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Old 12-03-2007, 12:45 PM   #61
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Name one. It's almost impossible to have a receiver that can't do a single form of lossless audio.
Absolute nonsense. Pioneer to name just one CE make quite a few receivers which are not capable of processing lossless audio. The ones that do are £550.00 in the UK, around $1,100.
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Absolute nonsense. Pioneer to name just one CE make quite a few receivers which are not capable of processing lossless audio. The ones that do are £550.00 in the UK, around $1,100.
That's decoding. Receiving lossless audio is pretty basic and I bet anyone here has the equipment to do it.
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That's decoding. Receiving lossless audio is pretty basic and I bet anyone here has the equipment to do it.
But 95% of the BD players (hint the PS3) owned by people do not have analog audio output, so they need a HDMI receiver to hear the lossless.
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:43 PM   #65
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But 95% of the BD players (hint the PS3) owned by people do not have analog audio output, so they need a HDMI receiver to hear the lossless.
Well, HDMI receivers are quickly becoming the standard and anyone with a standalone can use analogue outs if they have no other option.

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Well, HDMI receivers are quickly becoming the standard and anyone with a standalone can use analogue outs if they have no other option.

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I bought a new receiver a few months ago, neither of the 2 biggest CE retailers in the UK (Currys and Comet) stocked ANY HDMI receivers, let alone had them as the standard.
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I bought a new receiver a few months ago, neither of the 2 biggest CE retailers in the UK (Currys and Comet) stocked ANY HDMI receivers, let alone had them as the standard.
Well, in the US I think you can get a HDMI receiver for as cheap as $250-$300 brand new, and they're plentiful. I guess we're just ahead of you guys.
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Well, in the US I think you can get a HDMI receiver for as cheap as $250-$300 brand new, and they're plentiful. I guess we're just ahead of you guys.
Wouldn't surprise me, I ended up forking out $600 for a Panasonic, at least it looks the part and kicks out some decent noise, even if it isn't lossless
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Well, HDMI receivers are quickly becoming the standard and anyone with a standalone can use analogue outs if they have no other option.

BTW, happy belated birthday.
Thanks!

I agree that they are BECOMING the "standard" but most people (probably about 99% of them) do not have them yet. I also do not think they will be adopted very fast by most who figure if their current receiver still works, why replace it? Of course that does not include people like you or I, and many people who come to these forums, but I think it is safe to say that the majority have this attitude.

Of course all the standalone BD players have the analog outputs but that is only about 5% of BD format owners going by what we have for numbers so far. I think EVERY player on both formats (including the PS3) SHOULD have analog outputs to be the most consumer friendly they can be.
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I really like the way Panasonic & Pioneer receivers look like but in order to get Dolby TrueHD you need to spend at least $1,200+ from what I've seen.
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Well, in the US I think you can get a HDMI receiver for as cheap as $250-$300 brand new, and they're plentiful. I guess we're just ahead of you guys.
Are you sure those HDMI receivers accept audio over the HDMI inputs, or are they just "Pass-Through" for video to act as a video switcher? Certainly they must have the cheapo digital amps, unless the prices have dropped quite a bit.

Do you have a link to some that are that cheap AND allow HD audio through the HDMI input? I know a couple of people who might be interested in one at that price. Thanks!
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