Paramount states all remaining blu-ray discs will be destroyed!

niennumb1 · 11-28-2007, 12:52 PM

Does the BD-HP20 have the latest profile? That's a decent price (for once) for a BD player.

Madhatter · 11-28-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by niennumb1

Does the BD-HP20 have the latest profile? That's a decent price (for once) for a BD player.

I believe it is 1.0 profile. Circuit City also has a deal on the player, and with them you can pick it up local and not wait for it to ship. The only latest profile BD player right now is the Panasonic 30.

crazyal · 11-28-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

Well, since you ask, apparently the Sharp is running around $299 at certain online places (and from what I hear, from a hard line HD DVD supporting online retailer, of all places

). Samsung and Sony have had sales all week on their players. Panasonic has a new player out that is available for $399. As for $99 player, who would want one? Spend $2k or more on a tv and get all cheap on your other gear?

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

Re: Sharp Blu ray player for $299.

But again, you knew this already Lee. As well as the $399 players at BB with the $100 gift card and free movies.

So what price is OK to spend on a player if you own a $2K HDTV? What if your HDTV costs $4K? What if it's only was $1K? I have no idea how you shop but I set a price then find what I believe is the best product for the range I'm lookin in. Sometimes I find I have to spend more than I wanted to other times I'm happy because I don't have to spend as much.

But it sounds like to me that you're all about trying to impress people. I bet you make it a point to tell people how much you spent on your HDTV. If not then why would it matter how much you paid for a HDM player?

PrinceLH · 11-28-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

First. If you think that Disney, LionsGate, & Fox have never got incentives to be and remain BD only then I have some land AND a bridge to sell you. EVERY studio (except Sony) is getting "incentives" of some sort and we already know that Sony WAS subsidizing the BD disc mfg costs for studios.

Second. As you pointed out about the "Semi Blu boycott" of Paramount, why would they waste money storing/warehousing these discs if this is true? I think this is also a statement Paramount is making about how sure of their decision they are now with *near* mass consumer prices for HD DVD players.

Tell me. Are YOU one of those BD owners who are boycotting the Paramount BD movies?

Nope, I am buying the Paramount titles that I want. I have 16 or the 32 that are available on Blu. Why would any company with an asset destroy that asset, instead of collecting the money that they had invested in them? Hence, the current $19.99 sale of HD DVD and Blu Ray titles. Too bad that not all of their titles were on sale, but so be it. I wouldn't mind buying Black Snake Moan, but it is currently $34.99, a ripoff. Shooter is also selling for that price. I already purchased that title, when it was released the same day as 300. Many Blu supports, have boycotted Paramount because they see them as the whore that they really are. I see it as a smart business move, because they will eventually be free from Microsoft and will republish the Blu titles that they previously had released.

connerc_37 · 11-28-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Nope, I am buying the Paramount titles that I want. I have 16 or the 32 that are available on Blu. Why would any company with an asset destroy that asset, instead of collecting the money that they had invested in them? Hence, the current $19.99 sale of HD DVD and Blu Ray titles. Too bad that not all of their titles were on sale, but so be it. I wouldn't mind buying Black Snake Moan, but it is currently $34.99, a ripoff. Shooter is also selling for that price. I already purchased that title, when it was released the same day as 300. Many Blu supports, have boycotted Paramount because they see them as the whore that they really are. I see it as a smart business move, because they will eventually be free from Microsoft and will republish the Blu titles that they previously had released.

Microsoft didn't force them into anything. They may have offerd them a large amount of money, but thats buisness. You told me yourself that format wars are won by the company that performs the best.

PrinceLH · 11-28-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

You took Sony's bribe and purchased many BD movies. At least you will still be able to use your player after BD dies in a year

At least my player still plays BD movies. Your Onkyo is already finished as a viable HD DVD player, since they're not going to produce any more. Samsung will have many more generation of players for Blu Ray, while Onkyo will probably go Blu! I guess the writing was on the wall for them, when Toshiba undercut their ability to compete in the market. Will HD DVD ever win another week in software sales? I doubt it!

PrinceLH · 11-28-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by connerc_37

Microsoft didn't force them into anything. They may have offerd them a large amount of money, but thats buisness. You told me yourself that format wars are won by the company that performs the best.

You are correct. It was a good deal for them. They will make more money taking the 150 million dollars, than they could ever had made in the HDM market. The only problem is this, what happens when Blu keeps winning the software wars, every week, month in, month out? It has been a year since HD DVD has won a month and it only continues on. It's too bad, that you probably selected the wrong format. Instead of getting mad at the Blu Ray supporters, you should get mad at the people who lead you down the path of the wrong format to buy. The HD DVD zealots would like people like you to believe that all is OK, but the truth be known, the HD DVD format is a sinking ship, losing ground every week. This week, another software loss, Onkyo, one of the few other Hardware makers to support the format is now discontinuing their support and are probably going Blu. If you truly believe that HD DVD is looking after your interest, then ask them and ask yourself, where is the Buy One Get One Sales for HD DVD's, that Blu Ray often runs? How come the Combo format disks are still $34.99, while the same Blu titles are $29.99? Sure, cheap players, but more expensive software. Who is looking after you, after you bought their player? Not Toshiba or Paramount or Universal!

PrinceLH · 11-28-2007, 10:20 PM

Apparently, the Nielson Numbers for Last week are already out. Even with the $98.00 A2's and A3's, Blu Ray has apparently won the week 72.6 to 27.4. Just missed the 3 - 1 sales ratio for the week ending November 24th.

connerc_37 · 11-28-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Apparently, the Nielson Numbers for Last week are already out. Even with the $98.00 A2's and A3's, Blu Ray has apparently won the week 72.6 to 27.4. Just missed the 3 - 1 sales ratio for the week ending November 24th.

No one here is believing those numbers anymore. If you look on Amazon HD DVDs are out selling Blu Ray disks. How can Nielson actually get numbers from every retailer in the country for a weeks sales?

anythingwt · 11-28-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by niennumb1

Does the BD-HP20 have the latest profile? That's a decent price (for once) for a BD player.

The latest profile? You mean 1.0? That's the latest profile and all our BD players have got it!

PrinceLH · 11-28-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by connerc_37

No one here is believing those numbers anymore. If you look on Amazon HD DVDs are out selling Blu Ray disks. How can Nielson actually get numbers from every retailer in the country for a weeks sales?

Maybe you should ask some of your HD DVD demigods if they believe those numbers. Amazon is just one retailer who runs different sales. Nielson's is the recommended sales figure leader, since they don't sell Blu Ray or HD DVD's and only count the sales.

crazyal · 11-28-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Apparently, the Nielson Numbers for Last week are already out. Even with the $98.00 A2's and A3's, Blu Ray has apparently won the week 72.6 to 27.4. Just missed the 3 - 1 sales ratio for the week ending November 24th.

Care to post a link? I've never seen the Nielsen numbers in decimals before or ending on a Saturday.

PrinceLH · 11-28-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyal

Care to post a link? I've never seen the Nielsen numbers in decimals before or ending on a Saturday.

Why not go over to HD DVD's home site, AVS and read it for yourself. If this is true, it must be devasting to the Amir fan club.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...36c0078ef4de4a

WLKNDED · 11-28-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

Why not go over to HD DVD's home site, AVS and read it for yourself. If this is true, it must be devasting to the Amir fan club.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...36c0078ef4de4a

And what a Surprise

A BD Add right in the story.

I guess Sony paid the Hollywood reporter some of that money they made.

To give'em some good ink.

crazyal · 11-29-2007, 12:17 AM

I think if you could see the number of units sold it wouldn't be very high. Last week was Die Hard and Hairspray up against Star Trek. This week looks real weak as well (for both sides).

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PrinceLH It's About The Movies! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Belleville, Ontario Posts: 627	Apparently, the Nielson Numbers for Last week are already out. Even with the $98.00 A2's and A3's, Blu Ray has apparently won the week 72.6 to 27.4. Just missed the 3 - 1 sales ratio for the week ending November 24th. __________________ Samsung BD UP5000 181 Blu Ray's Toshiba HD A30 & HD D3 170 HD DVD's Latest HD Purchase: Observe & Report

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crazyal Smarter than the ave bear Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,312	I think if you could see the number of units sold it wouldn't be very high. Last week was Die Hard and Hairspray up against Star Trek. This week looks real weak as well (for both sides). __________________ Please don't feed the Unicorns

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