Would You Upgrade to a New Receiver Right Now Just for PLIIz?

awol · 08-27-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD

I wonder when 9.1 compatable will be hitting the market?

Well, if I'm understanding correctly, it's basically already doing it for everything. It's not a new codec, just a new way to process the existing codecs. I kind of see this as being similar to soundfields, something like "Stadium" etc. Especially considering the "height" information is not discrete in the soundtrack itself. This new processing basically just guesses which frequencies should be additional moved to the "Height" speakers.

All of this said, I'm still not sure I understand what the point is.

Guess I'd have to hear it to get it.

Stew4HD · 08-27-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by awol

Well, if I'm understanding correctly, it's basically already doing it for everything. It's not a new codec, just a new way to process the existing codecs. I kind of see this as being similar to soundfields, something like "Stadium" etc. Especially considering the "height" information is not discrete in the soundtrack itself. This new processing basically just guesses which frequencies should be additional moved to the "Height" speakers.

All of this said, I'm still not sure I understand what the point is.

Guess I'd have to hear it to get it.

It's a codec for those that love to watch jets takeoff and land

awol · 08-27-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD

It's a codec for those that love to watch jets takeoff and land

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!

This would make Top Gun totally watchable again!!!!!

[/sarcasm]

Loves2Watch · 08-27-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD

Hmm... don't go showing me that!!! Makes my wallet itch!

I wonder when 9.1 compatable will be hitting the market?

I think the Onkyo TX-SR607 would/could be considered 9.1 -

Stew4HD · 08-27-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

I think the Onkyo TX-SR607 would/could be considered 9.1 -

I hadn't looked that close at the 607 to notice the zone 2 and back were the same connections (damn spring connectors that accept only 16 AWG and smaller, I do know that!).

Loves2Watch · 08-27-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD

I hadn't looked that close at the 607 to notice the zone 2 and back were the same connections (damn spring connectors that accept only 16 AWG and smaller, I do know that!).

You could always shove a banana plug in there...

And that would be Zone 2 or height speakers.

Peter Marlowe · 08-28-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

Again, I suggest that you demo it with several movies and determine if the price of a new receiver is worth it to you. I found it to add much more depth and presence to movie soundtracks I already own and love so it was/is worth the added expense to me. On the other hand, I am an early adopter and don't consider $ too much when finding new technology that is of benefit to me no matter how small an improvement that may be.

You /we have to look at the cost vs. diminishing returns at some point but in this case I believe this technology to be well worth the added expense.

Where do you get the income to purchase all this new gear as soon as it hits market? It's kind of a rhetorical question, and I mean no disrespect by "invading any privacy"; was just curious...

Are you running a 607 currently?

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New Onkyo TX-SR607 and an Oppo BDP-83 would be a killer combo. You would be the envy of everyone who heard/saw it...and all of your neighbors would drool.

...not according to Techlord, who feels my current 605 (and applicable to apparently anyone else who owns one) is a bit misleading in terms of "quality" as it's not "high end"...

Peter Marlowe · 08-28-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD

I hadn't looked that close at the 607 to notice the zone 2 and back were the same connections (damn spring connectors that accept only 16 AWG and smaller, I do know that!).

The biggest complaint of reviewers so far who have been covering the 607 and living with it for awhile has been these spring loading clips and the narrow, cheap wire they accept -- they're troublesome to say the least.

JMS · 08-28-2009, 01:02 PM

Here's the Butterworth review Peter mentioned in an earlier post.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/fea...logic-iiz.html

To answer the original question: Since I never went 6/7.1 in my system, you can guess how soon I may be going for PL IIz.

You do have to hand it to Onkyo for being on the cutting edge in recent times.

Peter Marlowe · 08-28-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JMS

Here's the Butterworth review Peter mentioned in an earlier post.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/fea...logic-iiz.html

Indeed; I am uncertain, as I said, if he gives the PLIIz thumbs up or down, but I know he continues to refer to the 607's "cheap price tag" and its status in the "cheaper receiver lines" and such, citing excitement that a product at this price point puts out such impressive sound.

As I stated in another thread, I don't think these receivers are necessarily "low end;" there are models that come before this one in the company's lineup. I would consider the 607 "midrange" on the low side of midrange.

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To answer the original question: Since I never went 6/7.1 in my system, you can guess how soon I may be going for PL IIz.

You do have to hand it to Onkyo for being on the cutting edge in recent times.

Here's a company that continues to offer affordable gear with all the latest bells and whistles...

You're still running 5.1? Me too, for space constraints...

Loves2Watch · 08-28-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Marlowe

Where do you get the income to purchase all this new gear as soon as it hits market? It's kind of a rhetorical question, and I mean no disrespect by "invading any privacy"; was just curious...

Had, notice I did say had an almost limitless retirement income. That has recently dried up though.

Are you running a 607 currently? NO I have Onkyo equipment higher up in the chain but 3 of my neighbors own the 607.

...not according to Techlord, who feels my current 605 (and applicable to apparently anyone else who owns one) is a bit misleading in terms of "quality" as it's not "high end"...

I wouldn't necessarily call it high end either but not low end by any means. I would call it the starting point of better audio equipment.

Peter Marlowe · 08-28-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

I wouldn't necessarily call it high end either but not low end by any means. I would call it the starting point of better audio equipment.

EXACTLY -- of course it's not "high end" but it seems to get a great deal of criticism because of its "price point" in the market; as as said, I feel it's more of one of the company's mid-priced offerings, even though that usually equates to the $1K-plus models.

You sum it up perfectly:

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I would call it the starting point of better audio equipment.

Stew4HD · 08-29-2009, 07:53 AM

Hopefully this link will work.. Onkyo's new line of 9.2 of "Double 0"receivers starting at $1,599.

Might be my next receiver upgrade!

Peter Marlowe · 08-29-2009, 10:48 PM

NICE Stew...thanks for the news!

Indeed, these look awesome...were there power specs out on these yet?

Loves2Watch · 08-30-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Marlowe

NICE Stew...thanks for the news!

Indeed, these look awesome...were there power specs out on these yet?

The TX-NR5007 is rated at 145 watts per channel, and its power supply features a massive toroidal transformer and a pair of 22,000 microfarad storage capacitors to handle even the most dynamic source material. Both the TX-NR5007 and the 140-watt-per-channel TX-NR3007 feature separate power supply transformers for audio and video processing and reproduction. All three receivers, including the 135-watt-per-channel TX-NR1007, feature a push-pull amplification topology, with three-stage inverted Darlington circuitry and the company's highly regarded WRAT (Wide Range Amplifier Technology) for highly dynamic and linear response throughout the audible spectrum.

See full press release here - http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/x007.html

08-28-2009, 01:02 PM	#24
JMS I'm gettin' all pixelated Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus,OH Posts: 713	Here's the Butterworth review Peter mentioned in an earlier post. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/fea...logic-iiz.html To answer the original question: Since I never went 6/7.1 in my system, you can guess how soon I may be going for PL IIz. You do have to hand it to Onkyo for being on the cutting edge in recent times. Last edited by JMS; 08-28-2009 at 01:09 PM.

08-29-2009, 07:53 AM	#28
Stew4HD High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tejas Baby Posts: 9,187	Hopefully this link will work.. Onkyo's new line of 9.2 of "Double 0"receivers starting at $1,599. Might be my next receiver upgrade! __________________ ___________________________________

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