Nobody Wants Blu-ray -- Study

eHDMI · 08-05-2008, 06:52 AM

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Consumers do not want Blu-ray, says a research firm. A consumer survey done by ABI Research revealed that over half of the 1000 respondents had 'other priorities,' to buying a Blu-ray player, saying that they had no plans to purchase one; a further 23% are likely to buy, but not until sometime in 2009.

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Rich_Guy · 08-05-2008, 09:18 AM

And most of those people surveyed probably did not own an HD TV. If you own a good HD TV Blu-ray is the DVD player to have. Current prices still keep Blu-ray as an enthusiast item, as prices drop Blu-ray will become more accepted by the main stream buyer. Most people still don't own a TV that would benefit from a Blu-ray player, many homes that own HD sets don't even know they need an HD source to get an HD picture. HD is still at it's infancy but it will grow.

**rbinck** · 08-05-2008, 09:29 AM

Obviously the author chose his title to be as controversial as possible to try to spike viewership. People should shy away from making such dogmatic statements though and saying nobody wants Blu-ray is pretty dogmatic. Heck I have some Blu-ray discs, so he just called me nobody.

I think these surveys are largely useless and the surveys that matters are the ones taken at the cash register.

Bigloww · 08-05-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rbinck

Heck I have some Blu-ray discs, so he just called me nobody.

Just because you have it, doesn't always mean you wanted it..

HD Goofnut · 08-05-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rbinck

Obviously the author chose his title to be as controversial as possible to try to spike viewership. People should shy away from making such dogmatic statements though and saying nobody wants Blu-ray is pretty dogmatic. Heck I have some Blu-ray discs, so he just called me nobody.

I think these surveys are largely useless and the surveys that matters are the ones taken at the cash register.

You got that right. This survey stinks of wrong test group. Now if it had been 1000 HDTV owners, that would have been much more accurate.

CoachZ · 08-07-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eHDMI

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Spend some money on a dictionary.....NOBODY

BobY · 08-07-2008, 02:43 PM

Wow, what a garbage article!

And I say that even as someone who has no interest in Blu-Ray and doesn't expect it to become more than a niche format.

So they can extrapolate from 1000 responses, only half of which said they weren't interested, that nobody is interested? Despite 23% who indicated they are interested? The logic is boggling.

The actual ABI survey is a bit more scientifically based, but even so, the conclusions are suspect:

http://www.abiresearch.com/products/...Survey+Results

I do have to point out that their statement "While you might think gamers purchase fewer movie discs than others, we didn't see any significant evidence of that in our results" is also garbage--all you need to do is look at the number of BD discs sold compared to the number of PS3's sold to obviously see there is a very large group of PS3 owners who are not buying any discs.

The PDF article linked to which "showed that Blu-ray adoption had outpaced DVD adoption" is also garbage. Firstly, it's only for Europe and secondly it only counts player sales, counting every PS3 as a BD player. Actual disc unit sales put Blu-Ray far, far behind DVD at this point in it's life, even though BD has more players in the field (as a result of PS3) than DVD did at the same point in it's life.

crysisworm · 08-07-2008, 02:51 PM

Spin......spin.....Spin they probably surveyed 1000 peeps that live in a mobile home park and draw social security......the numbers can be made to show virtually anything... I bet if someone tried just a bit you could target a group that would show that 65% own Blu and 90% plan to in the near future........

Bravestime · 08-07-2008, 03:10 PM

This article is too funny. The writer should be careful in future articles to prevent being sued by false titles or statements.

Chris Gerhard · 08-07-2008, 03:32 PM

The concept of relying on some silly survey of the population in general to make conclusions about Blu-ray is dumb to begin with. Blu-ray is at about 10% of the DVD volume now in the US based on what I have been reading. That is a significant increase that has been shown the last few weeks and as more people purchase an HDTV and see neighbors, friends, family or coworkers that have Blu-ray, more and more are going to be interested. Asking somebody that doesn't own an HDTV and doesn't have close ties to people that own Blu-ray, whether or not they plan to purchase Blu-ray is caca. Ask owners of HDTV whether or not they are interested in Blu-ray, nobody without HDTV is going to buy Blu-ray, that much I agree with. I believe HDTV is in about 40% of US homes now and if 23% responded to this survey indicating they are planning on purchasing Blu-ray, I see that as about 50% of HDTV owners are planning on purchasing a Blu-ray player. People just planning on purchasing an HDTV haven't yet decided on all sources that will be acquired. As Blockbuster stocks bigger inventories and more neighbors have players, Blu-ray is going to grow. Growth this year has been really good and it is expected to pick up this holiday season. I am sure DVD was faced with similar reluctance from people happy with VHS. Once DVD was seen, the reluctance quickly disappeared and the rest is history.

Chris

Chris Gerhard · 08-07-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BobY

Wow, what a garbage article!

And I say that even as someone who has no interest in Blu-Ray and doesn't expect it to become more than a niche format.

Which is why I am puzzled that you attempt to be part of the conversation so often about something you don't want and know so little about. You apparently didn't want HD DVD either since I don't think you purchased it but you championed that format as having a chance at mass market success, a really bizarre opinion based on nothing I could ever grasp.

Chris

BobY · 08-07-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

Which is why I am puzzled that you attempt to be part of the conversation so often about something you don't want and know so little about. You apparently didn't want HD DVD either since I don't think you purchased it but you championed that format as having a chance at mass market success, a really bizarre opinion based on nothing I could ever grasp.

Chris

Are you ever going to stop talking about HD DVD? It's dead and gone. Has been for months. I only mention it any more in response to people like you who continually bring it up.

I didn't buy into HD DVD for the Same reason I see no point buying into Blu-Ray--there is simply not enough content to make it a worthwhile investment and Blu-Ray, of course, commands a premium price, making it an even worse value than HD DVD.

To be perfectly honest, Chris, I'm glad you think my opinions are bizarre. It gives me confirmation that I'm still on the right track.

Jim Bob Jones · 08-08-2008, 07:18 AM

Since this is essentially a rank speculation thread, I'll add my 2 cents to the din. Until Blu-ray players hit the two hundred dollar or less range, consumer acceptance will be slow and it will remain essentially a niche market. HD DVD had a clear advantage.

gosmosis · 08-08-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob Jones

Since this is essentially a rank speculation thread, I'll add my 2 cents to the din. Until Blu-ray players hit the two hundred dollar or less range, consumer acceptance will be slow and it will remain essentially a niche market. HD DVD had a clear advantage.

Now my 2 cents. I thought HD was priced lower only because they were in a cat fight with BD. Was that the case - or was it cheaper from day 1? (apples vs apples)

tcarcio · 08-08-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob Jones

Since this is essentially a rank speculation thread, I'll add my 2 cents to the din. Until Blu-ray players hit the two hundred dollar or less range, consumer acceptance will be slow and it will remain essentially a niche market. HD DVD had a clear advantage.

I agree, if nothing HD dvd showed people that it is not prudent to buy into a format unless it is has a strong marketshare. I am not saying that BD won't do that in time but people want to feel good about spending their money and until prices are at that point where they can make people feel that way it remains a wait and see scenario. IMO.

08-05-2008, 09:29 AM	#3
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 12,301	Obviously the author chose his title to be as controversial as possible to try to spike viewership. People should shy away from making such dogmatic statements though and saying nobody wants Blu-ray is pretty dogmatic. Heck I have some Blu-ray discs, so he just called me nobody. I think these surveys are largely useless and the surveys that matters are the ones taken at the cash register. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

08-07-2008, 02:43 PM	#7
BobY What's all this, then?... Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,197	Wow, what a garbage article! And I say that even as someone who has no interest in Blu-Ray and doesn't expect it to become more than a niche format. So they can extrapolate from 1000 responses, only half of which said they weren't interested, that nobody is interested? Despite 23% who indicated they are interested? The logic is boggling. The actual ABI survey is a bit more scientifically based, but even so, the conclusions are suspect: http://www.abiresearch.com/products/...Survey+Results I do have to point out that their statement "While you might think gamers purchase fewer movie discs than others, we didn't see any significant evidence of that in our results" is also garbage--all you need to do is look at the number of BD discs sold compared to the number of PS3's sold to obviously see there is a very large group of PS3 owners who are not buying any discs. The PDF article linked to which "showed that Blu-ray adoption had outpaced DVD adoption" is also garbage. Firstly, it's only for Europe and secondly it only counts player sales, counting every PS3 as a BD player. Actual disc unit sales put Blu-Ray far, far behind DVD at this point in it's life, even though BD has more players in the field (as a result of PS3) than DVD did at the same point in it's life. Last edited by BobY; 08-07-2008 at 02:46 PM.

08-07-2008, 02:51 PM	#8
crysisworm Sinister and Brooding Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South of the Border Posts: 84	Spin......spin.....Spin they probably surveyed 1000 peeps that live in a mobile home park and draw social security......the numbers can be made to show virtually anything... I bet if someone tried just a bit you could target a group that would show that 65% own Blu and 90% plan to in the near future........ __________________ ..................... The Underlings are upon us

08-07-2008, 03:10 PM	#9
Bravestime Supporter of HiDef Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Aiken, SC Age: 53 Posts: 4,414	This article is too funny. The writer should be careful in future articles to prevent being sued by false titles or statements. __________________ Life is Short, Watch a Movie

08-07-2008, 03:32 PM	#10
Chris Gerhard High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,163	The concept of relying on some silly survey of the population in general to make conclusions about Blu-ray is dumb to begin with. Blu-ray is at about 10% of the DVD volume now in the US based on what I have been reading. That is a significant increase that has been shown the last few weeks and as more people purchase an HDTV and see neighbors, friends, family or coworkers that have Blu-ray, more and more are going to be interested. Asking somebody that doesn't own an HDTV and doesn't have close ties to people that own Blu-ray, whether or not they plan to purchase Blu-ray is caca. Ask owners of HDTV whether or not they are interested in Blu-ray, nobody without HDTV is going to buy Blu-ray, that much I agree with. I believe HDTV is in about 40% of US homes now and if 23% responded to this survey indicating they are planning on purchasing Blu-ray, I see that as about 50% of HDTV owners are planning on purchasing a Blu-ray player. People just planning on purchasing an HDTV haven't yet decided on all sources that will be acquired. As Blockbuster stocks bigger inventories and more neighbors have players, Blu-ray is going to grow. Growth this year has been really good and it is expected to pick up this holiday season. I am sure DVD was faced with similar reluctance from people happy with VHS. Once DVD was seen, the reluctance quickly disappeared and the rest is history. Chris Last edited by Chris Gerhard; 08-07-2008 at 03:36 PM.

08-05-2008, 09:18 AM	#2
Rich_Guy Love my 50" Panny Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 730	And most of those people surveyed probably did not own an HD TV. If you own a good HD TV Blu-ray is the DVD player to have. Current prices still keep Blu-ray as an enthusiast item, as prices drop Blu-ray will become more accepted by the main stream buyer. Most people still don't own a TV that would benefit from a Blu-ray player, many homes that own HD sets don't even know they need an HD source to get an HD picture. HD is still at it's infancy but it will grow.

08-08-2008, 07:18 AM	#13
Jim Bob Jones High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,181	Since this is essentially a rank speculation thread, I'll add my 2 cents to the din. Until Blu-ray players hit the two hundred dollar or less range, consumer acceptance will be slow and it will remain essentially a niche market. HD DVD had a clear advantage.

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