Here's the thing about HDM. . .

mobiushky

Ok, again, we are not disagreeing, but you are telling me stuff I already know. When I said "The fcc mandated..." I admit I oversimplified. Ok, WAY oversimplified. I know the FCC did not mandate HDTV. What I meant was that the FCC mandated that digital tuners be included with every set that had an analog tuner that was sold after March 1, 2007. Notice that it does not apply sets without tuners (monitors). Anyway, my point was that while they are still making SDtv, the thrust of the manufacturers has certainly shifted over to HDtv's with the advent of the mandated digital tuners. I see your point about the way I posted that statement. I was rushing a bit and didn't think it through. Hey, it made sense in my head!! LOL.

But even still, I believe that the mis-perception that a person "needs an HDTV" will drive a lot of people to buy HDtv's this year. Even if they don't need them.

Anecdotal: My mother in law. She bought one because she called me and told me she needed a new TV and had to get an HDtv so she could watch tv after the switch. I tried like anything to explain that she did not even need a new TV, but she wouldn't listen. So she called again and asked about some wal-mart deal (I think it was a Visio) and wanted to know if it would work with the new "HDTV" signals. I tried again to explain, but she again wouldn't listen so I finally told her yes, go ahead and buy it. Then, seriously, not 3 months later she's calling me to see if she should fill out the forms to get the $50 set-top converter for her tv since she doesn't want to "not be able to watch tv." After another pointless explanation I finally just told her yes, get it. Sometimes it's just not worth the argument.....

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kamspy

My ADD is really kcikin today fellas.

Anyone do me a quick Cliff Notes on this thread?

Jed

mobiushky,
In between our posts, my neighbor across the street called me to look at what was wrong with the picture on their new hdtv they just got. Well here is what I walked into. A 40 inch samsung 1080p hdtv with a cheap dvd player hooked up with composite cables and a pan and scan dvd playing on stretch mode. I told them first your going to need a different player like a upconverter or said they can get an A3 from amazon for $128, and a hdmi cable for about $30 from sears where they bought the tv from. The husband was getting pissed especially about the cost of the cable. But when I mentioned that they would be better off replacing their SD pan and scans for SD widescreen dvds, the husband said F%*# this and unplugged the tv with out even turning it off and disconected everything and took it back to sears for his money back. Their going back to analog and its all over SD dvds. So much for the HD DVD vs Blu-ray arguement that people are going to make the step up. These people didn't even want to change from SD pan and scans to SD widescreen dvds.

kamspy

HDMI cables suck. Steer him towards one of the $5 ones on Amazon next time.

1st day electronics class: Digital is digital is digital. On or off. No grey area possible. People don't understand this about HDMI, it is not an analog signal! It does not require much shielding whatsoever! The best and worst HDMI cable produce the same information to the device it is sending it too.

The $100 HDMI cable is the single biggest rip off in the history of mainstream CE. I pay no more than $10 shipped. The only restriction is length. I believe it is 5 meters or 15 feet for those of us on the idiot system I live in the U.S., but that measurement system is just hilarious, research the history of each unit. I think the english "pound" is was the measurement of some old kings dump or something and decided to make it scientific law. Really sad, and way Sorry.

Jed

Kamspy,
This J6P had their cable going into their vcr and then had one of them push on cables going from the vcr to their hdtv. They thought that they were going to record hd on their vcr like they always did with analog. He kind of didn't understand the concept of hdmi and digital let alone the cost of hdmi cables. Their dvd player didn't even have composite outputs on it. He really got pissed at the thought that he had to replace all their pan and scans dvds for widescreens dvds. After this episode I'm kind of laughing at WB saying that J6P is confused about HD DVD and Blu-ray. This J6P didn't even know what HDM was. And as I said he took the tv back and got it removed from his credit card. He's back on analog tv.

Jed

I ment to say component instead of composite in my last post as I couldn't edit it.