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Old 01-06-2011, 08:58 AM   #1
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Hey all!

First off, please forgive my n00b-ness.

I'm trying to plug in an antenna that I have used in the past to my Samsung HDTV. (It is a Philips antenna)
Attached are pics of the antenna and the back panel of the tv I am dealing with.

I have the antenna plugged into the Air port, but I am receiving nothing. The screen shows weak or no signals.. which is usually the default message anyway..

Is it possible that I have ZERO signal? I have used the same antenna on the same tv in the past few months but in a different location.

Any help, even "you're SOL" would be helpful! Thanks!!

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Old 01-06-2011, 09:30 AM   #2
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That is not an antenna - it is a cereal box.

To start with - let's have a full address for the situation - along with the location - north, south, east or west - inside of the building where this box is located.

My guess is that the building materials inside your home is opaque to television signals and that in the past - the signals you wished to receive were on the same side as the television you were using and that it might have been near a window in the direction you needed to receive those signals and now that you have moved your antenna' you get little or no reception anymore.

If you figured out the wave lengths for each channel you desired to watch, bought a simple set of rabbit ears antenna - with a transformer to convert the 75 ohm to 300 ohm and used a tape rule - you could move your rabbit ears antenna closer to a window in the direction you desired to receive from and could tune the antenna by adjusting the lengths of the rods on the antenna to the proper wave length and could probably get some television - or you could invest in a outdoor antenna and point it in the proper direction.

Your choice.
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:39 AM   #3
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once again, I = n00b
If my bro was awake and it was a weekend, I'd call and bug him.

Cereal box? I have no idea what you are talking about bc it's a Philips antenna. If you want to insult my equipment, don't respond bc that's all I have and it's also pretty condescending and rude.
I'm telling you I'm a moron, no need for insults.

I'm in Philadelphia, a few blocks away from the art museum. I believe I'm on the North West side of my building on the 2nd floor.

When I used it previously I was on the first floor of the building about 20 miles away.. if that makes sense and I got all the channels.

and I have no idea what you said lol, pretend I'm your grandma or a 7 year old bc when I say n00b/moron, I'm not joking lol.



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That is not an antenna - it is a cereal box.

To start with - let's have a full address for the situation - along with the location - north, south, east or west - inside of the building where this box is located.

My guess is that the building materials inside your home is opaque to television signals and that in the past - the signals you wished to receive were on the same side as the television you were using and that it might have been near a window in the direction you needed to receive those signals and now that you have moved your antenna' you get little or no reception anymore.

If you figured out the wave lengths for each channel you desired to watch, bought a simple set of rabbit ears antenna - with a transformer to convert the 75 ohm to 300 ohm and used a tape rule - you could move your rabbit ears antenna closer to a window in the direction you desired to receive from and could tune the antenna by adjusting the lengths of the rods on the antenna to the proper wave length and could probably get some television - or you could invest in a outdoor antenna and point it in the proper direction.

Your choice.
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:20 AM   #4
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Don't be put off by JB, he is WAAAAY better than you, just ask him.

The antenna you are showing is not very good (AKA a cereal box) so don't expect good results from it.

In order for us to help you find an appropriate antenna, we need your address and any other "unusual" conditions about your house (steel siding, metal roof, foil backed insulation). Don't worry about stalkers or someone from this site coming to your house because of the address, if someone wanted to find you, they would.

It may simply be that the new place is being blocked by something.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:26 PM   #5
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This is almost like asking if the TV is plugged in, but I have to ask anyway. Did you set the TV to use the antenna for input rather than cable? My first HD TV was a Sony, that was set to use cable as the default setting. I got no signals. I eventually worked my way through the menus where I found the place to change the input to "antenna". Then I got a $#&tload full of stations.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:48 PM   #6
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Jeff is on the right track.

This is probably a problem with the way you're scanning your channels. Or else your TV might not have an ATSC tuner

Two of my friends have older HDTVs with a jack in the back labeled DTV. It was only with further investigation that we confirmed there is no ATSC (digital) tuner inside the TV. These particular TVs were sold with two sub-models - one with the DTV capability and the other with NTSC-only. Both TVs look identical and both TVs had two cable coax jacks. One was non-functional, however.

Can you please post the exact make and model number of your TV? Take the model number from the back of the TV - not from the box or the manual.

Sorry to say, your antenna is pretty terrible. But it is wrong to call it a cereal box. That being said, even a paperclip in downtown Phili is going to get something. Your antenna is around that good - maybe a bit better. Cereal box - no -- paperlip - yes. :>)

So if your TV has an ATSC tuner and if you ran the scan properly, you should be getting at least one station.

Search for an Antennas Direct Clearstream 2 or DB4. Or Channel Master 4221hd. None of these cost significantly more than your...ahem...Philips antenna. (We are antenna geeks. You must take your lumps!) Friendly joke.
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Two other things to consider:

Your antenna, a Philips SDV2710, is un-amplified. This is a good thing, actually amplified antennas that close to the signal sources tend to be the cause of many different kinds of reception headaches.

The antenna as pictured is WAYYY too close to the TV set, which itself radiates more than enough radio-frequency energy to interfere with the television signals you wish to receive. You might want to get a 6- to 12-foot coax cable and a female-to-female coax connector to extend the antenna's cable so that you can 1) move the antenna a few feet away from the TV and 2) check out different locations in the room for better reception.

Try to cut JB a little slack: He has great difficulty understanding why every resident of every urban multi-family building can't put up a monstrously large outdoor antenna...
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:47 PM   #8
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Hi and welcome.

Is the remote pictured what you use for the TV? My Samsung has a completely different remote. Right under the Power button there is a button labeled Antenna. This switches between cable and the antenna.

You need to go to the Channel menu and select Auto Program. Or if you already have some channels working you can go to Add/Delete.

Once a few channels are working you can go to signal strength and use that to V E R Y S L O W L Y reorient your antenna for the best signal.


I have a Samsung that is close to the same generation. The tuner is fairly good but not awesome. The picture on the high def channels can be very good with this set.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:16 AM   #9
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That's EXACTLY what I needed to do lol!
I never switched it back to Air and I needed to Auto-Program again, d'oh!
THANK YOU!!
Now it works fine, just like it used to!



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Hi and welcome.

Is the remote pictured what you use for the TV? My Samsung has a completely different remote. Right under the Power button there is a button labeled Antenna. This switches between cable and the antenna.

You need to go to the Channel menu and select Auto Program. Or if you already have some channels working you can go to Add/Delete.

Once a few channels are working you can go to signal strength and use that to V E R Y S L O W L Y reorient your antenna for the best signal.


I have a Samsung that is close to the same generation. The tuner is fairly good but not awesome. The picture on the high def channels can be very good with this set.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:18 AM   #10
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THAT is EXACTLY what I did wrong lol!
Thanks Jeff for getting us on the right track, I hope my n00b-ness is at least amusing. :-)

Thanks guys!!



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This is almost like asking if the TV is plugged in, but I have to ask anyway. Did you set the TV to use the antenna for input rather than cable? My first HD TV was a Sony, that was set to use cable as the default setting. I got no signals. I eventually worked my way through the menus where I found the place to change the input to "antenna". Then I got a $#&tload full of stations.
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THAT is EXACTLY what I did wrong lol!
Thanks Jeff for getting us on the right track, I hope my n00b-ness is at least amusing. :-)

Thanks guys!!
Been there, done that I forgot, but the Sony scan was actually the 2nd time I encountered that mistake. A while back, I had an older Mits. set that I had in the shop for an unrelated problem. When I got it back, it no longer received any UHF channels. I took it back to the shop, where the tech replaced the UHF tuner. When it still didn't work, he discovered that the antenna/cable button on the set had been changed to "cable". He was rather upset, but I wasn't the one that changed it.
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Ok OK, all thanks to Jeff who got to the right basic noobie mistake by asking, "This is almost like asking if the TV is plugged in, but I have to ask anyway. Did you set the TV to use the antenna for input rather than cable?" IMHO, a shot in the dark that proved to be correct this one time.

But should this forum self congratulate itself and say, Oh Magoo, we have done it again, or should we say instead say, we have just provided step one of our larger multi step responsibility?

Because JBAntenna man is also right, that antenna is a cereal box and nothing more.

And therefor the real question is and remains, how many local channels can the cereal box antenna deliver? How many more local stations might be delivered by a better indoor antenna for not much more money, and in short, where is the best bang for the buck compromise at.
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:14 AM   #13
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Ok OK, all thanks to Jeff who got to the right basic noobie mistake by asking, "This is almost like asking if the TV is plugged in, but I have to ask anyway. Did you set the TV to use the antenna for input rather than cable?" IMHO, a shot in the dark that proved to be correct this one time.

But should this forum self congratulate itself and say, Oh Magoo, we have done it again, or should we say instead say, we have just provided step one of our larger multi step responsibility?

Because JBAntenna man is also right, that antenna is a cereal box and nothing more.

And therefor the real question is and remains, how many local channels can the cereal box antenna deliver? How many more local stations might be delivered by a better indoor antenna for not much more money, and in short, where is the best bang for the buck compromise at.
Right on the money.
nckct4 - Could you please give us a list?
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM   #14
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Thanks to all of the information provided I was able to get my antenna to work without a HUGE hassle! I did not know to switch it from cable to antenna, I did that and it still wouldn't work. So after further reading the posts on this forum it said to select auto program and voila I now have the channels I was wanting!!! I also have a cheapo Phillips antenna but I'm happy
Just wanted to say thanks guys for the info!!!
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