"the rumor is" WB is going Blu?

brianh · 12-07-2007, 02:06 AM

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...eek+exclusives

Well well...

The plot thickens.

Maybe hd dvd isn't selling well enough.

Maybe the software sales ARE impressing WB.

*thinking I might need to buy a ps3 sooner rather then later*

MikeRox · 12-07-2007, 02:10 AM

Interesting, I do have to question it though. The "rumour is" comment, where did that come from? I know it's a lionsgate rep, but where did he get it from? The rumour was Warner was going Blu the other week, after that big forum prank it's possible that alone would be a justifiable source for someone to say "the rumour is".

All I can say is I'm bloody glad I'm purple right now

PFC5 · 12-07-2007, 02:15 AM

Even that article states that Warner is looking at player sales, and that puts HD DVD well in the lead since Warner has previously stated they did not want Home video in the hands of a game console for playback.

Time will tell but I am sure that this "rumor is" stated by a BD only studio exec will make the BD fans happy even if the rumor originated in BD's own mind.

brianh · 12-07-2007, 02:18 AM

Well if the ps3 is going to be 2.0 compatible soon, then that will make it much more viable.

And that alone could sway WB.

If WB goes Blu, hd dvd will die.

Somehow I get the impression that the Lionsgate rep wasn't reading Blu-ray .com when he said that

Business week has a LITTLE more credibility then that.

Man, that will CRUSH so many people who just bought hd dvd players.
I've gotten myself ready for it tho.
I want WB to go hd dvd, but I've seen it as it can go either way'. I used to think it was inevitable that WB would go hd dvd, but I don't think that anymore.

At this point, I just want them to pick a side. STOP being neutral!
That party is OVER.

siccivic420 · 12-07-2007, 02:21 AM

That all makes a lot of sense. I can see this all becoming one-sided after blu-ray gets warner. We shall see.

brianh · 12-07-2007, 02:21 AM

The only thing that really BOTHERS me about them going Blu is all the snotty rich spoiled brats who will be so happy.

One of the reasons I want WB to go hd dvd is b/c those MORONS would have to lose. Just to spite them.
There's something satisfying to me to see rich spoiled snot nosed kids NOT get what they want.

PFC5 · 12-07-2007, 02:35 AM

Well if (still a HUGE IF) Warner did choose BD that would stall me from buying HD media for a while. My son wants to take the PS3 to his bedroom now that he has the HDTV I gave him. I will not buy another PS3 and I will not buy a standalone BD player until it is profile 2.0 and the price comes down to under $250.00 at this point.

How many people will just not buy any BD player because the price is too high. It may get some people waiting for something like this to buy, but it will stop a couple of customer buying levels to even consider HDM for another year or two also.

Chris Gerhard · 12-07-2007, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFC5

Even that article states that Warner is looking at player sales, and that puts HD DVD well in the lead since Warner has previously stated they did not want Home video in the hands of a game console for playback.

Time will tell but I am sure that this "rumor is" stated by a BD only studio exec will make the BD fans happy even if the rumor originated in BD's own mind.

If they are looking at player sales or software sales to determine the decision, the choice will be Blu. This is just a rumor but for everybody that wants HD disc to find a market, this is a very hopeful rumor. This shows that the PS3 is now at 6.73 million worldwide:

http://www.vgchartz.com/

Choose a format with under 1 million players worldwide or choose a format with over 7 million players worldwide, hmm. Tough choice?

Chris

Chris Gerhard · 12-07-2007, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianh

The only thing that really BOTHERS me about them going Blu is all the snotty rich spoiled brats who will be so happy.

One of the reasons I want WB to go hd dvd is b/c those MORONS would have to lose. Just to spite them.
There's something satisfying to me to see rich spoiled snot nosed kids NOT get what they want.

This is so silly. Having only one format works best. From the start only one of these two formats had adequate support within the industry to prevail. Sure HD DVD has been able to scuttle HD disc by confusing the market, but I don't understand why so many people want that. With things as they are, HD DVD can limp along indefinitely and trip Blu-ray everytime it tries to take a step, but that isn't what I want.

Chris

Chris Gerhard · 12-07-2007, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFC5

Well if (still a HUGE IF) Warner did choose BD that would stall me from buying HD media for a while. My son wants to take the PS3 to his bedroom now that he has the HDTV I gave him. I will not buy another PS3 and I will not buy a standalone BD player until it is profile 2.0 and the price comes down to under $250.00 at this point.

How many people will just not buy any BD player because the price is too high. It may get some people waiting for something like this to buy, but it will stop a couple of customer buying levels to even consider HDM for another year or two also.

We don't know yet how many people won't buy Blu-ray if only Blu-ray exists. What we do know is how many people won't buy HD DVD regardless of low prices and final specifications as long as two formats exist and that number is gigantic.

Chris

12-07-2007, 02:47 AM

Just the usual Warner rumor for this week.....

If they have set a measureable goal they might pin any decision on (for example hardware or software sales numbers to meet), i would think they will want to include the complete december. And since imo many BD / HD DVD players will be under the christmas tree, they might even want to wait for the results of the first quarter 2008 to see the effects of these players.

But speculating is fun

brianh · 12-07-2007, 02:54 AM

lol Calm down fanboy Chris!

PFC5 is exactly right. The only way people are going to buy bl-ray players (non-fanboys) are when the prices come down.

Like to around $100-150. Above that, forget mass acceptance.
Even for your beloved blu format.

I've read so many ps3 threads where the people who bought them were PISSED at Sony for including blu-ray in the machine.
They knew all along what Sony was up to, trying to trojan horse blu-ray into the mainstream like that. And it drove up the cost. They had to pay $400-600 for what? A movie format they DO NOT WANT.
I'm just telling you what non blu-ray fanboys say.

And the attach rate bears that out. Blu ray movies sales should be 10:1 Chris, you know that, you just won't admit it.

80% of ps3 owners don't know about the blu-ray format.
And then you have all these guys saying blu-ray will CRUSH hd dvd b/c of the ps3. I mean you aren't trying to be funny, but you are anyway.

BUT...if the ps3 has 2.0 profile soon THAT is a game changer.
And eventually the prices of these players will go down.......eventually.
Sony has gotten a HUGE kick in the ass from hd dvd.
And like all competition, when it kicks your ass, you gotta respond or go away.

You don't agree that Sony has gotten a HUGE kick in the ass?
Uh, the price of the ps3 is now $399. The price of the cheapest blu player is $399. They used to be $1000!
No, no pressure there....

Toshiba does a great sales move, Sony backers dismiss it as desperation. Then Sony copies Toshiba's strategy. Again,

This format war has gone on long enough. It's been crazy, but it's also given me alot of laughs.

Super XP · 12-07-2007, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

If they are looking at player sales or software sales to determine the decision, the choice will be Blu. This is just a rumor but for everybody that wants HD disc to find a market, this is a very hopeful rumor. This shows that the PS3 is now at 6.73 million worldwide:

http://www.vgchartz.com/

Choose a format with under 1 million players worldwide or choose a format with over 7 million players worldwide, hmm. Tough choice?

Chris

I don't think Warner is looking at PS3 sales, they mean nothing at this point. The last thing we all need is to be forced to support Blu-Ray and their rediculously prices & profile problem SAL players. It's not consumer friendly at all, and that is what Warner is also looking at.

HD DVD already won in SAL player sales, that is what they are going to look at.

oblioman · 12-07-2007, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFC5

Even that article states that Warner is looking at player sales, and that puts HD DVD well in the lead since Warner has previously stated they did not want Home video in the hands of a game console for playback.

Time will tell but I am sure that this "rumor is" stated by a BD only studio exec will make the BD fans happy even if the rumor originated in BD's own mind.

Why would'nt Warner want home video in the hands of a game console? After all, wasn't it the PS that made it possible for millions of people to have a dvd player in there home, plus a game machine. And if such is the case, should we not throw out the xbox add on numbers?

Chris Gerhard · 12-07-2007, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

I don't think Warner is looking at PS3 sales, they mean nothing at this point. The last thing we all need is to be forced to support Blu-Ray and their rediculously prices & profile problem SAL players. It's not consumer friendly at all, and that is what Warner is also looking at.

HD DVD already won in SAL player sales, that is what they are going to look at.

Really, you know that Warner doesn't care that more people buy a PS3 to play Blu-ray than purchase an HD DVD player? HD DVD hasn't won anything, at low prices, HD DVD standalone players sell better than Blu-ray standalone players at high prices. I am not sure what that means other than no company except Toshiba wants to touch that mess and participate with losing money to offer players for sale.

Chris

12-07-2007, 02:06 AM	#1
brianh High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,023	"the rumor is" WB is going Blu? http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...eek+exclusives Well well... The plot thickens. Maybe hd dvd isn't selling well enough. Maybe the software sales ARE impressing WB. thinking I might need to buy a ps3 sooner rather then later

12-07-2007, 02:10 AM	#2
MikeRox Connoisseur of Fine Games Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 15,756	Interesting, I do have to question it though. The "rumour is" comment, where did that come from? I know it's a lionsgate rep, but where did he get it from? The rumour was Warner was going Blu the other week, after that big forum prank it's possible that alone would be a justifiable source for someone to say "the rumour is". All I can say is I'm bloody glad I'm purple right now __________________ Currently Playing: Xenoblade Chronicles, Ridge Racer 3D, DIRT 3

12-07-2007, 02:15 AM	#3
PFC5 Former Super Moderator - RIP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 38,295	Even that article states that Warner is looking at player sales, and that puts HD DVD well in the lead since Warner has previously stated they did not want Home video in the hands of a game console for playback. Time will tell but I am sure that this "rumor is" stated by a BD only studio exec will make the BD fans happy even if the rumor originated in BD's own mind. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier PSN: PFC5

12-07-2007, 02:21 AM	#5
siccivic420 HD video game god Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DENVER,colorado Posts: 416	That all makes a lot of sense. I can see this all becoming one-sided after blu-ray gets warner. We shall see. __________________ Main home theater Room [b] KURO PDP-6020 1080p[b]onkyo TX-sr875 receiver,Harmony 1000,xbox 360,Playstation 3 500gb, Emotiva ERC-1 cd player Panasonic BD35 Blu-ray player,OPPO dv-980 sacd/dvd-audio,Definitive Technology Mythos ST towers,Mythos 8 center,Mythos 1 towers and SVS pb12 ultra subLiving RoomPioneer KURO PDP-5080 768p plasma,Harmony 880,Denon 3803 receiver,Playstation 3 320gb,Axiom m60 towers ,Axiom 150,Axiom m22 bookshelfs ,Def.tech supecube reference sub Blu-ray's:66

12-07-2007, 02:35 AM	#7
PFC5 Former Super Moderator - RIP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 38,295	Well if (still a HUGE IF) Warner did choose BD that would stall me from buying HD media for a while. My son wants to take the PS3 to his bedroom now that he has the HDTV I gave him. I will not buy another PS3 and I will not buy a standalone BD player until it is profile 2.0 and the price comes down to under $250.00 at this point. How many people will just not buy any BD player because the price is too high. It may get some people waiting for something like this to buy, but it will stop a couple of customer buying levels to even consider HDM for another year or two also. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier PSN: PFC5

12-07-2007, 02:18 AM	#4
brianh High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,023	Well if the ps3 is going to be 2.0 compatible soon, then that will make it much more viable. And that alone could sway WB. If WB goes Blu, hd dvd will die. Somehow I get the impression that the Lionsgate rep wasn't reading Blu-ray .com when he said that Business week has a LITTLE more credibility then that. Man, that will CRUSH so many people who just bought hd dvd players. I've gotten myself ready for it tho. I want WB to go hd dvd, but I've seen it as it can go either way'. I used to think it was inevitable that WB would go hd dvd, but I don't think that anymore. At this point, I just want them to pick a side. STOP being neutral! That party is OVER.

12-07-2007, 02:47 AM	#11
Nikopol Guest Posts: n/a	Just the usual Warner rumor for this week..... If they have set a measureable goal they might pin any decision on (for example hardware or software sales numbers to meet), i would think they will want to include the complete december. And since imo many BD / HD DVD players will be under the christmas tree, they might even want to wait for the results of the first quarter 2008 to see the effects of these players. But speculating is fun

12-07-2007, 02:54 AM	#12
brianh High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,023	lol Calm down fanboy Chris! PFC5 is exactly right. The only way people are going to buy bl-ray players (non-fanboys) are when the prices come down. Like to around $100-150. Above that, forget mass acceptance. Even for your beloved blu format. I've read so many ps3 threads where the people who bought them were PISSED at Sony for including blu-ray in the machine. They knew all along what Sony was up to, trying to trojan horse blu-ray into the mainstream like that. And it drove up the cost. They had to pay $400-600 for what? A movie format they DO NOT WANT. I'm just telling you what non blu-ray fanboys say. And the attach rate bears that out. Blu ray movies sales should be 10:1 Chris, you know that, you just won't admit it. 80% of ps3 owners don't know about the blu-ray format. And then you have all these guys saying blu-ray will CRUSH hd dvd b/c of the ps3. I mean you aren't trying to be funny, but you are anyway. BUT...if the ps3 has 2.0 profile soon THAT is a game changer. And eventually the prices of these players will go down.......eventually. Sony has gotten a HUGE kick in the ass from hd dvd. And like all competition, when it kicks your ass, you gotta respond or go away. You don't agree that Sony has gotten a HUGE kick in the ass? Uh, the price of the ps3 is now $399. The price of the cheapest blu player is $399. They used to be $1000! No, no pressure there.... Toshiba does a great sales move, Sony backers dismiss it as desperation. Then Sony copies Toshiba's strategy. Again, This format war has gone on long enough. It's been crazy, but it's also given me alot of laughs.

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