High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource

Go Back   High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource > Local HDTV Info & Reception > Local HDTV Info and Reception
Rules HDTV Forum Gallery LINK TO US! RSS - High Def Forum AddThis Feed Button AddThis Social Bookmark Button Groups

Local HDTV Info and Reception Learn about your local HDTV stations, availability, reception issues, OTA antennas and any other local issues. RSS - Local HDTV Info and Reception

Which TV manufactures make TVs that will work on an Antenna?

Reply
AddThis Social Bookmark Button
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-23-2010, 10:15 AM   #1
High Definition is the definition of life.
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 77
Default Which TV manufactures make TVs that will work on an Antenna?

Some TV manufactures assume everyone is on cable and have a strong signal so to save money the TV has no preamp and reception is terrable with an antenna. I need a list of manufactures that are making TVs that get excellent reception with an antenna???
Gary350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2010, 10:51 AM   #2
High Definition is the definition of life.
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 165
Default

I'm happy with the 32" Samsung and Sony TV's that I just purchased. Both have good tuners for receiving over the air signals.
Billiam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2010, 11:24 AM   #3
What is HD?
 

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 2
Default

To the best of my knowledge that list does not exist. It's a shame but it does not exist.

I think that the best plan is to figure out which stations you hope to get and then find a retailer with easy return terms. BestBuy claims to have either a seven day or thirty day, no questions return policy. So if you don't get the stations that you had planned for, then exchange or return the set.

HDTV/ATSC tuners run in generations determined by their tuner chip sets. As these tuner chips are getting better every month, therefore when you are picking out a set it is a good idea to walk away from 'close-out' priced sets. If you work at it (e-mail), the manufacturer will probably divulge the chip that they are using in a particular model number. In my experience, they will not give you any other metrics of the ATSC tuner's performance. So the $300, 37 inch set that I bought in November has a much better tuner than the $750, 37 inch LG that I bought two plus years ago.

Have you run a TV Fool for your location?

Last edited by Steve_Weggus; 07-23-2010 at 11:28 AM.
Steve_Weggus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2010, 11:46 AM   #4
High Definition is the definition of life.
 

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 338
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary350 View Post
Some TV manufactures assume everyone is on cable and have a strong signal so to save money the TV has no preamp and reception is terrable with an antenna. I need a list of manufactures that are making TVs that get excellent reception with an antenna???
I would add Sanyo & Sharp to the list. Mine do a good job for me, but I have no idea if they have a "preamp".

BTW, shouldn't you say "I need a list of manufacturers making TVs that get excellent reception with a inadequate antenna, or in areas with a weak signal?"
__________________
Sharp LC42D65U
Sharp BD-HP21U
Sanyo DP32647 LCD
Toshiba HD-A2
Potluck 5.1 surround
DB-8 & YA 1713
CM7777 & CM3043
60+ miles out


What, me worry?
rinardman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2010, 06:21 PM   #5
High Definition is the definition of life.
 
Sam Spastic's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Just south of Normal
Posts: 144
Default

Someone at work said that most of the new TVs don't even have an F connector. I replied that if they didn't have an F connector then they were NOT TVs but were monitors.

That may be where the manufactures and retailers are headed.

I will be looking for a new set next spring. My main criteria will be how the program guide works. If I set a reminder or timer I want the channel to change. Putting a dialog box in my face and waiting for input is not acceptable. Who wants to record an hour of the wrong channel.

I have 4 antennas with JoinTennas, preamps, and a combiner to get 12 stations (11 reliably) with 22 channels. So scan operation or channel add is not a big concern. All sets get or won't get the same stations. So tuner generation does not "seem" to make any difference.

Lately tho I have found a signal on RF channel 55 that is close to overloading. There is nothing indicated on any of the sets! Maybe it is the new cell phone or wireless broadband stuff.
Sam Spastic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 03:47 PM   #6
High Definition is the definition of life.
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 253
Default

UHF 55 is Qualcomm's MediaFlo service.
projectsho89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 06:35 PM   #7
High Definition is the definition of life.
 

Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 177
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary350 View Post
Some TV manufactures assume everyone is on cable
Reception (tuner sensitivity) is certainly one issue, but so is channel "saving." Many new TVs do not allow you to scan for channels multiple times and add new channels without losing the previous ones. So, if you have dual antennas with an A/B switch, or even just a rotator, you are out of luck. No good way to get all the channels registered in one scan. I have three antennas with an A/B/C switch AND two rotators.

Also, I doubt someone's good experience with any particular name brand means anything. Specific model #, yes. I've got two new Sansui TVs here. The first one I bought, a 19" has the best digital tuner I've ever used. So good, it led me to buy the second Sansui, a 26" model. IT has a terrible tuner, an absolute piece of junk. The good 19" is HDLCDVD195 and the rotten 26" is model HDLCDVD265A.

Unless someone has compared several TVs on the same antenna line, the sensitivity claims won't be very helpful. I ran a test in northern Michigan a few weeks ago with 6 different TVS on the same line. The 19" Sansui I mentioned beat them all (got two extra channels that none of the others could. Also has a great channel memory system. The worst I tested was a Sceptre 19" model X195 and a 19" Mitsubishi (sorry, no model #).

At home, our 42" LCD Syntax Brillian Olevia 242T has a great tuner as far as sensitivity goes, but a lousy channel memory system.

It seems to me that lately, name brand means nothing, since even good companies with great reputations make good and bad stuff. That goes with TVs, chain saws, and cars (e.g. Toyotas?).

When I bought the second Sanusui, it even looked the same as the smaller (good) one. I was very suprised to find out how different it is.
jdemaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 07:17 PM   #8
High Definition is the definition of life.
 

Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 177
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve_Weggus View Post
HDTV/ATSC tuners run in generations determined by their tuner chip sets. As these tuner chips are getting better every month . . .
I do not believe it. Different generations of chips, yes that makes sense. Always better as they get newer? That one I doubt. Not for all people in all situations. Also, since I'm not an electronics tech with up-to-date info, I don't know how much that one tuner chip controls. Channel lock- on, noise rejection, sensitivity, etc. ?? Are you saying that one chip controls all of that, and that there is only one model or price-level of that tuner-chip at a time - with no "low end" and "high end" chip available contemperaneously? That's not rhetorical, I honestly don't have any idea.

I just got done testing out my in-laws new Samsung and the tuner is not as good as my two-year old Sansui, or the tuner in one of my Chinese converter-boxes. To me, getting "better" would mean making tuners as sensitive as possible for use with weak signals. I doubt that is happening from what I've been seeing with new TVs on antenna systems in fringe areas.
jdemaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Go Back   High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource > Local HDTV Info & Reception > Local HDTV Info and Reception
AddThis Social Bookmark Button
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads to Which TV manufactures make TVs that will work on an Antenna?
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pros and Cons of Upconverting...??? pastorsoh Direct-View (tube) TVs 7 01-24-2005 10:18 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:37 AM.


Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright ©2004 - 2008, High Def Forum