High Definition TV Owners Ready For 3-D TV

Bravestime · 11-19-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ack_bak

If it was the right movie (ie a movie I really wanted to see in 3D) then I would bite. Journey To The Center Of The Earth, just looked dumb to me so I passed on buying (not sure if you get the glasses if you rent it), and I already owned Polar Express and did not want to pay to get the 3D version.

I rented Journey to the Center of the Earth, and have to agree. It was stupid, IMO. I do have Polar Express and will buy the 3-D version to check it out, for the grandkids of course.

DonnyDC · 11-19-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Donny:

You posted this:

It would be nice if you included ALL the words in that paragraph.

It doesn't look like this:

THIS is what it says:

I have no clue what youre talking about. Please come back when you got your thoughts pieced together.
The article there's people who would be interested even with glasses, and some who would not.
I said I dont see it taking off considering that limited information.

Apparently you disagree with me so what are exactly are you trying to say? 3D will be huge, it wont, it might be?

ack_bak · 11-19-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravestime

I rented Journey to the Center of the Earth, and have to agree. It was stupid, IMO. I do have Polar Express and will buy the 3-D version to check it out, for the grandkids of course.

Of course

My son loves Polar Express and I own the DVD version. I thought the movie was good, but have not bit on the BD release. I might if I can get it for under $10 at some point.

Lee Stewart · 11-19-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ack_bak

If it was the right movie (ie a movie I really wanted to see in 3D) then I would bite. Journey To The Center Of The Earth, just looked dumb to me so I passed on buying (not sure if you get the glasses if you rent it), and I already owned Polar Express and did not want to pay to get the 3D version.

The 3D they are talking about is NOT the 3D currently being offered on BD or DVD. THAT is the 50+ year old Cyan/Red 3D system.

They are talking about the newer 3D as is shown in theaters. That 3D system is not available yet.

Lee Stewart · 11-19-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

I have no clue what youre talking about. Please come back when you got your thoughts pieced together.
The article there's people who would be interested even with glasses, and some who would not.
I said I dont see it taking off considering that limited information.

Apparently you disagree with me so what are exactly are you trying to say? 3D will be huge, it wont, it might be?

Yes - I DO disagree with you.

Yes - I DO believe 3D will become a major consumer product . . . . . glasses and all.

DonnyDC · 11-19-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

People - 100's of millions of people have seen 3D in the theater and 3D in the theater requires the use of glassses - no matter which type of 3D it is, be it Dolby 3D, RealD or IMAX 3D.

So now all of a sudden - they won't wear them to experience 3D in their homes . . . just like it is presented in the theater.

Most movies arent in 3D, so I dont see how you can come up with the conclusion that people are fine with glasses in the theatre. We already have two people in this thread(ack) who dont like it. Ive seen about 3 movies in imax 3D but I would not prefer it on most releases.
And people are less likely to put up with it at home. If you have more than one person watching, it would just be plain goofy handing out glasses and everyone would feel like corey hart wearing sunglasses at night.

Lee Stewart · 11-19-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

Most movies arent in 3D, so I dont see how you can come up with the conclusion that people are fine with glasses in the theatre. We already have two people in this thread(ack) who dont like it. Ive seen about 3 movies in imax 3D but I would not prefer it on most releases.
And people are less likely to put up with it at home. If you have more than one person watching, it would just be plain goofy handing out glasses and everyone would feel like corey hart wearing sunglasses at night.

Oh - so 2 people . . .

WoW! That's alot!

Your tolerance for "goofy" (your word BTW) must be extremely low.

**PFC5** · 11-19-2008, 05:43 PM

I am very interested in 3D and think/hope it is the "next step" even more than higher than 1080p resolutions. I wish it would have been used much more over the past years. Yes i do wish I didn't need glasses, but I want it either way.

I just hope they come up with something that doesn't require me replacing 4 HDTVs i now have to watch it or they will leave a very interested consumer out of the mix for a few years if they DID require new displays to use whatever they are cooking up. It would be great is they had some type of overlay that can be enabled or disabled for people who do/don't want it on EVERY BD release IMO.

Lee Stewart · 11-19-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I am very interested in 3D and which it would have been used much more over the past years. Yes i do wish I didn't need glasses, but I want it either way.

I just hope they come up with something that doesn't require me replacing 4 HDTVs i now have to watch it or they will leave a very interested consumer out of the mix for a few years if they DID require new displays to use whatever they are cooking up. It would be great is they had some type of overlay that can be enabled or disabled for people who do/don't want it on EVERY BD release IMO.

What they should do and what they will do - well that really is the $64,000 question.

DonnyDC · 11-19-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Oh - so 2 people . . .

WoW! That's alot!

Your tolerance for "goofy" (your word BTW) must be extremely low.

So what we have here is a difference in opinion since nothing in the OP backs up what you say. Just so you know that.

Now thats out of the way yes I do think its goofy and troublesome, especially if I was watching a movie passively(eating, having a conversation, cooking, browsing the internet at the same time)

Lee Stewart · 11-19-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

So what we have hear is a difference in opinion since nothing in the OP backs up what you say. Just so you know that.

You have got to be kidding me!

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• 3-D product awareness: 75 percent of respondents have had a 3-D experience and 73 percent said that they would recommend 3-D to friends or family.

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• 3-D opinions: 3-D is not a gimmick or fad for most surveyed. Both positive and negative opinions are provided; respondents describe 3-D as an image or experience with depth, which is realistic and lifelike. It is an immersive and improved way to experience a movie or game.

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• 3-D glasses: While glasses are a distraction, it was not enough to hinder consumers’ interest in a purchase. Several sub groups will pay more for a 3-D TV without glasses, but even a 3-D experience with glasses is something consumers are interested in for the home.

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• 3-D movies and games: More than half of respondents agreed that 3-D makes movies and games more enjoyable, with gamers finding the 3-D experience slightly more enjoyable than the overall sample.

Everyone one of those bullets is positive about 3D.

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Now thats out of the way yes I do think its goofy and troublesome, especially if I was watching a movie passively(eating, having a conversation, cooking, browsing the internet at the same time)

Yes - it is FINALLY out of the way. I really hope that you read EACH bullet in it's entirety and not cherry pick the words that you want to.

You are confusing the way you watch movies today versus how you would watch a 3D movie. The idea (this seems to be lost on you BTW) is that by adding real depth to the image - you won't want to do all that other crap - all you will want to do is watch the movie. . . in the dark.

Bravestime · 11-19-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I am very interested in 3D and think/hope it is the "next step" even more than higher than 1080p resolutions. I wish it would have been used much more over the past years. Yes i do wish I didn't need glasses, but I want it either way.

I just hope they come up with something that doesn't require me replacing 4 HDTVs i now have to watch it or they will leave a very interested consumer out of the mix for a few years if they DID require new displays to use whatever they are cooking up. It would be great is they had some type of overlay that can be enabled or disabled for people who do/don't want it on EVERY BD release IMO.

If 3-D requires replacement of existing HDTV, this may be a show stopper. Unless, in the near future HDTVs become really cheap to buy. I would to see this become reality though.

Lee Stewart · 11-19-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravestime

If 3-D requires replacement of existing HDTV, this may be a show stopper. Unless, in the near future HDTVs become really cheap to buy. I would to see this become reality though.

If they make 3D work with existing HDTV's - then there is a good chance you will encounter flicker and THAT would be a show stopper.

Many say 30 frames per eye is not enough (The UK is worse - 25 frames). You need a higher frame rate.

And many of todays HDTV's are 120 HZ frame rated. (UK offers 100 Hz)

3D is not going to be for everyone. Just like 1080 HD is not going to be for everyone. It will be something that people are willing to pay for.

DonnyDC · 11-19-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

You have got to be kidding me!

Everyone one of those bullets is positive about 3D.

Obviously you like reading things the way you want to see it.

3-D product awareness: 75 percent of respondents have had a 3-D experience and 73 percent said that they would recommend 3-D to friends or family.
-So thats 75 percent who liked 3D in the current market. The current market being a few movies available in the theatre, and a large Imax experience may have a hand in that decision. That has nothing to say on how a mainstream strategy would succeed.

• 3-D opinions: 3-D is not a gimmick or fad for most surveyed. Both positive and negative opinions are provided; respondents describe 3-D as an image or experience with depth, which is realistic and lifelike. It is an immersive and improved way to experience a movie or game.
-This doesnt say anything about glasses. Now lets go to the next one.

• 3-D glasses: While glasses are a distraction, it was not enough to hinder consumers’ interest in a purchase. Several sub groups will pay more for a 3-D TV without glasses, but even a 3-D experience with glasses is something consumers are interested in for the home.
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-Already addressed this.

• 3-D movies and games: More than half of respondents agreed that 3-D makes movies and games more enjoyable, with gamers finding the 3-D experience slightly more enjoyable than the overall sample.
Back to point 1.

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You are confusing the way you watch movies today versus how you would watch a 3D movie. The idea (this seems to be lost on you BTW) is that by adding real depth to the image - you won't want to do all that other crap - all you will want to do is watch the movie. . . in the dark.

Glasses suck and they are a huge limitation to the adoption of a 3D standard.
Nothing youve said changes that.

Lee Stewart · 11-19-2008, 06:19 PM

Donny:

There is NO current SYSTEM . . . repeat . . . SYSTEM . . . that allows people to see immersive 3D without glasses.

Yes - Phillips has shown a glassesless 3D HDTV. So what are the reviews of this device? As compared to the LCD shutter glasses 3D system?

And speaking of glasses . . .

What is the title of this thread again?

High Definition TV Owners Ready For 3-D TV

11-19-2008, 05:43 PM	#23
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11-19-2008, 06:19 PM	#30
Lee Stewart Behold - the future! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 58 Posts: 25,181	Donny: There is NO current SYSTEM . . . repeat . . . SYSTEM . . . that allows people to see immersive 3D without glasses. Yes - Phillips has shown a glassesless 3D HDTV. So what are the reviews of this device? As compared to the LCD shutter glasses 3D system? And speaking of glasses . . . What is the title of this thread again? High Definition TV Owners Ready For 3-D TV