Why did HD DVD lose the Format War!!!

Lee Stewart · 07-23-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vikingfan

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6579661.html

"Although Blu-ray titles are sold at a hefty premium to standard DVD, consumers believe BD is a relative deal compared to other leisure options, say studios. That is reflected in BD spending north of $200 million year-to-date through June, up about 300% from the same 2007 frame."

That would mean more than $200m but less than $300m. Funny how you keep stating $200 mil as fact.

$210 million is ALSO "north" of $200 million.

vikingfan · 07-23-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

$210 million is ALSO "north" of $200 million.

So is $272m, see how easy.

Dare · 07-23-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjLancer

You forgot one more. By the most conservative estimates, Blu Ray is still on its way to surpass DVD in a similiar period in time.
http://www.dvdinformation.com/News/press/CES010807.htm

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YEAR DVD SALES
1999 $0.7

What does 1999 correspond to in your analogy? 2007?

$0.7 in billions is $700 million, or 3.5 times all the money made by Blu-ray in 2008.

Lee Stewart · 07-23-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vikingfan

So is $272m, see how easy.

Yes but why say "north of" as opposed to saying $272 million.

Which is more impressive?

ssjLancer · 07-23-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Oh - you just quoted it for fun!

With your name on the post.

OK.

Ok so you want my opinion on the subject. Ok Ill give it to you but now you cant say 'who cares about what you think'

For new products sales in the 3rd and 4th quarter are always around 250% higher than they are in the first half of the year. So yes I do think Blu Ray will makes sales of 500 million in the 2nd half.

ssjLancer · 07-23-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare

What does 1999 correspond to in your analogy? 2007?

2 years after inception. Though I know it isnt fair since Blu Ray had HDDVD to deal with.

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$0.7 in billions is $700 million, or 3.5 times all the money made by Blu-ray in 2008.

In case you didnt know. We're still in 2008

kamspy · 07-23-2008, 05:25 PM

$500 mil? That's easy. Look at what mostly crap releases came out so far this year.

We still have Transformers, The Dark Knight, Matrix Trilogy, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, and many more.

I'd say they can easily double what they've done the first six months with those titles and more.

hatt · 07-23-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare

What does 1999 correspond to in your analogy? 2007?

$0.7 in billions is $700 million, or 3.5 times all the money made by Blu-ray in 2008.

Does BD get to finish the year or we just going to add up the total now and say good enough? Universal just got into the game yesterday, they might sell something. Ironman, Transformers, Godfather, TDK, Wall-E and the rest of the big hits coming out might sell a couple of copies as well.

vikingfan · 07-23-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Yes but why say "north of" as opposed to saying $272 million.

Which is more impressive?

You'd have to ask the writer of the article, maybe they didn't have exact figures at their disposal.

scsa · 07-23-2008, 05:27 PM

Guess what Dare just because one movie made more then Blu-ray has made doesn't mean anything I mean guess what all those movies will be on Blu-ray not HD-DVD and they will help improve the numbers for Blu-ray not HD-DVD and guess what the movies made more then HD-DVD has made period while blu-ray is going to continue to make more and more money while HD-DVD is basically done making money since no more movies will be coming for it anymore.

Lee Stewart · 07-23-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vikingfan

You'd have to ask the writer of the article, maybe they didn't have exact figures at their disposal.

You mean the writer of the article spoke to Andy Parsons and asked him:

"What is the revenue number for the first six months for BD?"

And he replied:

"North of $200 million."

*sniff* . . . . something smells.

Dare · 07-23-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hatt

Does BD get to finish the year or we just going to add up the total now and say good enough? Universal just got into the game yesterday, they might sell something. Ironman, Transformers, Godfather, TDK, Wall-E and the rest of the big hits coming out might sell a couple of copies as well.

Okay, double it then. Or triple it. It still isn't that impressive. Now we're at the box office take of three movies.

ssjLancer · 07-23-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dare

Okay, double it then. Or triple it. It still isn't that impressive. Now we're at the box office take of three movies.

So matching or even surpassing the 'fastest and most successful' format (dvd) in the adoption curve isnt impressive..

hatt · 07-23-2008, 06:27 PM

I'm not understanding the problem some people are having here. The fact that BD is in DVD's ballpark with sales figures despite obstacles such as HD DVD and HDTV penetration should say something. However it seems to some to say something other than the logical answer.

Stew4HD · 07-23-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hatt

I'm not understanding the problem some people are having here. The fact that BD is in DVD's ballpark with sales figures despite obstacles such as HD DVD and HDTV penetration should say something. However it seems to some to say something other than the logical answer.

How do you figure that BD is in DVD's ballpark?

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07-23-2008, 05:25 PM	#97
kamspy Brewers lol Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 21,988	$500 mil? That's easy. Look at what mostly crap releases came out so far this year. We still have Transformers, The Dark Knight, Matrix Trilogy, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, and many more. I'd say they can easily double what they've done the first six months with those titles and more.

07-23-2008, 06:27 PM	#104
hatt HD Elitist Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: FL Age: 37 Posts: 6,294	I'm not understanding the problem some people are having here. The fact that BD is in DVD's ballpark with sales figures despite obstacles such as HD DVD and HDTV penetration should say something. However it seems to some to say something other than the logical answer.