Super Resolution Coming To DVD Players (960P)

03-05-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

We are elitist Nikopol

1080p or bust for me now, even though I only currently have a 720p/1080i TV. I intend to upgrade at the end of the year and it's nice to know I'm future proofing my movie collection for the very forseeable future.

Have updated my user title accordingly....

I have also decided, that my next hardware upgrade will concern the audio and i will keep my 720p pj for just a little while longer. I want to take better advantage of all the great audio tracks.

iDarren · 03-05-2008, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Did you look at the side by side images from the last link I posted?

You see any difference?

Keep in mind we are discussing moving images - not static images like photos.

Of course I see a difference, a difference between a really low quality still image and a cleaned up version of it. But that isn't comparing SD material to true natively HD material.

iDarren · 03-05-2008, 04:01 AM

I'm already upconverting standard def onto a 80 inch screen, and with reasonably good standard def source material my existing equipment does a brilliant job and looks GREAT, so I can't see the great big deal about this new Toshiba technology. What will Joe6Pack get with it on his 36 inch TV that will make it worthwhile if my current upconverter makes it unnessecary for me on an 80 inch screen?

PFC5 · 03-05-2008, 04:03 AM

I don't think there is a problem discussing another tech that might hurt the adoption & mass market ability of the BD format. Sure some are talking like this will make BD moot, and it MIGHT for many people who do not care about HD audio too. Everyone keeps telling me that HD audio is not any where near as important as PQ, but it is to me, and maybe even more so.

I owned my sound system long before I even owned a HDTV, because SQ mattered more and got me "into" a movie more than PQ.

I think it IS possible that SR upscaling could hurt BD adoption and keep it niche. Others think not, and they are entitled to their opinion too. Just because we discuss it and i think this new tech might hurt BD doesn't mean I do not like HDM or want it to fail. It just means I am being a realist from what I see.

Time will tell how this plays out but it will likely be 9+ months before you know a lot more about this tech and how it could possibly play the spoiler for BD at that time.

Stew4HD · 03-05-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hatt

You caught me Stew, I'm just so scared right now. I just can't stop the hate. I know this new vaporware tech is the way in the to go in the future, but I just can't help myself from thinking that something that is superior in every way other than playing legacy discs and available now is somehow better.

I just love getting your hackles up! As other have said, you see this this as BD or bust (black and white).

I don't.

It seems to me that you are the one saying that WE are saying this tech is better than HDM.

Story of the day:
OMG, I can't watch this shit! It's only UC SD! It will hurt my eyes and ears! Maybe one day, BD will release this one.. I'll just wait cuz if it ain't 1080p and lossless... it ain't ever gonna be seen on my screen, in fact, I am just gonna throw this POS away!

iDarren · 03-05-2008, 04:19 AM

there's a lot of hate in this thread

Stew4HD · 03-05-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by iDarren

there's a lot of hate in this thread

Any thread that seems to "compete" with BD turns this way... kind of like it has always been since I joined...

too much like "join BD or shut up and go away" attitudes on here now which causes the opposite affect!

MikeRox · 03-05-2008, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD

I just love getting your hackles up! As other have said, you see this this as BD or bust (black and white).

I don't.

It seems to me that you are the one saying that WE are saying this tech is better than HDM.

Story of the day:
OMG, I can't watch this shit! It's only UC SD! It will hurt my eyes and ears! Maybe one day, BD will release this one.. I'll just wait cuz if it ain't 1080p and lossless... it ain't ever gonna be seen on my screen, in fact, I am just gonna throw this POS away!

I watched SD at the weekend, my eyes started bleeding so I had to turn it off.

Lee Stewart · 03-05-2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HiramAbiff

Can you cite a source? I think the people who have hundreds or thousands of titles must be throwing off this average, I'd be more interested in the mean. Most people I know who own DVD players do not own many, if any. They primarily rent.

I know *one* couple who owns about 400 (by her count) and a guy at work with "over a thousand titles" (mainly anime).

The source is NPD Group. It was stated last month in an article.

That is only 8 DVD's per year as DVD is 10 (now almost 11 years old)

Lee Stewart · 03-05-2008, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by iDarren

there's a lot of hate in this thread

Yes - and unrealistic expectations of BD as a delivery system of HD content.

Stew4HD · 03-05-2008, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

I watched SD at the weekend, my eyes started bleeding so I had to turn it off.

But, Mike.. what about your hearing? Has the ringing stopped? I received an spam email yesterday from a company claiming that they have a solution for ringing of the ears (tinnitus).. viagra!

Sorry about the eyes Mike I should learn to be more sympathetic

iDarren · 03-05-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Yes - and unrealistic expectations of BD as a delivery system of HD content.

From who? Most people interested in Blu (including ex-HD DVD supporters) are being fairly realistic about it IMO.

iDarren · 03-05-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD

viagra!

I heard viagra can make you go blind!

Lee Stewart · 03-05-2008, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by iDarren

From who? Most people interested in Blu (including ex-HD DVD supporters) are being fairly realistic about it IMO.

Are they?

How many feel that BD will replace DVD? THAT is being unrealistic.

iDarren · 03-05-2008, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Are they?

How many feel that BD will replace DVD? THAT is being unrealistic.

Given we are talking about THIS thread, very few to none.

03-05-2008, 04:01 AM	#258
iDarren Hi-Def Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,227	I'm already upconverting standard def onto a 80 inch screen, and with reasonably good standard def source material my existing equipment does a brilliant job and looks GREAT, so I can't see the great big deal about this new Toshiba technology. What will Joe6Pack get with it on his 36 inch TV that will make it worthwhile if my current upconverter makes it unnessecary for me on an 80 inch screen? __________________ www.bogieonline.com www.mcqueenonline.com

03-05-2008, 04:03 AM	#259
PFC5 Former Super Moderator - RIP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 38,295	I don't think there is a problem discussing another tech that might hurt the adoption & mass market ability of the BD format. Sure some are talking like this will make BD moot, and it MIGHT for many people who do not care about HD audio too. Everyone keeps telling me that HD audio is not any where near as important as PQ, but it is to me, and maybe even more so. I owned my sound system long before I even owned a HDTV, because SQ mattered more and got me "into" a movie more than PQ. I think it IS possible that SR upscaling could hurt BD adoption and keep it niche. Others think not, and they are entitled to their opinion too. Just because we discuss it and i think this new tech might hurt BD doesn't mean I do not like HDM or want it to fail. It just means I am being a realist from what I see. Time will tell how this plays out but it will likely be 9+ months before you know a lot more about this tech and how it could possibly play the spoiler for BD at that time. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier PSN: PFC5

03-05-2008, 04:19 AM	#261
iDarren Hi-Def Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,227	there's a lot of hate in this thread __________________ www.bogieonline.com www.mcqueenonline.com

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