HD/BD sell 57,000 SAL units on Black Friday; HD scores 62%, BD 37%

mswoods1 · 12-07-2007, 10:33 PM

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High-def hardware achieved huge Black Friday gains, but still lags behind the sales pace of standard-definition DVD players.

HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc stand-alone players sold 57,000 units during the week ended Nov. 24, the day marking the official kick-off to the holiday season. That contrasts to the 600,000 units sold of standard-def DVD players, according to market analyst DisplaySearch.

DisplaySearch released these figures during a Black Friday Webinar on Friday.

HD DVD commanded the lion’s share of unit sales for stand-alone high-def disc players, scoring a 62% unit share; Blu-ray held 37%. Due to higher price points, Blu-ray hardware cornered 52% of the revenue; HD DVD, 47%.

Paul Erickson, director of DVD and HD DVD market research at DisplaySearch, said that HD DVD’s retail pricing, which on average was 50% cheaper than Blu-ray stand-alones, spurred its Black Friday sales for the format. The most popular high-def models were Toshiba’s HD-A3, which many retailers sold for $199, and the Sony and Samsung Blu-ray players and PS3 model that sold for $399.

Each format significantly hiked its sales from week directly preceding the Black Friday frame. HD DVD unit sales jumped 454%; Blu-ray, up 189%. In revenue, HD DVD was up 272%; Blu-ray, up 176%.

Due to strong promotion around its new $399 40GB model, PlayStation 3 sold between 160,000 and 170,000 units, DisplaySearch estimates.

HD DVD might have sold more units during the Black Friday period, but the Blu-ray Disc Assn. nevertheless said it hit a new milestone—2.7 million players sold since launch—over the period. The figure encompasses both Blu-ray-capable gaming devices and Blu-ray set-top players, but the Blu-rayA declined to break down sales.

The HD DVD camp earlier said its total sales of set-top players and gaming devices reached 750,000 units following widespread holiday retail sales, notably including $99-priced players at Wal-Mart and Best Buy.

The BDA last week also trumpeted its continuing lead in Blu-ray software sales, which in the weeks leading up to Black Friday had been outpacing HD DVD titles by a two-to-one ratio. During the Black Friday period, Blu-ray titles made up 72.6% of all high-def purchases, with HD DVD totaling 27.4%, according to Nielsen/VideoScan figures cited by BDA.

According to the Blu-ray camp, total Blu-ray disc sales in the U.S. since launch topped 4 million units in November, about the same time HD DVD software sales passed just 2.5 million units.

DisplaySearch predicts Black Friday trends will continue through the rest of the year. By the end of 2007, 678,000 HD DVD stand-alones will have shipped into retail since launch, it said. Blu-ray players will have shipped 461,000 units. PS3s will stand at 2.5 million units, and Xbox 360 HD DVD drive at 270,000 units.

Keeping with previous predictions, DisplaySearch estimates that 4.76 million high-def stand-alones will have shipped to retail by year-end 2008.

Link: http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6510883.html

mswoods1 · 12-07-2007, 10:49 PM

Good to finally see some numbers, though I wonder if DisplaySearch knows anything about Wal-mart's sales figures other than estimating them using ratios of other retailers.

Anyway, some interesting parts of this article:

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HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc stand-alone players sold 57,000 units during the week ended Nov. 24

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HD DVD commanded the lion’s share of unit sales for stand-alone high-def disc players, scoring a 62% unit share; Blu-ray held 37%

This means during Black Friday week:

35,340 HD SALs were sold
21,090 BD SALs were sold
570 DF players were sold

and...

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Each format significantly hiked its sales from week directly preceding the Black Friday frame. HD DVD unit sales jumped 454%; Blu-ray, up 189%

The week before Black Friday:

7,784 HD SALs were sold
11,158 BD SALs were sold

So BD won the SAL battle the week before BF.

**kamspy** · 12-07-2007, 11:09 PM

Does that include PS3 sales?

Any informed consumer would readily pick it as the BD player of choice.

Misleading errr... stupid thread

Johnny Reb · 12-07-2007, 11:13 PM

Typical HD DVD fud. Of course they don't want to count the PS3's. They only want to count them, when talking about attachment rates. Another half truth.

Lee Stewart · 12-07-2007, 11:15 PM

Bullshit!

The Register: U.S. HD DVD Player Sales Pass 750,000

Three-quarters of a million Americans now own a dedicated HD DVD player or Xbox 360 add-on drive, the HD DVD Promotional Group said.

To date, 750,000 HD DVD devices have been sold in North America, the organisation said, citing "retailer reports and other point of sale data". It pointed to busy post-Thanksgiving purchasing as one of the reasons for the growth in sales of HD DVD kit.

Seven months ago, in April, the HD DVD Promotional Group announced that hardware sales had passed the 100,000 mark - a year after the first players went on sale. By June, the total had risen to just 150,000. So, two months to increase 50 per cent, then five months to increase by 400 per cent.

http://www.dvdforum.org/press-newsdigest.htm

Johnny Reb · 12-07-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Bullshit!

Your right, it's bullshit, that they don't want to add the 40GB PS3 that sold briskly, on Black Friday to the numbers. And how many PS3's were sold at the same time, Lee?

**kamspy** · 12-07-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Bullshit!

The Register: U.S. HD DVD Player Sales Pass 750,000

Three-quarters of a million Americans now own a dedicated HD DVD player or Xbox 360 add-on drive, the HD DVD Promotional Group said.

To date, 750,000 HD DVD devices have been sold in North America, the organisation said, citing "retailer reports and other point of sale data". It pointed to busy post-Thanksgiving purchasing as one of the reasons for the growth in sales of HD DVD kit.

Seven months ago, in April, the HD DVD Promotional Group announced that hardware sales had passed the 100,000 mark - a year after the first players went on sale. By June, the total had risen to just 150,000. So, two months to increase 50 per cent, then five months to increase by 400 per cent.

http://www.dvdforum.org/press-newsdigest.htm

Dude Lee,

You cannot really believe everything you post. Who in their right mind, would buy any other BD player? For the price, you get a full spec BD player, a gaming system with thousands of playable games, and internet browser, a digital download feature for movies (out in japan, coming soon to the U.S.) SACD player, great upscaling DVD player (cept for the damn region lock, damn you region locks!), a great photo viewer, and an all around kick ass media hub. $500 is a steal for this piece of hardware. Buy one Lee, than sing that tune. After watching Close Encounters, you may sing a different one.

anythingwt · 12-07-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

For the price, you get a full spec BD player, a gaming system with thousands of playable games

Ummm... Since when does the PS3 have thousands of playable games??

**kamspy** · 12-07-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by anythingwt

Ummm... Since when does the PS3 have thousands of playable games??

Note that I included the $500 price point.
PS2 and PS1 and PS3 games all play.

Savvy?

chipvideo · 12-07-2007, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

Dude Lee,

You cannot really believe everything you post. Who in their right mind, would buy any other BD player? For the price, you get a full spec BD player, a gaming system with thousands of playable games, and internet browser, a digital download feature for movies (out in japan, coming soon to the U.S.) SACD player, great upscaling DVD player (cept for the damn region lock, damn you region locks!), a great photo viewer, and an all around kick ass media hub. $500 is a steal for this piece of hardware. Buy one Lee, than sing that tune. After watching Close Encounters, you may sing a different one.

Why would anyone want another computer in the house? People dont want computers in their living room. They want a SAL.

Too many eggs in one basket. When something breaks your out of movie viewing for a long time.

ALso its a dam PLAYstation. You can buy them at a Toy store. Its a TOY.

chipvideo · 12-07-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

Note that I included the $500 price point.
PS2 and PS1 and PS3 games all play.

Savvy?

Do you think my parents and neibors care less about video games?

I played lots of video games until I was about 18. Then I grew up.

**kamspy** · 12-07-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chipvideo

Why would anyone want another computer in the house? People dont want computers in their living room. They want a SAL.

Too many eggs in one basket. When something breaks your out of movie viewing for a long time.

ALso its a dam PLAYstation. You can buy them at a Toy store. Its a TOY.

Lame. It PLAYS movies doesn't it.

And what is the failure rate, like 0.02%?

You my are not smart.

**kamspy** · 12-07-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chipvideo

Do you think my parents and neibors care less about video games?

I played lots of video games until I was about 18. Then I grew up.

You have been nominated for douchebag of the universe, south park needs to see this guy.

chipvideo · 12-07-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

Lame. It PLAYS movies doesn't it.

And what is the failure rate, like 0.02%?

You my are not smart.

I have one dude. It isn't all they hype that they made it to be. Get over it. You must make a living selling them. I see this all day long. People touting the POS3 like it is the best thing since sliced bread. Well its not the best hdm player anymore. It cant pass the advanced audio bitstream. It cant either as the hdmi chip is not spec'd to do it.

Keep on believing Sony and their propitary stuff. They are getting worse each year in the optical format SAL. I have had Sony dvd players since the beginning and I noticed that they are not what they used to be. They are to cheap to use better technology and license it because of GREED.

Lee Stewart · 12-07-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kamspy

You have been nominated for douchebag of the universe, south park needs to see this guy.

I guess I didn't tell you the rules here did I Kam?

We do not condone personal attacks on members. Please remember that.

Attack the post - not the poster.

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12-07-2007, 11:09 PM	#3
kamspy Esteban Moderatoro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati,OH Good Posts: 12 Posts: 12,874	Does that include PS3 sales? Any informed consumer would readily pick it as the BD player of choice. Misleading errr... stupid thread

12-07-2007, 11:13 PM	#4
Johnny Reb My Capital Is Richmond VA Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 54	Typical HD DVD fud. Of course they don't want to count the PS3's. They only want to count them, when talking about attachment rates. Another half truth.

12-07-2007, 11:15 PM	#5
Lee Stewart Behold - the future! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 58 Posts: 25,181	Bullshit! The Register: U.S. HD DVD Player Sales Pass 750,000 Three-quarters of a million Americans now own a dedicated HD DVD player or Xbox 360 add-on drive, the HD DVD Promotional Group said. To date, 750,000 HD DVD devices have been sold in North America, the organisation said, citing "retailer reports and other point of sale data". It pointed to busy post-Thanksgiving purchasing as one of the reasons for the growth in sales of HD DVD kit. Seven months ago, in April, the HD DVD Promotional Group announced that hardware sales had passed the 100,000 mark - a year after the first players went on sale. By June, the total had risen to just 150,000. So, two months to increase 50 per cent, then five months to increase by 400 per cent. http://www.dvdforum.org/press-newsdigest.htm