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Old 12-10-2009, 09:38 PM   #1
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I live in the Orlando area. I have tried both the Channel Master Stealth and the Antennas Direct C2 antenna and have returned both of them because of horrible results.

Can anyone out there recommend an omni directional HD antenna that provides excellent LONG RANGE UHF and VHF reception for capturing Free Over the Air signals in the Orlando area?

My objective is to get ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and PBS channels only using a single exterior Omni Directional HD antenna. Neither of the last two antennas I tried out were able to capture all of these channels successfully. If I got ABC, the other networks would fall out of reception range. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:04 AM   #2
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Your zip code would be helpful, but NBC is broadcasting on VHF 11, so you will need a VHF. The rest of the channels are broadcasting on UHF. Orlando stations are using some decent steel (towers of over 1,600 feet) so reception should be good. I would recommend an outside antenna, or at least one in the attic. Don't get an antenna that sits in the house. Send us your Zip Code for more information.
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:30 AM   #3
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The reason why you are having poor results is due to the fact that in order to get good reception, you will need a good UHF / VHF antenna and not just a omnidirectional antenna.

You will also need to point that antenna in the proper direction and if there is anything 3 or more stories between you and the transmit antenna' - it will not receive that signal. So basically, if you are a apartment dweller - you will not get reception if you live on the wrong side of the building. Or if you live next to a large building, the building will block your signal.

Please post a co ordinate - for your location and not just part of a TV fool report. The co ordinates are located next to the antenna height desired in the report.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:44 AM   #4
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There is NO SUCH THING as a LONG RANGE omni-directional antenna. In general, an omni might be okay for 10 miles as long as you don't have multi-path. An omni receives equally poorly in all directions.

If your location is in the "middle" of the towers (unlikely for the Orlando area since the towers are all over towards Titusville), then your best bet is a "multi-directional" antenna with features based on your particular location.

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Old 12-11-2009, 11:15 AM   #5
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Your zip code would be helpful, but NBC is broadcasting on VHF 11, so you will need a VHF. The rest of the channels are broadcasting on UHF. Orlando stations are using some decent steel (towers of over 1,600 feet) so reception should be good. I would recommend an outside antenna, or at least one in the attic. Don't get an antenna that sits in the house. Send us your Zip Code for more information.

Thanks to all for their post. Wally my zip code is 32808. I can say as a fact that NBC (known as WESH here in Orlando) is the worst station for successful reception. At first this did not make sense to me because the WESH TV station is right next to the I4 highway some 5 miles away from my house. It is only after some research that I found out the WESH TV broadcast towers are actually located in Bithlo, which is close to 40 miles away from my house. I'm sure the fact that WESH TV broadcasts on VHF 11 does not help either.

From what I gather from both posts I need a UHF / VHF antenna and not just a omnidirectional antenna. Isn't there an antenna for sale in the market that is capable of VHF 11 / UHF reception and omnidirectional all in one device?

Currently I am researching the TERK FDTVO flat digital omni-directional outdoor antenna. Its product description mentions that it supports all digital and analog frequencies including VHF and UHF. (Sorry, I can't post a link to this TERK antenna model because this forum won't let me post a link until I make 5 posts). Is this antenna a good option to consider?

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There is NO SUCH THING as a LONG RANGE omni-directional antenna. In general, an omni might be okay for 10 miles as long as you don't have multi-path. An omni receives equally poorly in all directions.

If your location is in the "middle" of the towers (unlikely for the Orlando area since the towers are all over towards Titusville), then your best bet is a "multi-directional" antenna with features based on your particular location.

Notice a pattern in the responses? We need your exact location to provide accurate advice.
Projectsho89,
Thanks for the post. You mention that, "There is NO SUCH THING as a LONG RANGE omni-directional antenna". I'm a newbie to this forum and antennas as well. I was under the impression that "Omnidirecitonal" and "Multi-Directional" was interchangeable terminology. My goal is to buy an antenna that requires no exact positioning to get the best reception. This is why I was using the term "Omnidirectional". As for LONG RANGE. I was using this terminology because I need an antenna that can get reception from Bithlo. Any help you can provide as to choosing the best antenna for my sitiuation will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:21 PM   #7
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My zip code is 32808. From what I gather from both posts I need a UHF / VHF antenna and not just a omnidirectional antenna.
Almost all of your stations are between 84 and 93 degrees.

An Antennacraft HBU-22 or Winegard HD7694P would work fine for all but ION and a handful of low power stations.
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I was under the impression that "Omnidirecitonal" and "Multi-Directional" was interchangeable terminology.
A "Multi-Directional" antenna usually refers to one that is generous with its aiming characteristics. Since you mention you tried the C2 (which would have been expected to be an excellent choice for all except WESH), here's the polar plot for it:

You can see that it has a very generous front lobe meaning that the loops should be pointed towards the transmitter.

I couldn't find anything resembling performance data for the CM3010.

From the zip code you gave, you're around 20-25 miles from the Biltho antenna farm. The HBU22 should do fine as TG suggested.

Do not use an amplified antenna as it will likely overload from several low power stations in your back yard.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:23 PM   #9
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Zip Codes are practically worthless in a urban zone due to the fact that we cannot look at the FM interference in your area.

Things such as cop shops, radio stations, cell towers, power plants - you name it - it will interfere with your signal.

As I predicted gloom and doom for people living in Florida 7 months ago, when signals were strong and all you needed was a good set of rabbit ears to pick up the VHF, now that the Tropo is gone, and you can't even get a whif of a signal 40 miles away with anything less than a adequate sized antenna, people will be back asking - why doesn't my antenna work?

The real answer is to use a large enough antenna that it will receive as much signal as possible. I would suggest a Winegard 7698P and no pre amplifier then to use a smaller antenna, have poor results and then have to use a pre amplifier to compensate for a lack of antenna.

The job of a RF Engineer is to protect what little signal you have by designing a set up that will work in all weather conditions and all times of the year and not just suggest the smallest / cheapest antenna they think will work for your situation.

I would honestly look at the HBU 22 but I wouldn't and I couldn't guarantee that it would work for your situation without a street level address. No address, no advice!

One thing that no one asked is what height you wished to mount this antenna. I guess everyone is slipping in the holiday spirit and is forgetting the basic's of reception again.
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Old 09-28-2015, 04:53 AM   #10
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Hello i am over on neptune rd and looking to set up a single antenna to drive several drops in the house. The old antenna is 35 years old. I have done thousands of installs in Italy. Just playing around with some wire i am able to pick up everything but wesh 2.Are they on ch 11 vhf or channel 2 vhf? also what antenna is the best, Winegard or something else. This old antenna is an old stile 300 ohm. Talpk about old.
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Old 09-28-2015, 05:17 AM   #11
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WESH transmits on VHF 11.

Most all antennas are 300 ohm still, they just include the matching transformer to supply a 75 ohm coax connection.
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Hi, Ralph:

Here is a tvfool report for your estimated location:

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...8e038a302973da

Your signals are very strong, so you shouldn't need a preamp if there are no trees or other buildings in the signal path. I suggest a Winegard HD7694P antenna, aimed at 47 degrees magnetic.

If the signals get too weak for two TVs, replace the splitter with a Channel Master 3412.

ION will be off to the side of the antenna, but since it is your strongest signal you should get it OK.

The coax shield should be grounded with a grounding block that is connected to the house electrical system ground with 10 gauge copper wire for electrical safety and to reject interference. For further compliance with the electrical code (NEC), the mast should also be grounded in a similar manner to drain any buildup of static charge, but the system will not survive a direct strike.



Your FM signals aren't very strong, so you might not need an FM trap to protect NBC from interference. See attachment. If I'm wrong:
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...-FM-88-/33-341
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:30 PM   #13
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Looking over the new antenna It is sure different that Italy. They use a high power amp with about 36 db gain then they split the signal 5 or six ways to all the tv drops in the house in italy.The antennas here combine UHF as well as Vhf. All horz. Pol. It was so messed up there from naples they transmitted all vert pol.30 miles away in caserta they used the same freq on horz pol. I will look at channel 11 wesh 2 as a guide as i align my mew antenna.
Just got my old field strength meter out of the box. Glad i kept it.
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Hello forgot to update. Well got the antenna up and its working like a champ. Get all the channels and all 50 plus stations. Have to admit that the USA digital platform looks so good. Now i need to run the line to several spots and i have the amp already and will cut back on century link and Just keep the internet. Almost everything on the planet even Italian tv can e found for free on the net.
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:37 PM   #15
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Hi all,
I'm looking for some one that can install an OTA. At the moment I have an antenna on each of my tvs and reception is not that good in some rooms so I thought of installing one antenna to feed all my tvs.
I'm also looking for suggestions on an antenna that would have a good coverage. I live in Longwood, Wekiva area 32779.
Thanks for any help!!!
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