Blu-Ray Scores Big in Format War, But It Ain't Over Despite Money and Exaggeration

**kamspy** · 01-17-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

HD DVD is the better format. Keep supporting HD DVD

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It is also the best DVD up-Converter, does a better job than any BD player

Any?

Pioneer Elite?
Marantz?
Denon?

Toshiba?

Since when did Toshiba become a CE powerhouse. Before this mess their stuff was budget level gear at best

BobY · 01-17-2008, 12:11 PM

Uhm, yes, Toshiba is a CE powerhouse and has been for decades. Just look at their sales. You may not like them as much as Pioneer or Marantz or Denon, but Toshiba dwarfs them in CE sales.

I believe Toshiba's worldwide CE sales exceeds all three of them combined.

BobY · 01-17-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRedBaron

Blu-ray does both look and sound better than hd-dvd. This is both the opinion of objective reviewers and a scientific fact based on the technical specifications of the formats. If you don't think that disc capacity and bitrate matter, then please go back to DVD and leave the rest of us alone.

You may want to read the opinions of objective industry experts whose productions have been optimized for both formats, rather than the opinions of FanBoys:

http://www.hidefpreview.com/Breaking%20News.html

**kamspy** · 01-17-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BobY

Uhm, yes, Toshiba is a CE powerhouse and has been for decades. Just look at their sales. You may not like them as much as Pioneer or Marantz or Denon, but Toshiba dwarfs them in CE sales.

I believe Toshiba's worldwide CE sales exceeds all three of them combined.

Talking about quality. Not $50 DVD players.

coyote13 · 01-17-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

Toshiba is making a profit for every player they sell. They can hit $99 and still make a profit. They do cost a lot cheaper to make vs. Blu-Ray

You mean Toshiba have been making 200% profit when the A3 were selling for 299 couple months ago? lol. What a rip off.

cbcdesign · 01-17-2008, 06:49 PM

Toshiba make some really good CE gear. Their TV's go on forever in our house and we have a Microwave they made too which is 11 years old now.

Hitachi65SWX20B · 01-17-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRedBaron

I'd say that because Toshiba were already having to offload players at a loss in some instances and at cost in most others even before the Warner decision, they were already on "life support". Warner ended it IMO.

Isn't the ps3 on life support too? Because they are off loading it at a loss also! A major one at that too. It's DEAD last in the console race and only sold a mear 49633 consoles last week while the x360 even out sold the Wii at 80467 consoles. The highest place any ps3 game sold is 31st place the week While the x360 has 5 out of the top 10 games sold for the week. There is no "warner" type news for the ps3 like HD DVD got, So why is it DEAD last again and being off loaded at a huge loss!
HA HA, I just crunched some numbers there on the weekly totals, x360 out sold ps3 by a ratio of 1.6:1
isn't that was blue was selling over HD DVD before the warner announcement and the blue brigade was calling HD DVD dead because the movie ratio was rounded off to 2:1 blue?

BobY · 01-17-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

Talking about quality. Not $50 DVD players.

In the eye of the beholder.

If Toshiba's stuff is such junk, why do they thoroughly and consistently outsell the other companies you listed?

The_Omega_Man · 01-17-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Love That TV

sorry bro, i just took my HD-DVD player back and this is all i see now!

Man it sucks to be you!

J/K

The_Omega_Man · 01-17-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

Any?

Pioneer Elite?
Marantz?
Denon?

Toshiba?

Since when did Toshiba become a CE powerhouse. Before this mess their stuff was budget level gear at best

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/fea...xa2-page3.html

**kamspy** · 01-17-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BobY

In the eye of the beholder.

If Toshiba's stuff is such junk, why do they thoroughly and consistently outsell the other companies you listed?

Easy, they cost less.

What would you rather have.

A Toshiba DF player or a Marantz?

The_Omega_Man · 01-17-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

Easy, they cost less.

What would you rather have.

A Toshiba DF player or a Marantz?

At this point I would honestly have to say the Toshiba! At least I know that it will not be released to the public without it working correctly and ALL of it's specifications complete!

**kamspy** · 01-17-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Omega_Man

At this point I would honestly have to say the Toshiba! At least I know that it will not be released to the public without it working correctly and ALL of it's specifications complete!

The Marantz is 2.0

Your avatar is cool

jnester74 · 01-17-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRedBaron

I'd say that because Toshiba were already having to offload players at a loss in some instances and at cost in most others even before the Warner decision, they were already on "life support". Warner ended it IMO.

For someone like you to come here after the Warner announcement and spread your crap. Gives you know credibility. According to Blu Ray HD DVD has been on life support since the beginning. GET LOST.

BobY · 01-18-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

Easy, they cost less.

What would you rather have.

A Toshiba DF player or a Marantz?

It depends on the price. Consumers don't consistently and repeatedly buy junk, even for a low price.

I don't have significantly higher regard for Marantz products. The Marantz name was purchased and they have nothing to do with the historical Marantz Company, having first been bought out by Superscope, then Philips and now are part of a holding company that also includes Denon. Toshiba, Marantz and Denon all sell products built in China.

01-17-2008, 12:11 PM	#32
BobY What's all this, then?... Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,197	Uhm, yes, Toshiba is a CE powerhouse and has been for decades. Just look at their sales. You may not like them as much as Pioneer or Marantz or Denon, but Toshiba dwarfs them in CE sales. I believe Toshiba's worldwide CE sales exceeds all three of them combined.

01-17-2008, 06:49 PM	#36
cbcdesign High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Somerset, UK Posts: 1,333	Toshiba make some really good CE gear. Their TV's go on forever in our house and we have a Microwave they made too which is 11 years old now.