Recording HD from Satellite to PC

dss_cottage · 12-31-2012, 02:42 PM

I would like to record HD from my satellite receiver on my PC for editing and archiving. (using component cable to get around HDCP)

I have a BellTV 9242 with an external HD.

My computer is:
Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 (2.4 Ghz)
Radeon X1950 graphics board

The computer is a 25' cable run from the TV.

I've been researching a lot and the Hauppauge Colossus seems to be the logical choice. However, I've read a lot of poor reviews on this board as well as the Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR. (computer lock-ups, recordings stop unexpectedly, sound sync problems, overheating, etc.)

If I buy the Colossus, I'll have to do a fair bit of construction work to run the cables from the sat receiver to the PC (component and optical). Therefore, I'd like to make fairly sure that it will work reasonably well before I pick up my tools.

Can anyone give me some feedback on this system from their personal experience?

...or is there a better solution?

**rbinck** · 12-31-2012, 02:55 PM

I have used the 1212 for many years with excellent results. What seems to be the problem many people have with the 1212 is they connect to a weak PC or there is a lot of background stuff running. I had a few problems such as you described until I got a faster PC. Then all of those problems went away. Currently I am using a i5 laptop to record with. That allows me to take the 1212 and laptop to the source box very easily. Sometimes I will go to my son's or daughter's house and connect to their DVR. If you have a good laptop that may be an idea. Your PC should be good to go if it does not have a bunch of other things going on.

Chris Gerhard · 01-01-2013, 10:29 AM

If there is software for direct transfer of recordings to PC, that would sure beat the digital>analog>digital string of conversions required with that process using component video. I just use TiVo desktop for my OTA recordings and I know there are third party TiVo software programs for transfer of protected recordings that will result from some satellite or cable channels. I don't know if other DVRs have that kind of software available however.

dss_cottage · 01-01-2013, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbinck

I have used the 1212 for many years with excellent results. What seems to be the problem many people have with the 1212 is they connect to a weak PC or there is a lot of background stuff running. I had a few problems such as you described until I got a faster PC. Then all of those problems went away. Currently I am using a i5 laptop to record with. That allows me to take the 1212 and laptop to the source box very easily. Sometimes I will go to my son's or daughter's house and connect to their DVR. If you have a good laptop that may be an idea. Your PC should be good to go if it does not have a bunch of other things going on.

Thank-you for your input rbinck,
I've also read the review that you posted and based on your experience, I've placed my order for the Hauppauge 1212 as well as an active USB extension cable.

Looking forward to successful recording!

Thanks again

dss_cottage · 01-15-2013, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbinck

I have used the 1212 for many years with excellent results. What seems to be the problem many people have with the 1212 is they connect to a weak PC or there is a lot of background stuff running. I had a few problems such as you described until I got a faster PC. Then all of those problems went away. Currently I am using a i5 laptop to record with. That allows me to take the 1212 and laptop to the source box very easily. Sometimes I will go to my son's or daughter's house and connect to their DVR. If you have a good laptop that may be an idea. Your PC should be good to go if it does not have a bunch of other things going on.

rbinck,

Can I ask you for one more bit of advice.

I've received my 1212 but am having difficulty.

My computer is a 25' cable run from my satellite receiver. I connected it using two 15' active USB cables as extensions (I ordered a 25' cable but they sent the wrong one). Using these cables, the Hauppauge drivers wouldn't install on the computer. I moved the 1212 to the computer and used only the short USB cable that came with the 1212 and that works. I also tried the same thing using only one 15" active USB extension but that failed too.

Therefore, my question...
Do you have any recommendation regarding the type of USB extension cable that might work?

**rbinck** · 01-15-2013, 07:52 PM

No, maybe someone else will have some suggestions.

dss_cottage · 01-16-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbinck

No, maybe someone else will have some suggestions.

Thanks again rbinck,

I've continued to research and look for alternatives. One possibility is to place the 1212 at my computer and run component and SPDIF cables to from the sat receiver to the PC. However, cable length is still the issue.

One of the gems that I found was another post from you. (You are a very busy and helpful guy!)
I can't post the url until I have 5 posts?????

In that post you recommend RG6 cable for very long component cable runs. However, the cost of a 25' Belden 7710A would be $177. This is getting a little pricey.

What is your opinion on a 25" standard component cable?

**rbinck** · 01-16-2013, 07:22 PM

I think this one would work:
25ft 22AWG 5-RCA COMPONENT Video/Audio Coaxial CABLE (RG-59/U) - Black

monoprice.com has other options at affordable prices.

Also I was talking about 3 runs of regular rg6 like is used for cable tv with RCA ends available at monoprice as well.

dss_cottage · 01-17-2013, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbinck

I think this one would work:

monoprice has other options at affordable prices.

Also I was talking about 3 runs of regular rg6 like is used for cable tv with RCA ends available at monoprice as well.

Thanks again rbinck,

The cables are ordered. I'll post back with my results.

**rbinck** · 01-17-2013, 06:00 PM

Please do.

dss_cottage · 01-22-2013, 03:23 PM

Reporting the results of my Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR installation...

I attempted to install the 1212 at my AV cabinet and run a long USB cable. This didn't work.

I purchased 25' component and 25' SPIDF cables and located the 1212 at my computer and it works like a charm.

Many, many thanks to rbinck for your assistance. You are a star!

**rbinck** · 01-22-2013, 07:21 PM

Now that you have it going, you might want to look into getting the VideoReDo V4 h.254 editing software.

dss_cottage · 01-23-2013, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbinck

Now that you have it going, you might want to look into getting the VideoReDo V4 h.254 editing software.

Thanks again rbinck,

I'll have a look at it!

dss_cottage · 02-13-2013, 03:54 PM

I've finally recorded a video using the HDPVR and editing it in VideoReDo.

It worked perfectly.

Even though I have been editing video for several years, I had never come across VideoReDo. I tried it and found it to be better than anything I have used so far. It is intuitive and fast. I took a 2 hour PBS music program, edited out the whining for money and produced a clean 1 hour program. After selecting the cuts, VideoReDo produced the output in 2.5 minutes! WOW!

Thank-you again rbinck. Your suggests have been extremely helpful.

**rbinck** · 02-13-2013, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dss_cottage

I've finally recorded a video using the HDPVR and editing it in VideoReDo.

It worked perfectly.

Even though I have been editing video for several years, I had never come across VideoReDo. I tried it and found it to be better than anything I have used so far. It is intuitive and fast. I took a 2 hour PBS music program, edited out the whining for money and produced a clean 1 hour program. After selecting the cuts, VideoReDo produced the output in 2.5 minutes! WOW!

Thank-you again rbinck. Your suggests have been extremely helpful.

I have found it to be very nice for cutting and joining video. It also does a great job at DVD authoring from just about any video format. Format conversion is another thing it excels at in that you can load a mpeg2 video and save it as a h.264/mpeg4 video. Switching between mpeg4 and mpeg2 formats takes some time, but sometimes it is necessary. Glad you found it useful.

12-31-2012, 02:42 PM	#1
dss_cottage Love my HDTV Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 8	Recording HD from Satellite to PC I would like to record HD from my satellite receiver on my PC for editing and archiving. (using component cable to get around HDCP) I have a BellTV 9242 with an external HD. My computer is: Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 (2.4 Ghz) Radeon X1950 graphics board The computer is a 25' cable run from the TV. I've been researching a lot and the Hauppauge Colossus seems to be the logical choice. However, I've read a lot of poor reviews on this board as well as the Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR. (computer lock-ups, recordings stop unexpectedly, sound sync problems, overheating, etc.) If I buy the Colossus, I'll have to do a fair bit of construction work to run the cables from the sat receiver to the PC (component and optical). Therefore, I'd like to make fairly sure that it will work reasonably well before I pick up my tools. Can anyone give me some feedback on this system from their personal experience? ...or is there a better solution?

12-31-2012, 02:55 PM	#2
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,602	I have used the 1212 for many years with excellent results. What seems to be the problem many people have with the 1212 is they connect to a weak PC or there is a lot of background stuff running. I had a few problems such as you described until I got a faster PC. Then all of those problems went away. Currently I am using a i5 laptop to record with. That allows me to take the 1212 and laptop to the source box very easily. Sometimes I will go to my son's or daughter's house and connect to their DVR. If you have a good laptop that may be an idea. Your PC should be good to go if it does not have a bunch of other things going on. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

01-15-2013, 07:52 PM	#6
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,602	No, maybe someone else will have some suggestions. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

01-16-2013, 07:22 PM	#8
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,602	I think this one would work: 25ft 22AWG 5-RCA COMPONENT Video/Audio Coaxial CABLE (RG-59/U) - Black monoprice.com has other options at affordable prices. Also I was talking about 3 runs of regular rg6 like is used for cable tv with RCA ends available at monoprice as well. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

01-17-2013, 06:00 PM	#10
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,602	Please do. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

01-01-2013, 10:29 AM	#3
Chris Gerhard High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,789	If there is software for direct transfer of recordings to PC, that would sure beat the digital>analog>digital string of conversions required with that process using component video. I just use TiVo desktop for my OTA recordings and I know there are third party TiVo software programs for transfer of protected recordings that will result from some satellite or cable channels. I don't know if other DVRs have that kind of software available however.

01-22-2013, 03:23 PM	#11
dss_cottage Love my HDTV Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 8	Installed and Working Reporting the results of my Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR installation... I attempted to install the 1212 at my AV cabinet and run a long USB cable. This didn't work. I purchased 25' component and 25' SPIDF cables and located the 1212 at my computer and it works like a charm. Many, many thanks to rbinck for your assistance. You are a star!

01-22-2013, 07:21 PM	#12
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,602	Now that you have it going, you might want to look into getting the VideoReDo V4 h.254 editing software. dss_cottage likes this. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

02-13-2013, 03:54 PM	#14
dss_cottage Love my HDTV Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 8	Thanks I've finally recorded a video using the HDPVR and editing it in VideoReDo. It worked perfectly. Even though I have been editing video for several years, I had never come across VideoReDo. I tried it and found it to be better than anything I have used so far. It is intuitive and fast. I took a 2 hour PBS music program, edited out the whining for money and produced a clean 1 hour program. After selecting the cuts, VideoReDo produced the output in 2.5 minutes! WOW! Thank-you again rbinck. Your suggests have been extremely helpful.

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