How do I burn these clips to DVD and watch them on HDTV?

provoko · 12-15-2005, 12:15 AM

I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850.

I have WMV and m2t files I want to burn onto DVD and watch them on my HDTV. Well how do I do it, what program do I use, do I have to convert WMV to another file type? Thanks.

digitalkid2 · 12-15-2005, 07:47 AM

You are probably the only person on the planet who has a DVD player that plays HD DVDs, what player is it?

At the moment I do not think there is any way to burn HD video as HD video to DVD in a HD DVD readable format.

digitalkid2 · 12-15-2005, 07:55 AM

Sorry I missed that you bought the Samsung HD850. This is not really an HD DVD player. What it does is upconvert regular DVD's (NTSC standard definition) to 720p or 1080i. It can not play HD DVD's. None really exist.

You can purchase WMVHD disks BUT they are meant to be played on a computer, there are no DVD players available yet that can play them.

Another way to say this is that WHEN true HD DVD's become available, your DVD player will probably not be able to play them.

JimmytheSaint · 12-15-2005, 10:48 AM

There are dvd players such as the Snazio 1350 and Zensonic Z500 that play HD .ts files or HD XviD files from a regular dvd (so effectively HD dvd

). They also stream 1080i/720P from your computer, either wireless or wired LAN. I'm using the Snazio wired and it works very well. They can also play WMV through the network (DRM needs to be activated by playing on media player first to aquire license and connection to dvd player via 'Windows Connect').

digitalkid2 · 12-15-2005, 11:29 AM

I have an Linkplayer2 which is similar to the Snazio 1350 but I do not consider it to be a HD DVD player(it is really an HD capable Digital Media Player), you can not load an HD DVD into the DVD player and have it play. Yes you can stream HD material to it and have it display it as HD on your TV but that is very different than what the Samsung HD850 can do.

BTW have you streamed any DRM protected WMVHD using your 1350? Have you tried T2 Extreme DVD or Stormchasers ect..... When streaming WMVHD with DRM what is your CPU utilization?

provoko · 12-17-2005, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalkid2

Sorry I missed that you bought the Samsung HD850. This is not really an HD DVD player. What it does is upconvert regular DVD's (NTSC standard definition) to 720p or 1080i. It can not play HD DVD's. None really exist.

You can purchase WMVHD disks BUT they are meant to be played on a computer, there are no DVD players available yet that can play them.

Another way to say this is that WHEN true HD DVD's become available, your DVD player will probably not be able to play them.

Uhhhhh please stop replying when you've mis understood my topic. First of all I never even mentioned HD DVD players or HD DVDs, get that out of your head and don't mention it again. Three replies from you and every single one of them says HD DVD. Jesus, haha, this is the first time I'm typing HD DVD.

Second, I want to burn HD STUFF onto DVDs to play on my DVD player.

Let me explain in simplier terms... I want to burn movie clips to a DVD, how do I do that? Haha.

I mean even if I got it wrong that it can't play HD stuff, whats with four replies that don't answer my question.

Thanks for all the information, but I'm really only trying to burn movie clips and nero doesn't burn wmv or mpg movies onto dvds, what does?

digitalkid2 · 12-17-2005, 09:56 AM

provoko you wrote in your last post:
"Second, I want to burn HD STUFF onto DVDs to play on my DVD player."
What is HD STUFF? Most people would interpret HD to mean High Definition

Also, you wrote in your first post:
"I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850."
HD usually means High Definition, hence when you said that your DVD player plays HD movies and THEN you ask how to burn them to DVD it is hard to not assume you meant High Definition.

So what do you mean when you say HD? Do you mean Hard Drive??? The universially accepted acronym for Hard Drive is HDD not HD.

If your post were more clear and understandable then I would be bet that you would be getting more response than you are. When posting you have to be detailed and clear and above all patient. Video stuff has a language of its own and until it is learned you need to expect some rough spots.

Wiley · 12-17-2005, 12:05 PM

we're on similar pages. Bear with me a second or two and see if this is close to what you are looking for:
First, from what I am able to determine you are not going to be able to burn HD content onto a standard DVD in any format that I am aware of that will play on a standard DVD player and truly be High Def. Not that it is a limitation of the disc but rather of the player you wish to use. Standard DVD players are designed to read info in certain formats and at present none of these are either 720P or 1080I.

So what is the next best thing? Well for me, I am very impressed with the quality of Superbit DVDs when played on my OPPO. High Def is great but in reality no better than the quality of the source material which is displayed as HD. A poor master will not get better simply because it is in higher resolution. That is why they are remastering alot of source material, but lets stay focused for a moment.

It is my current thought is that the best I am able to achieve at this time (with existing technologies, and that also don't cost and arm and a leg) is to take HD material and then scale it to 480P and then burn it to a disk. The "parent" or source material is as good as it is going to be at this point in time. HD the scaled to 480 therefore is hopefully going to be equivalent to a "remastered" DVD and if the bitrate is fairly high when it is recorded it should display quite well. Not HD but better than or at least equivalent to a standard DVD. I have yet to learn how or if one can adjust bitrate either when recording from a source or by massaging the data after it is recorded (obviously one can work downhill making a lower bitrate from a higher easier than making the reverse (which would be much like the 2-3 pulldown thing to make 24 frame material present better in 60 frame rate)). Perhaps I won't know until I try, maybe the birate will be high enough with no further manipulation of the data.

I'm still learning what can and has been done in this quest. I try to learn as much as possible before throwing my money at a problem.

I am at the moment trying to learn what the format of the HD data will be as it comes from my STB at 480P. I hoping something akin to a standard VIDEO_TS file format but maybe not that organized as it is a stream?. There are recorders that record SD material but at the moment I do not know whether SD is in a similar format to HD at 480P. Someone is going to complain about that statment but what do you call HD material that is not displayed at true HD resolutions? If the formats are the same (just bigger files) then it would be SD but if the formats aren't the same it isn't SD just 480P HD? Thoughts anyone?

Have I just muddied the water further? Or has this been any help?

Wiley

provoko · 12-17-2005, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalkid2

provoko you wrote in your last post:
"Second, I want to burn HD STUFF onto DVDs to play on my DVD player."
What is HD STUFF? Most people would interpret HD to mean High Definition

Also, you wrote in your first post:
"I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850."
HD usually means High Definition, hence when you said that your DVD player plays HD movies and THEN you ask how to burn them to DVD it is hard to not assume you meant High Definition.

So what do you mean when you say HD? Do you mean Hard Drive??? The universially accepted acronym for Hard Drive is HDD not HD.

If your post were more clear and understandable then I would be bet that you would be getting more response than you are. When posting you have to be detailed and clear and above all patient. Video stuff has a language of its own and until it is learned you need to expect some rough spots.

No no no. You assumed I was saying that I owned an HD DVD player and wanted to make HD DVDs, but if you read my post, I make no mention of that. It's like you just created it in your own head that I had HD DVD.

If you said your Linkplayer2 can play HD movies, would I go and flame you with "YOU CAN'T MAKE HD DVDs BECAUSE TOSHIBA DIDN'T REALESE THEM YET FOOL!" No I wouldn't.

Most likely if I had said "my samsung dvd player has a blue light," you probably would have thought I was saying I owned a blue ray player, hahahaha.

HD means high definition, HD DVD is a new media by Toshiba. A dvd that holds a 100 meg 1080i movie clip is... a dvd..... Now if my samsung can't play that, fine say that, don't go off on a tangent with useless replies full of assumptions of things I never spoke of.

Read Wiley's reply, see how he doesn't assume that I own an HD DVD or blue ray player, haha.

And then of course I'm still left with... how do I burn wmv and mpg movie clips onto dvds. Someone help.

digitalkid2 · 12-17-2005, 12:50 PM

provoko;

You made my point! Since you said and meant HD(High Definition)

"Second, I want to burn HD STUFF onto DVDs to play on my DVD player."
What is HD STUFF? Most people would interpret HD to mean High Definition

Also, you wrote in your first post:
"I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850."
HD usually means High Definition, hence when you said that your DVD player plays HD movies and THEN you ask how to burn them to DVD it is hard to not assume you meant High Definition.

Allin4greeN · 12-17-2005, 01:45 PM

That's a pretty appropriate screen name selection.

I have the Samsung HD850 and you're not going to be able to play the formats (MPEG4, DivX) related to doing what I think you're talking about doing. It's a nice little player, but not as flexible as the other players mentioned by digitalkid2, JimmytheSaint and Wiley. I might add the NeuNeo to that list, BTW.

Maybe take it easy on the caffeine, huh?

provoko · 12-17-2005, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalkid2

provoko;

You made my point! Since you said and meant HD(High Definition)

"Second, I want to burn HD STUFF onto DVDs to play on my DVD player."
What is HD STUFF? Most people would interpret HD to mean High Definition

Also, you wrote in your first post:
"I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850."
HD usually means High Definition, hence when you said that your DVD player plays HD movies and THEN you ask how to burn them to DVD it is hard to not assume you meant High Definition.

The hell digitalkid!!! You're just spamming now! What is your problem? First you assume I have an HD DVD player, second you double posted, third you go into a whole thing about HD DVDs when I made no mention of hd dvds. Now you go off and spam my thread with something you've already replied with. I'm not blind.

I said I wanted to burn HD on to DVD, thats far far far from "HD DVD" which is a COMPLETELY different media type that uses a different player. I have no confusion between acronyms or terms, I fully understand HD, DVD, HD DVD, 720, 1080, so on.

Forget for the moment I have the samsung player. Lets say I own a Linkplayer2, Snazio 1350 or NeuNeo. How, for the love of god, would I burn HD movie clips to a DVD? And how would I burn ANY movie clip to a dvd?

Does everyone understand what I'm asking for? When I enter neroexpress and go to burn dvd-video files, it asks for bup, vop, and ifo files. I have no clue what they are, I have wmv, mov and mpg files that I want to burn onto a dvd. What program/software will convert wmv, mov and mpg files so that they can be burned onto a dvd and watched from a DVD player? Thats a dvd player, not a hd dvd or blue ray player.

If everyone just stopped and read exactly what I typed, it wouldn't take 10+ posts to help me.

Thanks for all the information.

**rbinck** · 12-18-2005, 10:03 AM

First let me say that we don't usually respond to reasonable disagreements between posters, but in this case the thread was reported as a spamming issue. Clearly to me this is not a spamming issue, but rather a communication problem between posters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by provoko

I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850.

I have WMV and m2t files I want to burn onto DVD and watch them on my HDTV. Well how do I do it, what program do I use, do I have to convert WMV to another file type? Thanks.

You clearly said that your player would play movies in HD. You might not consider this to include or mean HD DVDs, but most people here would. There is not any explanation as to what was meant by "I have a DVD player that can play HD movies" and I still don't know what was meant by that statement. Many responders assumed you meant HD like it says. There is probably an answer to the question of how do you burn HD clips to a DVD so it can be played on your player, but that was lost in the defending of the HD subject itself.

Now to the spamming issue. Spam is defined by dictionary.com as:

Quote:

Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.

In the case of a message board it would be a post that is of a commercial nature meant to solicit business. Post that disagree or repeatetly try to clarify is not considered spam and as long as there is not any personal slams or attacks is perfectly ok. The way to stop it is by not responding or acknowledging the miscommunication.

pronoba · 12-22-2005, 04:01 AM

Hmm..it looks like no one has answered ur question yet. I fully understood what u're trying to do. People are just too sensitive in these forums.

Anyways, hopefully this helps. I use both a Mac and a PC and Im trying to do the same thing as u. I captured an HD clip using my mac (an m2t mpeg-ts) file. There is a program called streamclip that is a free util on the mac that allows u to convert the mpeg2-ts codec files to mpeg2 (DVD). Ofcourse u are going to loose all that resolution as its going to down convert to 420p for DVD. For Windows, I am still trying out lots of diff stuff.. try these links
http://www.svcd2dvd.com/HDTV2DVD/default.aspx
hope this helps
Pron

**rbinck** · 12-22-2005, 12:41 PM

I have a stand alone DVD burner that I use to record HD material out of my ATSC receiver in SD. It comes out pretty good - at least as good as DVD in the HQ mode. I don't see why a burner wouldn't burn SD video from a HD file.

12-15-2005, 12:15 AM	#1
provoko High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 36	How do I burn these clips to DVD and watch them on HDTV? I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850. I have WMV and m2t files I want to burn onto DVD and watch them on my HDTV. Well how do I do it, what program do I use, do I have to convert WMV to another file type? Thanks.

12-15-2005, 07:47 AM	#2
digitalkid2 A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12	You are probably the only person on the planet who has a DVD player that plays HD DVDs, what player is it? At the moment I do not think there is any way to burn HD video as HD video to DVD in a HD DVD readable format. __________________ digitalkid2

12-15-2005, 07:55 AM	#3
digitalkid2 A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12	Sorry I missed that you bought the Samsung HD850. This is not really an HD DVD player. What it does is upconvert regular DVD's (NTSC standard definition) to 720p or 1080i. It can not play HD DVD's. None really exist. You can purchase WMVHD disks BUT they are meant to be played on a computer, there are no DVD players available yet that can play them. Another way to say this is that WHEN true HD DVD's become available, your DVD player will probably not be able to play them. __________________ digitalkid2

12-15-2005, 11:29 AM	#5
digitalkid2 A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12	I have an Linkplayer2 which is similar to the Snazio 1350 but I do not consider it to be a HD DVD player(it is really an HD capable Digital Media Player), you can not load an HD DVD into the DVD player and have it play. Yes you can stream HD material to it and have it display it as HD on your TV but that is very different than what the Samsung HD850 can do. BTW have you streamed any DRM protected WMVHD using your 1350? Have you tried T2 Extreme DVD or Stormchasers ect..... When streaming WMVHD with DRM what is your CPU utilization? __________________ digitalkid2

12-17-2005, 09:56 AM	#7
digitalkid2 A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12	provoko you wrote in your last post: "Second, I want to burn HD STUFF onto DVDs to play on my DVD player." What is HD STUFF? Most people would interpret HD to mean High Definition Also, you wrote in your first post: "I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850." HD usually means High Definition, hence when you said that your DVD player plays HD movies and THEN you ask how to burn them to DVD it is hard to not assume you meant High Definition. So what do you mean when you say HD? Do you mean Hard Drive??? The universially accepted acronym for Hard Drive is HDD not HD. If your post were more clear and understandable then I would be bet that you would be getting more response than you are. When posting you have to be detailed and clear and above all patient. Video stuff has a language of its own and until it is learned you need to expect some rough spots. __________________ digitalkid2

12-15-2005, 10:48 AM	#4
JimmytheSaint My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	There are dvd players such as the Snazio 1350 and Zensonic Z500 that play HD .ts files or HD XviD files from a regular dvd (so effectively HD dvd ). They also stream 1080i/720P from your computer, either wireless or wired LAN. I'm using the Snazio wired and it works very well. They can also play WMV through the network (DRM needs to be activated by playing on media player first to aquire license and connection to dvd player via 'Windows Connect').

12-17-2005, 12:05 PM	#8
Wiley High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 270	Perhaps... we're on similar pages. Bear with me a second or two and see if this is close to what you are looking for: First, from what I am able to determine you are not going to be able to burn HD content onto a standard DVD in any format that I am aware of that will play on a standard DVD player and truly be High Def. Not that it is a limitation of the disc but rather of the player you wish to use. Standard DVD players are designed to read info in certain formats and at present none of these are either 720P or 1080I. So what is the next best thing? Well for me, I am very impressed with the quality of Superbit DVDs when played on my OPPO. High Def is great but in reality no better than the quality of the source material which is displayed as HD. A poor master will not get better simply because it is in higher resolution. That is why they are remastering alot of source material, but lets stay focused for a moment. It is my current thought is that the best I am able to achieve at this time (with existing technologies, and that also don't cost and arm and a leg) is to take HD material and then scale it to 480P and then burn it to a disk. The "parent" or source material is as good as it is going to be at this point in time. HD the scaled to 480 therefore is hopefully going to be equivalent to a "remastered" DVD and if the bitrate is fairly high when it is recorded it should display quite well. Not HD but better than or at least equivalent to a standard DVD. I have yet to learn how or if one can adjust bitrate either when recording from a source or by massaging the data after it is recorded (obviously one can work downhill making a lower bitrate from a higher easier than making the reverse (which would be much like the 2-3 pulldown thing to make 24 frame material present better in 60 frame rate)). Perhaps I won't know until I try, maybe the birate will be high enough with no further manipulation of the data. I'm still learning what can and has been done in this quest. I try to learn as much as possible before throwing my money at a problem. I am at the moment trying to learn what the format of the HD data will be as it comes from my STB at 480P. I hoping something akin to a standard VIDEO_TS file format but maybe not that organized as it is a stream?. There are recorders that record SD material but at the moment I do not know whether SD is in a similar format to HD at 480P. Someone is going to complain about that statment but what do you call HD material that is not displayed at true HD resolutions? If the formats are the same (just bigger files) then it would be SD but if the formats aren't the same it isn't SD just 480P HD? Thoughts anyone? Have I just muddied the water further? Or has this been any help? Wiley

12-17-2005, 12:50 PM	#10
digitalkid2 A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12	provoko; You made my point! Since you said and meant HD(High Definition) "Second, I want to burn HD STUFF onto DVDs to play on my DVD player." What is HD STUFF? Most people would interpret HD to mean High Definition Also, you wrote in your first post: "I have a DVD player that can play HD movies, 720/1080, it's samsung HD850." HD usually means High Definition, hence when you said that your DVD player plays HD movies and THEN you ask how to burn them to DVD it is hard to not assume you meant High Definition. __________________ digitalkid2

12-17-2005, 01:45 PM	#11
Allin4greeN Let's try this button... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 858	provoko That's a pretty appropriate screen name selection. I have the Samsung HD850 and you're not going to be able to play the formats (MPEG4, DivX) related to doing what I think you're talking about doing. It's a nice little player, but not as flexible as the other players mentioned by digitalkid2, JimmytheSaint and Wiley. I might add the NeuNeo to that list, BTW. Maybe take it easy on the caffeine, huh? __________________ Vizio P50HDTV10A\|Dell Inspiron 1720 w/BDD & HD DVD Add-on\|XBox360\|Toshiba D-VR5\|ViP622 \|Sirius S50-TK1\|RS15-1870 OTA\|Yamaha HTR 5750 (6.1)\|Yamaha NS-AP4400M 3-way mains\|Yamaha NS-AP4400E 3-way center w/2-way surrounds\|Yamaha YST-SW015 sub\|Belkin AP30800-10\|Harmony 676 \|\| Westinghouse LTV-32w1\|Samsung HD850\|ViP211

12-22-2005, 04:01 AM	#14
pronoba What is HD? Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1	Hmm..it looks like no one has answered ur question yet. I fully understood what u're trying to do. People are just too sensitive in these forums. Anyways, hopefully this helps. I use both a Mac and a PC and Im trying to do the same thing as u. I captured an HD clip using my mac (an m2t mpeg-ts) file. There is a program called streamclip that is a free util on the mac that allows u to convert the mpeg2-ts codec files to mpeg2 (DVD). Ofcourse u are going to loose all that resolution as its going to down convert to 420p for DVD. For Windows, I am still trying out lots of diff stuff.. try these links http://www.svcd2dvd.com/HDTV2DVD/default.aspx hope this helps Pron

12-22-2005, 12:41 PM	#15
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,602	I have a stand alone DVD burner that I use to record HD material out of my ATSC receiver in SD. It comes out pretty good - at least as good as DVD in the HQ mode. I don't see why a burner wouldn't burn SD video from a HD file. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

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