HD DVD's better picture quality

neal77 · 09-29-2007, 07:43 PM

I keep hearing the same thing from The Bluray fanboys. Bluray is better, has a better picture, well this is from Widescreen Review magazine. The movies with the best picture, a rating 5 which is excelent

King Kong HD DVD
The Perfect Storm HD DVD
Batman Begins HD DVD
Constantine HD DVD
Dreamgirls HD DVD
Dreamgirls Bluray
Ice Age Bluray
Pirates curse of the
black pearl Bluray
Pirates Dead mans chest Bluray
Pitch Black Chronicles HD DVD
Polar Express HD DVD
Training Day HD DVD
U-571 HD DVD

Movies with a 4.5 rating for PQ: 16 titles for HD DVD and 12 titles for Bluray

I will let you figure out which format (according to Widescreen Review Oct. issue) has the better picture quality.

Codes20 · 09-29-2007, 08:08 PM

Some questions to ask before taking that as fact:

What did they measure picture quality with?
What was the encoding of the discs?
What set(s) did they use?
How objectionable was the test?

I am truly format neutral, just a little FYI.

BobY · 09-29-2007, 08:57 PM

Did you mean how "objective" was the test

?

KEEBS1984 · 09-29-2007, 09:24 PM

I'm surprised Hot Fuzz didn't make that list. . .

That movie is shockingly beautiful.

cougardew · 09-29-2007, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KEEBS1984

I'm surprised Hot Fuzz didn't make that list. . .

That movie is shockingly beautiful.

True.

shadowsip · 09-29-2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cougardew

True.

I'm shocked also that the first Matrix wasn't on that list also.

-Brian

PFC5 · 09-29-2007, 10:40 PM

I own 7 of those HD DVD titles.

I didn't think Hot Fuzz was as high on the PQ rating as I was hearing before I watched it myself.

neal77 · 09-29-2007, 10:51 PM

Hot Fuzz also scored 5.0 on pq and 4.0 on sq. The matrix must have been reviewed awhile ago. I don't see it listed in this issue. I am looking for the equipment they used to test the movies on.

neal77 · 09-29-2007, 11:35 PM

Here is a link to their site where they list all the equipment they use. I think this is kinda old and i'm sure they have updated they system since then but its all I could find for now. Nice pics there anyway.

http://www2.widescreenreview.com/wsrreference.pdf

belmonte83 · 09-29-2007, 11:49 PM

how can Planet Earth (on either format) not be listed??

anythingwt · 09-30-2007, 12:15 AM

Geeze sounds like I need to get hot fuzz..

quexos · 09-30-2007, 12:21 AM

Well i am not going to start a war of words because yeah, each camp will go "mine is better blah blah blah ..."

personally i prefer Blu-ray why ?

Both formats are HI-DEF ok ? so no argument there.

But Blu ray has (and this is a fact) a numerical aperture of 0.85 compared to HD-DVD's 0.65 (basic DVD has it at 0.60) which allows a flow of data higher for Blu-ray. not twice as much okay, but better.

Now the big reason for me choosing Blu-ray is the amount of data. Blu can contain 50 GB on a double layer disc and HD-DVD only contains 30 GB for a same double layer disc ... this speaks for itself: in a world of HD where movies eat up a huge lot of space, I simply don't want to have to watch some long movies like Lord of the Rings, with the movie cut in half on two HD-DVD's ... and i'm not even mentioning the extras ...

Well beyond that, i don't really care about camps, i got my blu-ray system and i'm happy about it. i just hope i won't be forced to get on the inferior HD-DVD if they win this format war, that's all i'm saying.

cheers to all

quexos · 09-30-2007, 12:23 AM

i forgot to say, if you got some movie reviews higher on any format, it has nothing to do with what that format can or cannot do, it's cause that specific movie was better encoded, or used H.264 instead of Mpeg2 etc ...

my point being only with what Blu can deliver when at full capacity ...

anythingwt · 09-30-2007, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quexos

Well i am not going to start a war of words because yeah, each camp will go "mine is better blah blah blah ..."

personally i prefer Blu-ray why ?

Both formats are HI-DEF ok ? so no argument there.

But Blu ray has (and this is a fact) a numerical aperture of 0.85 compared to HD-DVD's 0.65 (basic DVD has it at 0.60) which allows a flow of data higher for Blu-ray. not twice as much okay, but better.

Now the big reason for me choosing Blu-ray is the amount of data. Blu can contain 50 GB on a double layer disc and HD-DVD only contains 30 GB for a same double layer disc ... this speaks for itself: in a world of HD where movies eat up a huge lot of space, I simply don't want to have to watch some long movies like Lord of the Rings, with the movie cut in half on two HD-DVD's ... and i'm not even mentioning the extras ...

Well beyond that, i don't really care about camps, i got my blu-ray system and i'm happy about it. i just hope i won't be forced to get on the inferior HD-DVD if they win this format war, that's all i'm saying.

cheers to all

I won't cheers my fat tire to you until you explain to me why the 50gb blu-ray is superior to HD DVD in any way. What doesn't king kong have?

Plus I think 51 beats 50

quexos · 09-30-2007, 12:32 AM

51 ? on double layer discs Blu has50 GB compared to 30 on double layer HD-DVD's ?

you did not know ?

please let me show you an objective comparison table. these are facts not camp fanatic preferences:

09-29-2007, 07:43 PM	#1
neal77 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L.A. California Posts: 495	HD DVD's better picture quality I keep hearing the same thing from The Bluray fanboys. Bluray is better, has a better picture, well this is from Widescreen Review magazine. The movies with the best picture, a rating 5 which is excelent King Kong HD DVD The Perfect Storm HD DVD Batman Begins HD DVD Constantine HD DVD Dreamgirls HD DVD Dreamgirls Bluray Ice Age Bluray Pirates curse of the black pearl Bluray Pirates Dead mans chest Bluray Pitch Black Chronicles HD DVD Polar Express HD DVD Training Day HD DVD U-571 HD DVD Movies with a 4.5 rating for PQ: 16 titles for HD DVD and 12 titles for Bluray I will let you figure out which format (according to Widescreen Review Oct. issue) has the better picture quality. __________________ HD-DVDS: 155 DVD's: 1,800 SHARP 52" 52d92u LCD TV XBOX360 ELITE HD-DVD ADD ON Toshiba A30

09-29-2007, 10:40 PM	#7
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09-29-2007, 10:51 PM	#8
neal77 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L.A. California Posts: 495	Hot Fuzz also scored 5.0 on pq and 4.0 on sq. The matrix must have been reviewed awhile ago. I don't see it listed in this issue. I am looking for the equipment they used to test the movies on. __________________ HD-DVDS: 155 DVD's: 1,800 SHARP 52" 52d92u LCD TV XBOX360 ELITE HD-DVD ADD ON Toshiba A30

09-29-2007, 11:35 PM	#9
neal77 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L.A. California Posts: 495	Here is a link to their site where they list all the equipment they use. I think this is kinda old and i'm sure they have updated they system since then but its all I could find for now. Nice pics there anyway. http://www2.widescreenreview.com/wsrreference.pdf __________________ HD-DVDS: 155 DVD's: 1,800 SHARP 52" 52d92u LCD TV XBOX360 ELITE HD-DVD ADD ON Toshiba A30

09-29-2007, 11:49 PM	#10
belmonte83 HD DVD for movie fans Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 174	how can Planet Earth (on either format) not be listed?? __________________ XBOX 360 gamertag: belmonte 83 Xbox 360 Elite Xbox 360 HD DVD player RCA Scenium 50" DLP Pioneer HTP 1100 5.1 Surround Sound with Pioneer SX-315 receiver and DV-490V HDMI DVD player HD DVD Movies: 50 Recently Purchased:Bourne Identity, Bourne Supremacy, Bourne Ultimatum, Blade Runner, The Kingdom

09-29-2007, 08:08 PM	#2
Codes20 In need of speakers Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CA Age: 28 Posts: 1,404	Some questions to ask before taking that as fact: What did they measure picture quality with? What was the encoding of the discs? What set(s) did they use? How objectionable was the test? I am truly format neutral, just a little FYI.

09-29-2007, 08:57 PM	#3
BobY What's all this, then?... Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,197	Did you mean how "objective" was the test ?

09-29-2007, 09:24 PM	#4
KEEBS1984 FIFA 10 > PES 2010 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PORTLAND!!!... OR Posts: 2,658	I'm surprised Hot Fuzz didn't make that list. . . That movie is shockingly beautiful.

09-30-2007, 12:15 AM	#11
anythingwt one love Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 4,417	Geeze sounds like I need to get hot fuzz.. __________________ "your dreams, minus your doubts, equal your reality"

09-30-2007, 12:21 AM	#12
quexos Blu-Ray is the way ! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 498	Blu is in fact better Well i am not going to start a war of words because yeah, each camp will go "mine is better blah blah blah ..." personally i prefer Blu-ray why ? Both formats are HI-DEF ok ? so no argument there. But Blu ray has (and this is a fact) a numerical aperture of 0.85 compared to HD-DVD's 0.65 (basic DVD has it at 0.60) which allows a flow of data higher for Blu-ray. not twice as much okay, but better. Now the big reason for me choosing Blu-ray is the amount of data. Blu can contain 50 GB on a double layer disc and HD-DVD only contains 30 GB for a same double layer disc ... this speaks for itself: in a world of HD where movies eat up a huge lot of space, I simply don't want to have to watch some long movies like Lord of the Rings, with the movie cut in half on two HD-DVD's ... and i'm not even mentioning the extras ... Well beyond that, i don't really care about camps, i got my blu-ray system and i'm happy about it. i just hope i won't be forced to get on the inferior HD-DVD if they win this format war, that's all i'm saying. cheers to all

09-30-2007, 12:23 AM	#13
quexos Blu-Ray is the way ! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 498	and also i forgot to say, if you got some movie reviews higher on any format, it has nothing to do with what that format can or cannot do, it's cause that specific movie was better encoded, or used H.264 instead of Mpeg2 etc ... my point being only with what Blu can deliver when at full capacity ...

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