M$'s CES press conference link

gallandro · 01-06-2008, 10:16 PM

Amir from MS pretty much let the cat out of the bag a couple of days ago. On AVS he was asked about the HD-DVD virtual developer tool MS had created for the 360. He was specifically asked if HDi could work online. He verified it could, and speculated in the future you could see "virtual" DVDs complete with menus, bonus features, etc.

Yancy

PS At this point I have NO doubt MS will broker a deal to manufacture an Add-On Blu-Ray player for the 360. They have absolutely nothing to lose.

Cygnus · 01-06-2008, 10:16 PM

And its not like the DLC is exclusive. I am sure PSN will have access to sony movie downloads for PS3. amazon and itunes prob have access to the sony media as well.

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Originally Posted by ClashFan

I'm kind of curious why Disney and Sony would sell these like that? Sure, for $, but might doing so hurt BD sales, unless they don't really plan to release those on BD any time soon?

BiggNewt · 01-06-2008, 10:18 PM

If Microsoft is so interested in the success of HD DVD, why wouldn't they throw money around to secure studios for HD DVD? They do it for downloads. I know the answer just a rhetorical thought.

gallandro · 01-06-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggNewt

If Microsoft is so interested in the success of HD DVD, why wouldn't they throw money around to secure studios for HD DVD? They do it for downloads. I know the answer just a rhetorical thought.

I think MS was more interested in getting in the door with VC-1 and HDi than they cared about HD-DVD specifically. Just look at the Paramount move, MS offered no cash and gave no incentives to Paramount to make their jump, it was all Toshiba.

MS cares about MS and their shareholders, not a disc format.

Yancy

BiggNewt · 01-06-2008, 10:24 PM

Agreed.

MikeRox · 01-06-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gallandro

I think MS was more interested in getting in the door with VC-1 and HDi than they cared about HD-DVD specifically. Just look at the Paramount move, MS offered no cash and gave no incentives to Paramount to make their jump, it was all Toshiba.

MS cares about MS and their shareholders, not a disc format.

Yancy

MS looks out for MS, it's business, the BDA were only looking out for themselves with the Warner deal too.

I suspect Microsoft developed that 360 based HD DVD emulation software (for the HDi testing etc) more for doing virtual HD DVD downloads via the marketplace, for permanant ownership of content or some crap.

That'll come in more for the PC end of the market though.

gallandro · 01-06-2008, 10:34 PM

Well said MikeRox!

Yancy

Cygnus · 01-06-2008, 10:35 PM

I mentioned earlier that M$ is more like an LLP (limited liability partner) with HD-DVD. While they have a weighted interest in HD-DVD, it still is toshiba's technology. As we saw during the press conference, M$ has many big business interests occurring simultaneously. I am sure M$ helped toshiba and HD-DVD financially, but there is only so much they will spend.

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Originally Posted by gallandro

I think MS was more interested in getting in the door with VC-1 and HDi than they cared about HD-DVD specifically. Just look at the Paramount move, MS offered no cash and gave no incentives to Paramount to make their jump, it was all Toshiba.

MS cares about MS and their shareholders, not a disc format.

Yancy

Cygnus · 01-06-2008, 10:44 PM

True. And one of the techs M$ mentioned is connecting HP PCs to HDTVs. It makes more sense to download movies to vista based PCs with its easily upgradeable storage than a game console. Supposedly wireless hardware will be announced at CES that will allow HD devices to connect wirelessly to HDTV.

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

MS looks out for MS, it's business, the BDA were only looking out for themselves with the Warner deal too.

I suspect Microsoft developed that 360 based HD DVD emulation software (for the HDi testing etc) more for doing virtual HD DVD downloads via the marketplace, for permanant ownership of content or some crap.

That'll come in more for the PC end of the market though.

01-06-2008, 10:16 PM	#16
gallandro Format neutral Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 42 Posts: 287	Amir from MS pretty much let the cat out of the bag a couple of days ago. On AVS he was asked about the HD-DVD virtual developer tool MS had created for the 360. He was specifically asked if HDi could work online. He verified it could, and speculated in the future you could see "virtual" DVDs complete with menus, bonus features, etc. Yancy PS At this point I have NO doubt MS will broker a deal to manufacture an Add-On Blu-Ray player for the 360. They have absolutely nothing to lose. __________________ HD-DVD: 55 BD: 57 I've got one red lens and one blue lens! DUDE IT'S 3D!!!!!

01-06-2008, 10:18 PM	#18
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01-06-2008, 10:24 PM	#20
BiggNewt High on Definition Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,423	Agreed. __________________ Panasonic TC-P46G10 Plasma HDTV Samsung LN-T4061F 1080p HDTV Panasonic CT26WX15 CRT HDTV Onkyo TX-SR604 7.1 HDMI Receiver Optimus Mach Three Front Speakers Sony SS-CN5000 Center Speaker Sony SS-B1000 Surround Speakers (7.1) Sony SA-W3000 180W Subwoofer Sony PS3 (60gig w/ Linux installed) XBox 360 Premium Sony PS2 (160gig HDD, Messiah Pro 2 Modchip) Phillips DVP642 Divx/PAL DVD Player ViP 722k DVR Dual-Tuner 500GB

01-06-2008, 10:34 PM	#22
gallandro Format neutral Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 42 Posts: 287	Well said MikeRox! Yancy __________________ HD-DVD: 55 BD: 57 I've got one red lens and one blue lens! DUDE IT'S 3D!!!!!

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