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Old 10-11-2010, 06:28 AM   #1
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Hi all.

I noticed a bunch of old threads here about bad reception on CBS 2 Chicago. For as long as I can remember, even back in the old days of NTSC regular analog, CBS 2 has always been a basket case. Snowy back then, and now I just can't get it on my HD Hauppauge 2250 card. It is now broadcasting on 12.1 STILL VHF. They just don't get it.

Anyway, does anybody have any recommendations on how to get this Baby Channel? My zip is 60534. I just bought a VBOX Cat's Eye 3560 USB HDTV Tuner, which will arrive shortly. It is known for sensitivity. I am using this antenna indoors, on the second floor, aimed at the station. If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate it. I tried a channelmaster amplifier, with a few DB of gain, and it doesn't help. The wire is quad shield RG-6.

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CHANNEL MASTER 8-BAY BOW-TIE HDTV UHF ANTENNA - 4228HD
CHANNEL MASTER Channel Master's 4228HD antenna can receive digital and analog over-the-air TV signals in the UHF band and high VHF band (after the Feb. 2009 transition, nearly all digital TV signals will be in the UHF or high-VHF bands). The 4228HD is optimized for "deep-fringe" reception of HDTV it's one of the highest-gain antennas available.
This antenna features a highly directional design that will provide best results when most or all of the desired stations are transmitting from the same location. Also, if you'd like to pull in signals from different areas, consider a rotor to aim your antenna in the right direction.
The 4228HD is classified as a Large Directional antenna. Its space-efficient design is suitable for roof and attic installations (mast recommended).
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They just don't get it.

Anyway, does anybody have any recommendations on how to get this Baby Channel? The 4228HD is classified as a Large Directional antenna.
It's not channel 2's problem, it's yours. Yes, channel 2 is on VHF, but you bought a UHF antenna.
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I thought the 4228 can still pull some upper band VHF channels with decent results. Since he is only 10 miles away from transmitter, I would figure "decent" should do. I am only about 7 or so miles SW of the OP in Willow Springs (about 17 miles away of trans) and had issues with dropouts from time to time with CBS with my little Square Shooter. But since they went to 12, solid now.

Might want to try some rabbit ears for shits and grins..
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How many of these old posts did you read?

Someone needs to sue the school district where this person went to school - they could get millions.
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I thought the 4228 can still pull some upper band VHF channels with decent results.
If that were true there wouldn't be a problem.
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It's not channel 2's problem, it's yours. Yes, channel 2 is on VHF, but you bought a UHF antenna.
No. Not quite. The frequency response/gain of this antenna should have no problem with 12.1 VHF. "Some upper band VHF" I have another roof antenna which is 8' UHF/VHF used indoors, and it will not pull it in either.
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How many of these old posts did you read?

Someone needs to sue the school district where this person went to school - they could get millions.
Pay no attention to JB dick head.. He was gang raped with a small indoor antenna when he was a lad, and now takes it out on posters on this site.. In true dick head fashion.
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Pay no attention to JB dick head.. He was gang raped with a small indoor antenna when he was a lad, and now takes it out on posters on this site.. In true dick head fashion.
Yes you are right about him. He is certainly a useless DICK HEAD. LOL
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"Some upper band VHF"
I don't believe the marketing hype. Here are the measurements.

http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/TemporaryPage.html

4 db of gain on VHF is far less than the 12 db gain that the 4228 HD has on UHF.

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My in-laws from 70 miles out are using a YA-1713 for CBS and it comes in great.

Others I know in Aurora are using UHF/VHF combos with no problems.

Ever since the digital switchover CBS has been one of the easier Chicago stations to get on a regular basis.

I know none of these antennas would solve your problem. I point it out to say I don't think the 4228 is going to get the job done for CBS. I know hdtvprimer had some mods you could do to get better VHF from this antenna. I don't know if it works, however.

Have you tried changing the direction/angle of the antenna while tuning in CBS? In my in-laws case they are pointing VHF about 15 degrees to the east of Chicago to pull in CBS. Again, because of where they are shooting from, it is a different situation. But it is something to try.
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