is Blu Ray STILL really leading 2:1 ??

phearcat · 09-24-2007, 11:28 AM

I still see quite a few articles on the net still referencing Blu Ray sales over HD DVD disc sales by a 2 to 1 margin.

This seems really hard to believe. Toshiba HD DVD seems to always be in the #1 spot on amazon. We have had P/DM studios go HD exclusive. I'm sure Blu Ray sales are still in the lead but does Blu Ray really sell 2:1 or basically 100% more than HD DVD ???

Lee Stewart · 09-24-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by phearcat

I still see quite a few articles on the net still referencing Blu Ray sales over HD DVD disc sales by a 2 to 1 margin.

This seems really hard to believe. Toshiba HD DVD seems to always be in the #1 spot on amazon. We have had P/DM studios go HD exclusive. I'm sure Blu Ray sales are still in the lead but does Blu Ray really sell 2:1 or basically 100% more than HD DVD ???

60/40 is 1.5 to 1 as far as I know. But they keep blabbering about 2 to 1 whcih hasn't appeared in quite some time.

MikeRox · 09-24-2007, 01:59 PM

yeah it was 2:1 earlier in the year, but has since stablized back to 1.5:1 as HD DVD has gained momentum in recent months.

Super XP · 09-24-2007, 02:08 PM

From what I've read for disc sales, its about 1.5 Blu-Ray vs. 1 HD DVD. In "Stand Alone" player sales, its about 10 HD DVD vs. 1 Blu-Ray for North America.

For Canadian Best Buys & Future Shops, HD DVD stand alone players are outselling BD stand alone by a factor of more then 50:1 in just this month alone. More then 80% of all Future Shops in Canada completely sold out of the HD-A2 player thanks to the Door Crasher Sale they had a week ago or so.

Ntruder · 09-24-2007, 02:19 PM

Well 1.5 rounds up to 2

MikeRox · 09-24-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

From what I've read for disc sales, its about 1.5 Blu-Ray vs. 1 HD DVD. In "Stand Alone" player sales, its about 10 HD DVD vs. 1 Blu-Ray for North America.

For Canadian Best Buys & Future Shops, HD DVD stand alone players are outselling BD stand alone by a factor of more then 50:1 in just this month alone. More then 80% of all Future Shops in Canada completely sold out of the HD-A2 player thanks to the Door Crasher Sale they had a week ago or so.

I'm not convinced it's as high as that, but I'd have to say, recently since Sony made their outselling HD DVD stand alones claim, HD DVD has gained an incredible amount of ground.

Super XP · 09-24-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ntruder

Well 1.5 rounds up to 2

You mean 1.44:1

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

I'm not convinced it's as high as that, but I'd have to say, recently since Sony made their outselling HD DVD stand alones claim, HD DVD has gained an incredible amount of ground.

Maybe 50:1 sounds too high, but everywhere I go, HD DVD is sold out completely. I've asked a guy that works at one of the Future Shops in Toronto, and he told me they have a long list of backordered HD DVD's that people have put deposits down for.

Oh, Sony is full of shit, that is the problem with them, they cannot face the facts.

DSNY FN · 09-24-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

I'm not convinced it's as high as that, but I'd have to say, recently since Sony made their outselling HD DVD stand alones claim, HD DVD has gained an incredible amount of ground.

I read that and then I read PFC5's post about how Sony came to the conclusion they were outselling HD DVD SAL players and it was based on revenue not on sales volume. That is an easy thing to say when your players are priced 3-700 more than the competition IMHO.

deadeyedaryl · 09-24-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DSNY FN

I read that and then I read PFC5's post about how Sony came to the conclusion they were outselling HD DVD SAL players and it was based on revenue not on sales volume. That is an easy thing to say when your players are priced 3-700 more than the competition IMHO.

The bd association are using any data they can get their hands on so they can say we are selling more than you etc even though it is not true.

Super XP · 09-24-2007, 04:26 PM

Typical the Blu-Ray association would try anything to make themselves look better. Just more consumer manipulation IMO.

I also think BD outselling HD DVD in movies is FUD, and here is why: I’ve read somewhere (But I cannot find that article?) Blu-Ray goes by the number of discs that are shipped to retail “NOT SOLD”, where as HD DVD goes by the discs that are actually sold to consumers by retailers.

So this 1.6 million BD discs sold vs. 800,000 thousand HD DVD sold is complete FUD IMO. I don’t trust video scan numbers.

connerc_37 · 09-24-2007, 05:05 PM

Sony is full of shit. They lie about everything. I know one person with a Blu Ray player and four people with a HD DVD player.

MikeRox · 09-24-2007, 06:01 PM

All signs suggest Sony weren't actually lying about stand alone sales at the time they made their report. Even toshiba conceeded it's possible Blu Ray outsold HD DVD for a month or 2.

Super XP · 09-24-2007, 07:50 PM

Yes, but what about the discs?

Lee Stewart · 09-24-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

Yes, but what about the discs?

Neither camp has any control over the Nielsen numbers because they are published in the form of % pie charts.

The players is a totally different story.

so n so · 09-24-2007, 09:35 PM

can't wait to see what the numbers look like in Feb/March

09-24-2007, 02:08 PM	#4
Super XP Star Trek: The Movie! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 5,776	From what I've read for disc sales, its about 1.5 Blu-Ray vs. 1 HD DVD. In "Stand Alone" player sales, its about 10 HD DVD vs. 1 Blu-Ray for North America. For Canadian Best Buys & Future Shops, HD DVD stand alone players are outselling BD stand alone by a factor of more then 50:1 in just this month alone. More then 80% of all Future Shops in Canada completely sold out of the HD-A2 player thanks to the Door Crasher Sale they had a week ago or so. __________________ Toshiba Regza 46" HDTV (46RF350U) LCD 1080p/24p Toshiba HD-A35 / HD-A3 / XD-E500 LG GGC-H20L Super Multi / PC Drive Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 TrueHD/DTS HD MA Precision Acoustics™ 8Ch. Hi Def Loudspeaker Series DVD's = 200 = 130 = 10

09-24-2007, 04:26 PM	#10
Super XP Star Trek: The Movie! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 5,776	Typical the Blu-Ray association would try anything to make themselves look better. Just more consumer manipulation IMO. I also think BD outselling HD DVD in movies is FUD, and here is why: I’ve read somewhere (But I cannot find that article?) Blu-Ray goes by the number of discs that are shipped to retail “NOT SOLD”, where as HD DVD goes by the discs that are actually sold to consumers by retailers. So this 1.6 million BD discs sold vs. 800,000 thousand HD DVD sold is complete FUD IMO. I don’t trust video scan numbers. __________________ Toshiba Regza 46" HDTV (46RF350U) LCD 1080p/24p Toshiba HD-A35 / HD-A3 / XD-E500 LG GGC-H20L Super Multi / PC Drive Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 TrueHD/DTS HD MA Precision Acoustics™ 8Ch. Hi Def Loudspeaker Series DVD's = 200 = 130 = 10

09-24-2007, 05:05 PM	#11
connerc_37 HD DVD: Way of the Future Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 17 Posts: 395	Sony is full of shit. They lie about everything. I know one person with a Blu Ray player and four people with a HD DVD player. __________________ Age: 16 Location: Seattle WA Toshiba HD A2: 31 Movies Sony BDPS1: 6 Movies 50' in Samsung Plasma 42' in Viore Plasma Nintendo Wii Xbox 360 Dish HD

09-24-2007, 07:50 PM	#13
Super XP Star Trek: The Movie! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 5,776	Yes, but what about the discs? __________________ Toshiba Regza 46" HDTV (46RF350U) LCD 1080p/24p Toshiba HD-A35 / HD-A3 / XD-E500 LG GGC-H20L Super Multi / PC Drive Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 TrueHD/DTS HD MA Precision Acoustics™ 8Ch. Hi Def Loudspeaker Series DVD's = 200 = 130 = 10

09-24-2007, 09:35 PM	#15
so n so HDDVD to neutral, now Blu Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 85	can't wait to see what the numbers look like in Feb/March __________________ 32" XBR4 Sony Bravia (for bedroom!) -720p (remember 32" TV!) -120 Hz! -8000:1 contrast ratio -24p PS3: 22 Blu Ray titles. no HD DVD player anymore, sold it: 9 HDDVD titles

09-24-2007, 11:28 AM	#1
phearcat Me So HD Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The OC Age: 39 Posts: 698	is Blu Ray STILL really leading 2:1 ?? I still see quite a few articles on the net still referencing Blu Ray sales over HD DVD disc sales by a 2 to 1 margin. This seems really hard to believe. Toshiba HD DVD seems to always be in the #1 spot on amazon. We have had P/DM studios go HD exclusive. I'm sure Blu Ray sales are still in the lead but does Blu Ray really sell 2:1 or basically 100% more than HD DVD ???

09-24-2007, 01:59 PM	#3
MikeRox Blu Blu Skies! :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 12,414	yeah it was 2:1 earlier in the year, but has since stablized back to 1.5:1 as HD DVD has gained momentum in recent months.

09-24-2007, 02:19 PM	#5
Ntruder Defender of Sanity Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,239	Well 1.5 rounds up to 2

09-24-2007, 06:01 PM	#12
MikeRox Blu Blu Skies! :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 12,414	All signs suggest Sony weren't actually lying about stand alone sales at the time they made their report. Even toshiba conceeded it's possible Blu Ray outsold HD DVD for a month or 2.

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