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Old 09-22-2012, 05:05 PM   #1
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Default Movie rentals are getting real bad

BB, losing money? Well the studios are not helping! I always rent movies. If I like it enough I'll but it. But, now it seems the studios are helping to kill it, with stuff like the Hunger Games, and no lossless audio track on the rental version. Then lst night with Battleship, and no using the special features on a "rental".
I realize the push to streaming, but these idiots had better get it right, with audio especially. These morons are biting the hand that feeds them. Unless they get past the issue, I'll never subscribe to it.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:07 PM   #2
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I think it's gonna get more common. Lionsgate is removing lossless from rentals (Twilight, Hunger Games, Cabin in the Woods for example), others are removing access to special features and extended cuts.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:12 PM   #3
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I think it's gonna get more common. Lionsgate is removing lossless from rentals (Twilight, Hunger Games, Cabin in the Woods for example), others are removing access to special features and extended cuts.
yeh! Right! Well, they loose me as a customer
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:54 AM   #4
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I think it's gonna get more common. Lionsgate is removing lossless from rentals (Twilight, Hunger Games, Cabin in the Woods for example), others are removing access to special features and extended cuts.
OK newbee question , what is lossless ?

Redbox 99% only has the movie and absolutely no extras witch sucks !
Seems the last few times I rented from BB pretty much the same..
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:44 AM   #5
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Lossless is a type of audio in which the studio masters (sound) is exactly the same as what is on the disc. Think of it as 'hi-def' sound. Normal DTS and Dolby are similar to mp3 via the fact that the final product discards some of the information and thus is close but not exactly the same as the initial product. The removal of special features has beeen going on for some time now. The rental companies get special rental wholesale discs for cheaper and as such the extras are removed. Some of the drive on this is anti-piracy as copying one of these discs leaves you with an incomplete product - if that stuff is important to you then the studio feels you can pony up for the disc. Lossless audio removal wasn't started by Lionsgate but by one of the subsidiaries they acquired and they (for now) have elected to continue the practice. Myself I am not mad at lionsgate at all as they were on of the first and continue to be the leader in offering 7.1 lossless vs more traditional 5.1 lossless on nearly every one of their retail discs. If you are complaining about lack of feature on a $1.25 rental IMO you are a cheapskate.
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:20 PM   #6
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Lossless is a type of audio in which the studio masters (sound) is exactly the same as what is on the disc. Think of it as 'hi-def' sound. Normal DTS and Dolby are similar to mp3 via the fact that the final product discards some of the information and thus is close but not exactly the same as the initial product. The removal of special features has beeen going on for some time now. The rental companies get special rental wholesale discs for cheaper and as such the extras are removed. Some of the drive on this is anti-piracy as copying one of these discs leaves you with an incomplete product - if that stuff is important to you then the studio feels you can pony up for the disc. Lossless audio removal wasn't started by Lionsgate but by one of the subsidiaries they acquired and they (for now) have elected to continue the practice. Myself I am not mad at lionsgate at all as they were on of the first and continue to be the leader in offering 7.1 lossless vs more traditional 5.1 lossless on nearly every one of their retail discs. If you are complaining about lack of feature on a $1.25 rental IMO you are a cheapskate.
Cheap? You sir have the rare ability to judge without knowing facts. Have you or any other bias individual ever thought that a person may have personal issues such as happened to me? A Drunk slammed into me, had no ins. no money. Now I'm screwed with a small income, being perm. injured! Perhaps some can't afford to run out and buy ever movie they want? Or be mobile enough to get out to the movies? Thanks.
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You misunderstand, nothing wrong with being a cheapskate - I am indeed a cheapskate!! Nothing wrong with it but to complain on top of it that you aren't getting what you want is a little bit nonsensical and petulant to me.
Also you ARE NOT entitled to watch any movie you feel like. These are for profit entities and if the studios want to restrict extras then by all means that is their perogative. 'Back in the day' VHS rentals were easily $4-$5 (not counting for inflation) and same thing with inital dvd rentals . Coinstar/Redbox figured out a better model by eliminating much of the overhead and labor cots and were able to drastically reduce costs which they in turn passed on to consumers but at the same time technology increased allowing for duplications and piracy to run rampant. So they have found a way to still let you enjoy a rental and provide a deterrent to piracy and given an incentive to ownership. For $1.29 (slightly more for blu-ray) you can still watch a movie in it's entirety but if you want the red carpet treatment then you have to shell out for a retail version - nothing wrong with that in my book.
Like I stated I am a cheapskate so I rent movies and if they are indeed worthy of owning I then choose to purchase the retail version.
My sincere condolences for your awful tragedy and I wish you the best and hope someday you have a full recovery - nobody deserves what you have gone through. We all have issues, I can't afford to run out to see all the movies I want and so I rent to decide what I really really want to buy and then donate/sell plasma to be able to afford anby electronics or movies I want to buy. My blood donations are the sole source of all my discretionary movie and HT funds. The last two movies I went to the theater for were Avatar and The Avengers (2 trips in the last 4 years) so I do know about not being able to run out and get whatever I want.




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People subscribe to these services for the quality, but if they're going to skimp on the quality, if the movies don't look as good as they should, people are going to go elsewhere or simply download the material illegally.
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People subscribe to these services for the quality, but if they're going to skimp on the quality, if the movies don't look as good as they should, people are going to go elsewhere or simply download the material illegally.
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The movies look fine- nothing has changed. They have just removed the extras and special features and blu-ray has been given the same soundtrack as dvd instead of a lossless one.
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