Toshiba's XDE DVD players won't hurt Blu-ray Disc

PFC5

See my post above this reply for what I think the current market is for SD & BD players.

To be honest, I have not tried a recent upscaler in the $75.00 range. Have you?

I am looking for basically only BD players myself at this point. Perhaps you missed my post about me not likely buying a XDE player myself. What it does is not the player I am looking for but it doesn't mean it isn't what many others are looking for.

I already have a few SD DVD players lying around that are collecting dust. I would prefer to get a BD player with excellent upscaling capability, but from what I have read, most of the reasonably priced BD players are short on upscaling ability. Any such BD player MUST decode the HD audio formats (incl. DTS HD MA) since I am NOT replacing my HDMI receiver again. I have no problem waiting for such a BD player with excellent upscaling for around $200.00 or less myself. It would be great if it also plays SACD/DVD-Audio also and then I can throw the Samsung HD841, which is only used for that, in the closet again as a backup.

I can wait for this pricing to happen now that I already have the two most important rooms covered. I figure in about a year I will be buying such a player. I may be looking for 2 cheapo BD players for two of the kids rooms, or i will end up waiting and move my sharp to one of the kid's rooms in a year when I buy an new higher end but cheaper BD player for a main room.

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Loves2Watch

I don't think you will see that anytime soon especially since the SACD and DVD-Audio formats are considered dead. A Blu ray universal player would be only for a niche market, if manufactured and quite costly as well one would assume.

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hatt

I'm confident the Oppo player will be SA-CD/DVD-A capable. Not at $200 however. Simply adding BD to the 980H and selling it for $300-$350 would be a compelling product. Don't know if that is what will play out.

PFC5

I am probably going to be looking at the Oppo when it comes out and I may be forced to pay more than $200.00 at that point. My son has one year before he takes his PS3 from the main HT room to his dorm at college so I have that time line to replace it. I just hope I can get a reasonably prices BD player with what I described for around $200.00 even if I have to keep the current SACD/DVD-Audio player for the music.

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Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs)
All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr)
Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35
For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841
Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS
RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+
SA 3250HD
47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom)
Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support)
Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers
The_Cable_Game
Take the high ground and be happier

Loves2Watch

If they actually did that I'd have one in a heartbeat.

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Lee Stewart

So Oppo - a premier builder of quality UP DVD players . . .

Is going to be building bargin basement BD players with their technology?

Loves2Watch

Why not? Their upscalers are very good.

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hatt

Pretty much. That is Oppo's mission. Offer a whole lot for a very reasonable price. Compare the XDE with the 980H. Probably very little different in the PQ and for $19 you get the USB, SA-CD, DVD-A, Divx, Xvid, HDCD, 7.1 analog out, and so on.

Do you have a link showing this isn't what they are going to be doing are are in fact going after Denon's market of selling $1000 products?

Waiting on the link.

Lee Stewart

THAT's the point.

It's like Caddilac making economy cars. I think they tried that once before - and it failed miserably.

If your name is associated with a high quality product - then new products will also match.

If Oppo released a BD player - it would be priced somewheres between $599 and $799 . . . . NOT $350.

railven

Oh, I know this one! Being a former Cadillac Owner and brand fan.

It was the mid-90's Catera. It was marketed as an economy luxury car, but that ticked off a lot of the Cadillac Owners claiming they were making a mockery of the brand. Anyways, the car was still priced too high to compete with economy cars and due to its lack of features even the luxury enthusiasts turned away from it.

Put a gap of a few years, kill the old "Camry" like look, assissinate the marketing duck and pretty much reinvent the wheel and the new Cadillac Catera's are Cadillac's mainstream cruiser. They've officially axed the STS (I cried...) and are moving to redesign the Deville into some Performance monster.

hatt

FUD alert!
Please provide links. Oppo built one of the best DVD players ever for $400, besting players that cost 5 times as much but now they are only going to sell BD players to the high-end market.
FUD alert!

Lee Stewart

FUD ALERT!

Thank you Hatt for making my point!

hatt

I guess we will have to wait and see. Since you have yet to be right about ANYTHING discussed in this forum the odds would seem to be in your favor that you would book a winner at some point, but I doubt it will happen with this one. The Oppo will come in at under $500, take that to the bank, quote it, whatever you want.

Lee Stewart

So their newest UP DVD player is $399 . . .

But you are POSITIVE that their BD player will be $499?

Oh - I also disagree with you. I was 100% dead on . . . about YOU Hatt.

hatt

Do you understand that Oppo has other players for less than half the price of the 983? And that the 983 is their flagship product? And that common name brand BD players will be under $300 when the Oppo is launched? If they added BD capability to a 983 type product it would be more expensive than $500 but I don't see them coming out of the gate with such a thing. Look for a 980H type product with BD capability at a price of around $400 or less. Sorry about the bad news for you.