Paramount states all remaining blu-ray discs will be destroyed!

**bruceames** · 11-29-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Sony will end the format war. They'll just bleed the stuck pig, HD DVD, and bleed them until they become someone's lunch!

Funny, I thought that was Toshiba's game: bleeding Sony dry.

Lee Stewart · 11-29-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Sony will end the format war. They'll just bleed the stuck pig, HD DVD, and bleed them until they become someone's lunch!

So what about the almost $3 Billion Sony has lost already? Talk about bleeding like a stuck pig!

And it doesn't end. They are STILL losing money on every PS3 sold.

So If BD is such a great format then why is Sony Subsidizing PS3's to the tune of over $200 each and why the BOGO sales?

Because that is the only way they can sell BD

PrinceLH · 11-29-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

So what about the almost $3 Billion Sony has lost already? Talk about bleeding like a stuck pig!

And it doesn't end. They are STILL losing money on every PS3 sold.

So If BD is such a great format then why is Sony Subsidizing PS3's to the tune of over $200 each and why the BOGO sales?

Because that is the only way they can sell BD

Of course it's all Sony, and Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer,......vs Toshiba, Toshiba and Toshiba. How much money did Toshiba burn to get rid of those old, obsolete A2's and A3's? Cutting edge technolgy, in wonderful 1080i! Last time I checked, a BD50 disk cost around $1.25. So where is the loss, when selling their stock at $14.99? I guess Paramount and Universal can't afford to keep up with the competition, and give the HD DUD fifedom a break in their software!

Lee Stewart · 11-29-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Of course it's all Sony, and Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer,......vs Toshiba, Toshiba and Toshiba. How much money did Toshiba burn to get rid of those old, obsolete A2's and A3's? Cutting edge technolgy, in wonderful 1080i! Last time I checked, a BD50 disk cost around $1.25. So where is the loss, when selling their stock at $14.99? I guess Paramount and Universal can't afford to keep up with the competition, and give the HD DUD fifedom a break in their software!

You just don't get do you? 92% of ALL BD players are PS3's. The CEM's mean nothing to BD's future. You could have 1 CEM or 100 - it doesn't change anything.

Last week Toshiba sold more players then ALL the BD CEM's since inception!

How pitiful is that?

No one wants the POS Crippled Blu-it-ray SAL players. The sales show it!

Madhatter · 11-29-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

You just don't get do you? 92% of ALL BD players are PS3's. The CEM's mean nothing to BD's future. You could have 1 CEM or 100 - it doesn't change anything.

Last week Toshiba sold more players then ALL the BD CEM's since inception!

Got any links to support this stuff your saying?

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No one wants the POS Crippled Blu-it-ray SAL players. The sales show it!

Ironic that with all those Toshiba/Venturer/RCA/Onkyo/XBox players out there, you still can't seem to do squat in the weekly sales ratings. Oh yeah, Walmart doesn't get counted. That's the reason why the shitty sales figures for the red side.

Lee Stewart · 11-29-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

Got any links to support this stuff your saying?

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6505633.html

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/12012.cfm

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6505330.html

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Ironic that with all those Toshiba/Venturer/RCA/Onkyo/XBox players out there, you still can't seem to do squat in the weekly sales ratings. Oh yeah, Walmart doesn't get counted. That's the reason why the shitty sales figures for the red side.

LMFAO!

You had a 6 to 1 advantage in players - yet the best you can do is less than a 2 to 1 sales ratio? With how many BOGO's now?

Sorry gutless - you make no sense.

daleb · 11-29-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Cutting edge technolgy, in wonderful 1080i!

The ol' 1080i argument.. what the hell does that prove?
Most consumers can not even fully exploit the advantage of 1080p, but it is available in Toshiba's mid-line and top line players? So what's that all about?

crazyal · 11-29-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by daleb

The ol' 1080i argument.. what the hell does that prove?
Most consumers can not even fully exploit the advantage of 1080p, but it is available in Toshiba's mid-line and top line players? So what's that all about?

As long as BD keeps thinking this way and doesn't answer with a sub $200 player it will continue to loose the SA market.

CapBBeard · 11-29-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Last week Toshiba sold more players then ALL the BD CEM's since inception!

That's what we call 'hitting it home'

bigboar · 11-29-2007, 10:48 PM

Oh man Madhatter!! you just got owned!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6505633.html

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/12012.cfm

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6505330.html

LMFAO!

You had a 6 to 1 advantage in players - yet the best you can do is less than a 2 to 1 sales ratio? With how many BOGO's now?

Sorry gutless - you make no sense.

BobY · 11-29-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

Ironic that with all those Toshiba/Venturer/RCA/Onkyo/XBox players out there, you still can't seem to do squat in the weekly sales ratings. Oh yeah, Walmart doesn't get counted. That's the reason why the shitty sales figures for the red side.

The disc sales of both formats are execrable.

Do you imagine that Blu-Ray discs sales are somehow good?

PrinceLH · 11-29-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BobY

The disc sales of both formats are execrable.

Do you imagine that Blu-Ray discs sales are somehow good?

No, their only twice as good as HD DUD sales!

By the way, Lee, I don't own a PS3, but do own a Samsung BD P1000. And no, the PS3 does not make up 92% of the Blu Ray player sales. So I guess that proves that all Blu Ray owners aren't PS3 owners. That is almost as ridiculous as me saying that all HD DVD owners own 2 or more standalone machines. Maybe after the $98.00 firesale, I may be closer to the truth than what you believe!

PrinceLH · 11-30-2007, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by daleb

The ol' 1080i argument.. what the hell does that prove?
Most consumers can not even fully exploit the advantage of 1080p, but it is available in Toshiba's mid-line and top line players? So what's that all about?

Hey, the truth is the truth is the truth. !080i, is 1080i. The new standard is 1080p, until something better comes on the scene. Obsolete is obsolete. If it we're not so, then Toshiba would have had no reason to produce newer 1080p models and forced to sell the old stock, with old firmware, at a massive loss. I guess there's no more money in the kitty for any new studio purchases this year. Too bad, Warner can't be bought so cheaply, like Parawhore!

sam9007 · 11-30-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Of course it's all Sony, and Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer,......vs Toshiba, Toshiba and Toshiba. How much money did Toshiba burn to get rid of those old, obsolete A2's and A3's? Cutting edge technolgy, in wonderful 1080i! Last time I checked, a BD50 disk cost around $1.25. So where is the loss, when selling their stock at $14.99? I guess Paramount and Universal can't afford to keep up with the competition, and give the HD DUD fifedom a break in their software!

As usual a Sony Blu Ray fanboy saying 1080i is obselete.

Well mr.knowitall it isnt when you have a 720p which half of the market has on display and even more at home for early HD adopters.

Super XP · 11-30-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Of course it's all Sony, and Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer,......vs Toshiba, Toshiba and Toshiba. How much money did Toshiba burn to get rid of those old, obsolete A2's and A3's? Cutting edge technolgy, in wonderful 1080i! Last time I checked, a BD50 disk cost around $1.25. So where is the loss, when selling their stock at $14.99? I guess Paramount and Universal can't afford to keep up with the competition, and give the HD DUD fifedom a break in their software!

You really don’t get it do you?????? I really thought you were smarter than that. Sony has been beading Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer, Sharp, LG etc. completely dry. The more PS3’s Sony sells the less BD stand alone the others will sell, but you obviously don’t see that do you?????

First off, A2 is not obsolete. The A3 just came out, and Toshiba is not the one reducing the prices of those players it’s retailers like Best Buy, Wal-mart, Amazon.com etc which are reducing the prices. The more they buy off Toshiba, the better deal they get. Oh, unless you lack economics 123.

In your world, while Toshiba is selling their so called Obsolete HD DVD players, BD can continue to struggle until they finally give up and join the RED TEAM.

Pathetic when you need a PS3 game console to keep a format alive

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