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Old 11-21-2008, 08:37 PM   #61
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Yes...but lower which format's pricing??? I would suppose that in today's financial climate the studio's have to lower pricing somewhere and based on nothing more than what I noticed at Walmart and their current pricing structure, my own guess is that the studios have decided to lower DVD prices to some degree and keep most BR titles at their current levels even during the holiday season!!!
We all know the studios are greedy. I do not expect the studios to drop any BD movie prices until possibly next year. I feel they want to see what results 2008 Q4 will bring and maybe 2009 Q1. The studios may feel that Q4 BD player price reductions will encourage increased interest in BD movie purchases. If movie purchases really increases during next year, then I wouldn't expect any movie price reductions anytime soon. If movie purchases don't really increase as they expect, then I feel that would push them to entertain lowering BD movie prices.

Although DVD has dropped in sales this year, they still are turning over a sizable profit for the studios. I don't believe they are in any rush to lower the movie prices. Afterall, BD is steadily growing. Even with the slumped economy BD is holding it's own. So the studios are in no hurry.
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I think sony could help the studios out financially making it easier for the studios' to lower their prices.

The costs involved with blu-ray are killer.

The whole process is painful just ask Steve Jobs.

This quote from WB is just publically saying what other people have been saying.
I'm just surprised it was said publically, that's all.
Because it's a pretty bad thing to say.

It could be just a sales angle for TDK, but I seriously doubt it.
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I think sony could help the studios out financially making it easier for the studios' to lower their prices.

The costs involved with blu-ray are killer.

The whole process is painful just ask Steve Jobs.

This quote from WB is just publically saying what other people have been saying.
I'm just surprised it was said publically, that's all.
Because it's a pretty bad thing to say.

It could be just a sales angle for TDK, but I seriously doubt it.
I am sure mikemorel is pleased with the way this thread turned out.

Cheers guys! Let's all hope bluray dies so we are all f*cked. That will show em'!

No HDM for anyone! Yeah!

Die Sony Die!

I am desperately seeking to save that extra $1 again from Netflix, revert back to S DVD, and rent $6 HD rentals from my playstation/360 (if I had one). Can't wait for that!

Awesome.

I sure hope WB kills bluray like they killed HD DVD. I mean, who really needed all of that 1080p video, lossless audio, etc. I mean, this is the point of this thread, right? To cheer about HDM being taken away from ALL of us so that we all know how bad it hurt SOME to lose?
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I assume that you underlined that sentence because you agreed with it.

I for one, WANT an optical HD format to exist. That's my main point.
I want blu-ray movie prices to come down. I don't want to lose that type of format to downloads.

And if blu-ray prices don't come down to $15-20 dollars anytime soon?
I just hope netflix doesn't drop blu-ray like they dropped hd dvd.

I was thinking with all of these blu-ray hardware sales, netflix better get more blu-ray's into their inventories.
Alot of sticker shock is coming when people see blu-ray movie prices after they open their new blu-ray player this christmas.

I wonder how many new blu subscribers they'll get.
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I am sure mikemorel is pleased with the way this thread turned out.

Cheers guys! Let's all hope bluray dies so we are all f*cked. That will show em'!

No HDM for anyone! Yeah!


Die Sony Die!

I am desperately seeking to save that extra $1 again from Netflix, revert back to S DVD, and rent $6 HD rentals from my playstation/360 (if I had one). Can't wait for that!

Awesome.

I sure hope WB kills bluray like they killed HD DVD. I mean, who really needed all of that 1080p video, lossless audio, etc. I mean, this is the point of this thread, right? To cheer about HDM being taken away from ALL of us so that we all know how bad it hurt SOME to lose?
So THAT is what you are really concerned about? You think that people who don't say BD is great and perfect will end up killing BD?

As I said before, the only chance for BD to die is if the BDA companies believe those on these forums think everything with BD is perfect, when it has a lot to do to get BD to be a mass market format. The best way for BD to thrive is to point out the issues that need to be corrected, and voice these issues until the studios (only ones left that have not heard) change things to resolve those issues.

Saying everything is great and perfect will likely do more to kill the format than complaining about what is still an issue with it IMO. People (the vast majority) who don't own the format yet, are waiting for those issues to be corrected before they jump in. If they do not get corrected, they do not jump in like they would and adoption is slowed much more than FACING the issues.

I don't know about you, but I don't stick my head in the sand and hope things resolve themselves, and I sure do not expect the studios to change the issues unless they must.
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So THAT is what you are really concerned about? You think that people who don't say BD is great and perfect will end up killing BD?

As I said before, the only chance for BD to die is if the BDA companies believe those on these forums think everything with BD is perfect, when it has a lot to do to get BD to be a mass market format. The best way for BD to thrive is to point out the issues that need to be corrected, and voice these issues until the studios (only ones left that have not heard) change things to resolve those issues.

Saying everything is great and perfect will likely do more to kill the format than complaining about what is still an issue with it IMO. People (the vast majority) who don't own the format yet, are waiting for those issues to be corrected before they jump in. If they do not get corrected, they do not jump in like they would and adoption is slowed much more than FACING the issues.

I don't know about you, but I don't stick my head in the sand and hope things resolve themselves, and I sure do not expect the studios to change the issues unless they must.
You know there is only one way to enjoy BD. You stick your head in the ground, your fingers in your ears while saying "Lalalala" as loud as you can when ever anything remotely bad is said about the format. After all TDK will save the format with it's great sales. If you can't do that then you must not enjoy HDM.
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Looking at your post reminds me of another subject like what you described.

And then I saw your avatar.

But that's a whole 'nother forum!
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I am sure mikemorel is pleased with the way this thread turned out.

Cheers guys! Let's all hope bluray dies so we are all f*cked. That will show em'!

No HDM for anyone! Yeah!

Die Sony Die!

I am desperately seeking to save that extra $1 again from Netflix, revert back to S DVD, and rent $6 HD rentals from my playstation/360 (if I had one). Can't wait for that!

Awesome.

I sure hope WB kills bluray like they killed HD DVD. I mean, who really needed all of that 1080p video, lossless audio, etc. I mean, this is the point of this thread, right? To cheer about HDM being taken away from ALL of us so that we all know how bad it hurt SOME to lose?
Die Sony Die, i can agree to that....

Blu-ray as a format is in no way threatened by forum posters bad-mouthing it on the internet. Imo they are just an annoyance to BD and HDM fans, nothing more. Giving them the spotlight and attention they crave is just what they want. Best thing imo is to give them none and simply ignore them.

Let's hope mike gets unbanned at HDD soon, so he can return to his home turf.
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Die Sony Die, i can agree to that....

Blu-ray as a format is in no way threatened by forum posters bad-mouthing it on the internet. Imo they are just an annoyance to BD and HDM fans, nothing more. Giving them the spotlight and attention they crave is just what they want. Best thing imo is to give them none and simply ignore them.

Let's hope mike gets unbanned at HDD soon, so he can return to his home turf.
+1 to the whole damn post.
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So some of you guys do not think the quotes from Warner matter at all and think they shouldn't have been posted?
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So some of you guys do not think the quotes from Warner matter at all and think they shouldn't have been posted?
They already were. This thread just picks out one sentence of it for the sole purpose of sensationalism.

Funny how the original thread where this clip comes from only has two posts, this is at 6 pages.

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So some of you guys do not think the quotes from Warner matter at all and think they shouldn't have been posted?
The way it has been posted and interpreted is the problem, not the quote itself.
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Die Sony Die, i can agree to that....

Blu-ray as a format is in no way threatened by forum posters bad-mouthing it on the internet. Imo they are just an annoyance to BD and HDM fans, nothing more. Giving them the spotlight and attention they crave is just what they want. Best thing imo is to give them none and simply ignore them.

Let's hope mike gets unbanned at HDD soon, so he can return to his home turf.
But, but - he is a valued member here at HDF. PFC5 says he has been here for 1.5 years.
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Ahhhh, BrianH has been a member HERE about 2 years longer than YOU have. And Mikemorel has been a member here about 1.5 years before you came here also.
That must mean he is valued, right?

I know I fall for their trap every time - but the intentional spinning and twisting of words is pitiful behavior. And I can't stand seeing their BS go unchallenged - though I know ignoring them would be best. Hard to imagine that all of that anger came from being on the losing side of things.

As I said - there now seems to be a stark anti HDM movement by the select few losers and "supposed" movie lover that somehow no longer care about 1080p/lossless. I guess these people would
be content with reverting back to DVD or the scattered world of DD.

Funny - they were 100% behind HD DVD...

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The way it has been posted and interpreted is the problem, not the quote itself.
No - that would never happen. Funny how this type of "interpretation" always comes from the losing side, no? I mean, between brianh, mikemorel and 85mics - you would think the world ended on 1/4/08. Now some of them seem to actively desire the death of ALL HDM. So, I ask you - who is worse, the "blu zealot" that merely wants people to enjoy bluray, or the people like mikemorel - that want HDM as we know it to DIE? WHich type of person is more beneficial to our little hobby here?

What PFC doesn't seem to understand is certain people intentionally stoke the fire. He seems to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. And certain people - like mikemorel and Deadmeat - do not deserve such treatment. Based on THEIR OWN behaviour over time.
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Regardless of who posted it and how it was posted and why it was posted . . .

Sanders did make that comment. It is a direct quote.

So if their (WB) confidence level is up - why did he say it?
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