work. I then did some research on a couple of forums, the KODI forum, and the forum at TVADDONS. I have used KODI for years, and have used versions 14.2, 15.1, and 16.1 in that time frame, each new version was installed over the older version. Apparently, in my case, their were small files left behind each time I did this, which was hampering my ability to install the new version. After doing my research, I found a solution that worked for my individual case. Since I use Windows 10, I used Cortana and typed in %APPDATA%, which accessed a KODI file in a drop down menu. Opening this file, I found and deleted any old KODI files that I guess had not been overwritten when I installed new versions, and these files were just left in some remote place on my hard drive. After I had done that, the new install was easily done. If anyone does a new install, and sooner or later it will have to be done, and encounters any difficulties, I encourage you to visit the forums I named above to get the guidance you need.
Now I am again enjoying the ability to watch what I want, when I want. Anything from movies, live television, old tv series, movies currently in theaters, live sports, etc., and I am only out the money for my internet service. If anyone has GENERAL questions about KODI or my experiences using it, I will gladly share. Beyond that however, I would encourage anyone who is thinking about streaming some or all of the content they watch to do your own research. Learn if KODI or any streaming solution is right for you and your needs.


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Old 04-10-2017, 04:03 AM   #36
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Thanks Mackz. I have not forgotten about you guys, life has been a whirlwind. Wife had 2 surgeries leaving me to take care of her, the house, and still work 11 to 12 hours a day. I am seeing some light at the end of the tunnel and hope to make the change soon. I have been using movies123 that my son downloaded on her laptop to watch movies while she is laid up. I will be putting Kodi on that and just keep her laptop as a tv unit.

Nest step is to go back and reresearch an antenna. I have been getting a lot of latest greatest email from Solid signal, but just have not had time to look into them.
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:13 AM   #37
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Mackz can you post links for the site where you downloaded Kodi 17.1 and the forums you visited? That would be helpful for BiXLL and others.

Also BixLL indicated he was going to use an antenna for local broadcast. I know you seem to think this is not necessary, but there are shows that will be on local broadcast which are not available over the internet. NextPVR software can be used with KODI to add OTA tuner support and I assume it will work with 17.1, but I haven't verified. I installed it with the previous version using my HAUPPAUGE WinTV-DualHD Dual USB 2.0 HD TV Tuner for Windows PC 1595 and it works fine. I uninstalled the NextPVR after trying it for a while since I use Windows Media Center (WMC) for my OTA recordings because I already had several series recordings entered into WMC and I like the user's interface in WMC much better than KODI.

KODI with NextPVR and WMC can all be installed on the same PC so I did that. Now I use KODI for some streaming and WMC for the OTA tuner PVR. The remote control I use also works with both KODI and WMC which is very handy only needing a keyboard for typing in show titles for searching. There are on screen keyboards available for entering text, but I use a keyboard.

Here is a link discussing the installation of the NextPVR software: https://www.howtogeek.com/247311/how...-with-nextpvr/
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The sources of information which I mentioned in the post above are http://forum.kodi.tv/ at the https://kodi.tv/ website. The other is https://www.tvaddons.ag/ and the forum is https://www.tvaddons.ag/forums/index.php. The download of the latest version of KODI 17.1 Krypton is available from either site (older versions are also still available, but who knows for how long).

In my opinion, the download from tvaddons is initially an easier and more ready to use package (if the directions are followed) for those new to KODI and those of average computer skills. Nothing wrong with the KODI download, but it does take more work to get to the same usability as that from tvaddons.
Both sites offer Windows version from the Windows store (it is an app, wich is different from the other type of download), and downloads for Android, and Apple, Linux, Raspberry Pi.

Actually rbinck, I do have an antenna that I do use for local stations mostly to watch the weather especially in the winter when we have Nor'easters here in CT. However you are right 95-98% of my television viewing is streaming with KODI because as you know, I can watch whatever I want whenever I want. As an example, now that baseball season has started, I can watch whatever game I want, for any team that I want.

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Actually rbinck, I do have an antenna that I do use for local stations mostly to watch the weather especially in the winter when we have Nor'easters here in CT. However you are right 95-98% of my television viewing is streaming with KODI because as you know, I can watch whatever I want whenever I want. As an example, now that baseball season has started, I can watch whatever game I want, for any team that I want.

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Thanks for the links. They should be very helpful for those who wish to give this a try.

Have you added the NextPVR app for recording from local broadcast? Or do you just use your TV tuner?
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I use the add on USTVNow plus to stream live television selections that are not part of what I can get locally with the antenna (ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, etc), and of course, I have to have a PVR to view those live streams from US TV NOW plus. I never record anything since if I happen to miss something live, it is always available on demand a day or so later. I do not really watch that many TV shows, in fact the only "current" thing I really watch is Game of Thrones which will not start again until sometime this summer I think, however every show from it's past seasons are available as on demand.

Everyone and their needs and wants when it comes to television are different, but for me, by streaming everything with KODI, I have never been disappointed, or failed to find something to watch, indeed, there are so many possibilities available, there is no way not to find something that is of interest. That was one of my biggest gripes when I had the full service from Comcast. I had around 200 stations and sometimes I still couldn't find something I wanted to watch. That does not happen any more. With KODI it is like I have thousands if not tens of thousands of "stations" to pick from. As a side note, I often think of what it was like when I was younger. We had the three networks, ABC,NBC, CBS, and PBS, and at various times a UHF station or two, and that was it, and in those days we always found something to watch (of course, it was usually mom or dad who did the choosing), and until we got our first color TV in 1967, we watched in black and white.

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For those who might be interested, KODI is much more than what I typically watch. There are add ons for virtually every taste, and I mean that literally. Some of the catagories are
sports- Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey, Soccer (from all over the world) auto sports (again, from all over the world), etc., I've even seen dart matches.
cartoons- almost anything from classics to Japanese anime
movies- anything from what is now in theaters to ones going back as far as "The Wizard of Oz", and farther.
television- almost any television series or shows that have ever been on from any of the networks including HBO, Showtime (I liked Spartacus), etc. documentaries, and the list goes on. One can even watch live television.
Beyond these main catagories that I have listed, there are many others, and there is also music, concerts, (I've watched the Beatles concert at Shea stadium from 1966).

What it comes down to, is the add ons that are used, and the stream that is picked(some things only have one or two streams to pick from, while other things mostly newer will have 20, 30 or more streams from which too choose.

As I have said before, it is very hard for me to believe that no one could not find something that interested them by using KODI and it's available add ons.

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Old 05-20-2017, 07:51 AM   #42
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Hi all.

Just back on the forum after more than a year. My wife and I have bought a house with an attic and went back to DirecTV but are once again thinking about cutting the cord.

I had looked at an OTA setup when we were in an apartment. Here's my TVFool report. It didn't work in the ground floor apartment, but I suspect a strong antenna will work in the attic in our home.

We have three TVS, the main one in the ground floor living room and secondaries in the 2nd floor bedrooms. KODI sounds great and I'm going to download it to my desktop computer that has Win7 Pro with WMC. I can connect it to the set in my den/spare bedroom to try it out.

Having read through the entire thread, am I correct in thinking that I can use the desktop as a hub to connect all three TVs? We record a lot of network shows to watch at our leisure and also have a Roku3 for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, NHL Gamecenter etc.

The DTV installer had to route the coax in a lot of exposed areas. I'd like to find a way to reroute it so it's not visible, but that's a whole other ballgame.

Thanks for any and all advice. Looks like we might be able to save some $$ going the KODI/WMC route.

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Having read through the entire thread, am I correct in thinking that I can use the desktop as a hub to connect all three TVs? We record a lot of network shows to watch at our leisure and also have a Roku3 for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, NHL Gamecenter etc.

To connect all of the TVs will require using WMC with WMC extenders like the Ceton Echo. See: https://www.amazon.com/Ceton-Echo-Wi...rds=ceton+echo Extenders only work with WMC.

To clear up some things about KODI. KODI is an interface program that will allow the orderly access of your existing media like WMC does, but without add ons it will not provide you with any OTA or internet content. You can add Exodus to get internet content (some of which comes from pirate sites, so beware) and you can add NextPVR and OTA tuners for OTA PVR. I think you will not like the NextPVR software very much, though.

Your best bet for OTA PVR is going to be the WMC with either a tuner card or external USB tuners. I use these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 you don't need any additional add ons with WMC for OTA PVR.

I use two so I have 4 tuners and with 4 TVs 4 tuners would be a minimum. You may want to think about a separate PC for 2 groups of 2.

Also you can have KODI and WMC on the same PC. That will give you both capabilities, but only at the connected TV since KODI based software will not be able to be used with the media extenders. A PC at each TV would solve that though.
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To connect all of the TVs will require using WMC with WMC extenders like the Ceton Echo. See: https://www.amazon.com/Ceton-Echo-Wi...rds=ceton+echo Extenders only work with WMC.

To clear up some things about KODI. KODI is an interface program that will allow the orderly access of your existing media like WMC does, but without add ons it will not provide you with any OTA or internet content. You can add Exodus to get internet content (some of which comes from pirate sites, so beware) and you can add NextPVR and OTA tuners for OTA PVR. I think you will not like the NextPVR software very much, though.

Your best bet for OTA PVR is going to be the WMC with either a tuner card or external USB tuners. I use these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 you don't need any additional add ons with WMC for OTA PVR.

I use two so I have 4 tuners and with 4 TVs 4 tuners would be a minimum. You may want to think about a separate PC for 2 groups of 2.

Also you can have KODI and WMC on the same PC. That will give you both capabilities, but only at the connected TV since KODI based software will not be able to be used with the media extenders. A PC at each TV would solve that though.
Thanks for explaining your setup.

I've been rethinking my idea. Thinking an OTA antenna and a FTA PVR with the existing Roku box for our main TV. Could even forget the PVR by using the network apps on Roku to time-shift our favorite network shows and stream other networks like FNC from an old tablet.

As for the two sets upstairs, which we use infrequently, one already has a Roku stick and we could add one to the second TV.

Any thoughts?

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It seems that there is a crackdown on the use of Exodus and other addons from pirate sites. From troypoint.com email sent to me:

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There is a story going around that Dish Network has filed a lawsuit against TV Addons and ZemTV. You may have noticed that some Kodi addons are not working properly anymore or aren't available at all.

Long story short...most Kodi addons that provide live television streams have been taken down and I feel that this is due to the legal pressures from various media outlets such as Dish Network.

Phoenix is one of those addons that has been missing and the creator has publicly stated that they are done. There are others as well.

What does this mean for Kodi? I have been watching this cat and mouse game for the past ten years and whenever something disappears such as Phoenix, another one is created to take its place.

These media and broadcast corporations just don't get it and they need to construct an affordable business model that will cater to the masses, not just those who are willing to pay the crazy fees.

There is no doubt that the pressure will increase due to the unwanted media attention for these 3rd party Kodi addons. We may see some other popular addons go down within the next couple of weeks.

It is important to have multiple options available such as Terrarium TV and you will see me focusing on some other cool technologies over the coming weeks and months.
So if you use KODI/Exodus it you may need to add VPN or look for some other software, or both. I've noticed that most sources are not working in Exodus. Just another reason why to have OTA and streaming options in addition to Kodi. I have a Firestick (with Kodi/Exodus added) and Windows Media Center OTA DVR on a PC so I also have Netflix, Amazon Prime and youtube plus any other PC based streaming available like sling, hulu, etc.
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