Family Guy and The Cleveland Show In Widescreen?

shortyd999 · 09-28-2009, 03:59 PM

Correct me if i'm wrong but Seth produces The Cleveland Show as well as Family Guy right? So why is The Cleveland Show in widescreen but Family Guy isnt? I dont knw why thats starting to bother me but it is. Any thoughts?

bingotem · 10-02-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shortyd999

Correct me if i'm wrong but Seth produces The Cleveland Show as well as Family Guy right? So why is The Cleveland Show in widescreen but Family Guy isnt? I dont knw why thats starting to bother me but it is. Any thoughts?

Maybe they had the FG episodes in the can before he moved over to the new show? Just a though.

Cra1g · 10-12-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bingotem

Maybe they had the FG episodes in the can before he moved over to the new show? Just a though.

Family Guy is still being made. It's on its 8th season right now.

I'm not sure why the Cleveland Show is in HD, but not Family Guy. This upsets me as well.

Shark2k · 10-12-2009, 01:27 PM

It could be as simple as it's a new show so he decided to go widescreen with it and FG could still be 4:3 because of the fact that they probably had a good amount of this seasons episodes finished and they were in 4:3. There is a chance, since he allowed Cleveland to be in widescreen that at some point during this season he might switch over to widescreen for FG. We'll just have to wait and see.

-Shark2k

Tankerbot · 10-12-2009, 02:59 PM

Or perhaps the tv station your viewing decided to turn on stretch-o-vision for that show? I don't remember that one being in widescreen the last time I watched it.

Shark2k · 10-12-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankerbot

Or perhaps the tv station your viewing decided to turn on stretch-o-vision for that show? I don't remember that one being in widescreen the last time I watched it.

The Cleveland show is in true widescreen. The very first episode started off in 4:3 and when Cleveland started driving away from Quahog, they opened up the picture to make it true widescreen.

-Shark2k

Tankerbot · 10-12-2009, 03:48 PM

Just now started to watch an ep on the website....so it is in HD....I guess I didn't remember it being in HD for some reason.... lol

87burb · 10-25-2009, 01:11 AM

Its hd for me.

Shark2k · 10-25-2009, 11:23 AM

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Its hd for me.

HD does not neccesarily mean widescreen. Even though by definition HD is a widescreen resolution there are 4:3 movies/shows out there that are HD but not widescreen. Wizard of Oz is HD but is 4:3. So, whether it is HD or not does not mean anything. Likewise you can have non HD widescreen (Cops used to be like this on Fox).

-Shark2k

Tankerbot · 10-27-2009, 05:16 PM

Yes, but for all intensive purposes it shouldn't be advertised as HD if it's a modern show! That's how I see it. I see no issue with making older stuff into HD by upconverting analog based sourced that could produce a HD res image and such, but shows like ET/The Insider need to stop advertising their show as HD untill they either get all ABC affiliates to actually broadcast the show in HD or actually provide a source to the ABC affiliates that is in HD.

Cause what I see is is 4:3 and not HD. It' isn't even HD 4:3. Crappy SD. So why the hell are they saying it's in HD? I have to cry out bulls*** on that one.

Shark2k · 11-01-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankerbot

Yes, but for all intensive purposes it shouldn't be advertised as HD if it's a modern show! That's how I see it. I see no issue with making older stuff into HD by upconverting analog based sourced that could produce a HD res image and such, but shows like ET/The Insider need to stop advertising their show as HD untill they either get all ABC affiliates to actually broadcast the show in HD or actually provide a source to the ABC affiliates that is in HD.

Cause what I see is is 4:3 and not HD. It' isn't even HD 4:3. Crappy SD. So why the hell are they saying it's in HD? I have to cry out bulls*** on that one.

Well that's an issue you would have to take up with ABC. When Fox was broadcasting Cops in SD Widescreen, they never actually said it was HD. People just assumed, but if you looked at the bottom of the screen during the intro, it would say Fox Widescreen, with nothing about HD. So it really doesn't matter if it's widescreen or 4:3 as either can be SD.

As far as I know, E/T is available in HD. What they should do is what channels like TLC and others do. They should be like "This show available in HD" (it might have something else after that). Of TLC says you are watching "Show Name" on TLC HD, which to me is kind of a way of saying the show is HD (or they just think the person watching is stupid).

But all that doesn't have any bearing on what I said as I was just explaining that a 4:3 picture can in fact be HD.

-Shark2k

Luvizio · 11-01-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark2k

HD does not neccesarily mean widescreen. Even though by definition HD is a widescreen resolution there are 4:3 movies/shows out there that are HD but not widescreen. Wizard of Oz is HD but is 4:3. So, whether it is HD or not does not mean anything. Likewise you can have non HD widescreen (Cops used to be like this on Fox).

-Shark2k

True HD is widescreen 1:78. There are shows that are "up-converted" to a higher resolution but are not "HD". Some shows like E/T for example are available in HD, but due to local station issues they may not be shown in HD. CBS 4 here in Miami is a piece of crap. They are the only local station that are not broadcasting in HD. They are still broadcasting in 4:3 so sometimes when main CBS programs that are HD are routed through them, the shows are shown in 4:3.

Shark2k · 11-01-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Luvizio

True HD is widescreen 1:78. There are shows that are "up-converted" to a higher resolution but are not "HD".

Yes, going by the definition of HD 100%, HD is a widescreen aspect ratio. According to that definition and what you said, anything less than 1.78:1 (not 1:78) or anything greater, would not be considered HD. That is of course not the case. A 4:3 movie does not need to utilize the full resolution of HD (we are going to just talk about 1080p, but this would pertain to 720p also). A 4:3 movie is going to have a resolution of 1440x1080. Those 480 lines of resolution that are not being used by the picture (240 lines to the left and right of the picture) are encoded as black "bars" or unused space. That is still an HD image and is not upconverted. If you watched The Wizard of Oz when it was on TBS HD a little while back, it was in 4:3 and it was HD.

Conversely, movies shot in a greater aspect ratio would also not fall into True HD according to what you say because, taking the greater aspect ratio of 2.40:1 (among others), the resolution would be 1920x800. Those 280 lines of resolution not used in this one would become 140 lines of black space above and below the picture. That is still an HD image. *Though I did just think of this. I can mess up your definition easily (and that's only because you said Widescreen 1.78:1). People that have CIH (constant image height) home theater setups with a 2.35:1 aspect ratio will use the full 1080 resolution when displaying a 2.35:1 movie. They have an anamorphic lens which will cause the image of a 2.35:1 movie to fill up the whole screen, using all the light output the projector can offer and allowing the use of 100% of the pixels on the projector's display. (read: http://www.projectorcentral.com/235_home_theater.htm "What is the advantage of the anamoprhic lens?" section, third paragraph in that section).*

Really though, if you look up High-definition television on Wikipedia they have this as the first sentence: High-definition television (or HDTV) is a digital television broadcasting system with higher resolution than traditional television systems (standard-definition TV, or SDTV). I believe that, combined with something like, "with a minimum resolution being 720p," or something to that affect, would be a better definition.

-Shark2k

Luvizio · 11-02-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark2k

Yes, going by the definition of HD 100%, HD is a widescreen aspect ratio. According to that definition and what you said, anything less than 1.78:1 (not 1:78) or anything greater, would not be considered HD. That is of course not the case. A 4:3 movie does not need to utilize the full resolution of HD (we are going to just talk about 1080p, but this would pertain to 720p also). A 4:3 movie is going to have a resolution of 1440x1080. Those 480 lines of resolution that are not being used by the picture (240 lines to the left and right of the picture) are encoded as black "bars" or unused space. That is still an HD image and is not upconverted. If you watched The Wizard of Oz when it was on TBS HD a little while back, it was in 4:3 and it was HD.

Conversely, movies shot in a greater aspect ratio would also not fall into True HD according to what you say because, taking the greater aspect ratio of 2.40:1 (among others), the resolution would be 1920x800. Those 280 lines of resolution not used in this one would become 140 lines of black space above and below the picture. That is still an HD image. *Though I did just think of this. I can mess up your definition easily (and that's only because you said Widescreen 1.78:1). People that have CIH (constant image height) home theater setups with a 2.35:1 aspect ratio will use the full 1080 resolution when displaying a 2.35:1 movie. They have an anamorphic lens which will cause the image of a 2.35:1 movie to fill up the whole screen, using all the light output the projector can offer and allowing the use of 100% of the pixels on the projector's display. (read: http://www.projectorcentral.com/235_home_theater.htm "What is the advantage of the anamoprhic lens?" section, third paragraph in that section).*

Really though, if you look up High-definition television on Wikipedia they have this as the first sentence: High-definition television (or HDTV) is a digital television broadcasting system with higher resolution than traditional television systems (standard-definition TV, or SDTV). I believe that, combined with something like, "with a minimum resolution being 720p," or something to that affect, would be a better definition.

-Shark2k

Typically, I don't use wiki as a reference but I will make an exception and give you the qoute from wiki for high definion video:

"High-definition video has an aspect ratio of 16:9 (1.78:1). The aspect ratio of regular widescreen film shot today is typically 1.85:1 or 2.39:1 (sometimes traditionally quoted at 2.35:1). Standard-definition television (SDTV) has a 4:3 (1.33:1) aspect ratio, although in recent years many broadcasters have transmitted programs "squeezed" horizontally in 16:9 anamorphic format, in hopes that the viewer has a 16:9 set which stretches the image out to normal-looking proportions, or a set which "squishes" the image vertically to present a "letterbox" view of the image, again with correct proportions"

Tankerbot · 11-02-2009, 09:29 PM

Thank god I don't have any stations that "squeeze" the picture. :P

There's the Fox Accuweather channel my local station provides. It's clearly a 4:3 aspect ratio stretched to 16:9 (and still SD as it gets pixalated). But nothing my living room converter box can't fix with a stretch option turned on.

09-28-2009, 03:59 PM	#1
shortyd999 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 52	Family Guy and The Cleveland Show In Widescreen? Correct me if i'm wrong but Seth produces The Cleveland Show as well as Family Guy right? So why is The Cleveland Show in widescreen but Family Guy isnt? I dont knw why thats starting to bother me but it is. Any thoughts? __________________ I Love HD! *Vizio 42" Plasma (42VPP)* *PS3 80gigs*

10-12-2009, 02:59 PM	#5
Tankerbot Interdimisional Spy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Levelland TX Age: 22 Posts: 94	Or perhaps the tv station your viewing decided to turn on stretch-o-vision for that show? I don't remember that one being in widescreen the last time I watched it. __________________ I have Cameras in your head!

10-12-2009, 03:48 PM	#7
Tankerbot Interdimisional Spy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Levelland TX Age: 22 Posts: 94	Just now started to watch an ep on the website....so it is in HD....I guess I didn't remember it being in HD for some reason.... lol __________________ I have Cameras in your head!

10-27-2009, 05:16 PM	#10
Tankerbot Interdimisional Spy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Levelland TX Age: 22 Posts: 94	Yes, but for all intensive purposes it shouldn't be advertised as HD if it's a modern show! That's how I see it. I see no issue with making older stuff into HD by upconverting analog based sourced that could produce a HD res image and such, but shows like ET/The Insider need to stop advertising their show as HD untill they either get all ABC affiliates to actually broadcast the show in HD or actually provide a source to the ABC affiliates that is in HD. Cause what I see is is 4:3 and not HD. It' isn't even HD 4:3. Crappy SD. So why the hell are they saying it's in HD? I have to cry out bulls*** on that one. __________________ I have Cameras in your head!

11-02-2009, 09:29 PM	#15
Tankerbot Interdimisional Spy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Levelland TX Age: 22 Posts: 94	Thank god I don't have any stations that "squeeze" the picture. :P There's the Fox Accuweather channel my local station provides. It's clearly a 4:3 aspect ratio stretched to 16:9 (and still SD as it gets pixalated). But nothing my living room converter box can't fix with a stretch option turned on. __________________ I have Cameras in your head!

10-12-2009, 01:27 PM	#4
Shark2k High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Orange, NJ Age: 23 Posts: 549	It could be as simple as it's a new show so he decided to go widescreen with it and FG could still be 4:3 because of the fact that they probably had a good amount of this seasons episodes finished and they were in 4:3. There is a chance, since he allowed Cleveland to be in widescreen that at some point during this season he might switch over to widescreen for FG. We'll just have to wait and see. -Shark2k

10-25-2009, 01:11 AM	#8
87burb My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9	Its hd for me.