HD DVD Combo's - What Went Wrong?

danboyd · 02-12-2008, 02:27 PM

With my A2 all 18 of my combo disks played perfectly
But with my new A35 im gettting a 50% failure rate
The latest one was elizebeth the new age.
I tried 3 copys (all played in the A2 ) but they lock the player
up and the only way to recover is to pull power
The A35 has the latest Updates as well.
Good thing i kept the A2 as a backup !!

zombi3 · 02-12-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cbcdesign

You are assuming Toshiba have not decided to let the format quietly die though as as time goes on I am more and more certain that is what they are going to do. We have not had one single truly defiant statement from them as yet and a week has passed since the warner defection. I hope I am wrong but I have a feeling we are all going to be dissapointed with Toshibas willingness to fight on.

Sadly, it has become more evident that this is correct.

Dare · 02-12-2008, 02:52 PM

Toshiba could still whip out that inexpensive dual format player. Come on, Toshiba, do it.

BTW, shame on the necrobumping.

Super XP · 02-12-2008, 03:47 PM

Combos & my A35 love each other. No problems. The only issue I have is my Star Trek OS disc 1, the 3rd episode stutters for some reason on my HD DVD based notebook. But it plays fine with my A35.

CaspersSVT · 05-15-2008, 02:22 PM

It's done and over with and even though I KNEW Blu-Ray would win it's over and done with. The answer is simple. More info. more uses better disks!

Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer!

CaspersSVT · 05-15-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

Combos & my A35 love each other. No problems. The only issue I have is my Star Trek OS disc 1, the 3rd episode stutters for some reason on my HD DVD based notebook. But it plays fine with my A35.

I have the SAME problem with mine. Although it's NOT Star Trek SOME of my disks DO, "Shutter" also.

HD Goofnut · 05-15-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CaspersSVT

It's done and over with and even though I KNEW Blu-Ray would win it's over and done with. The answer is simple. More info. more uses better disks!

Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer!

You apparently missed the fact that this thread is 3 months old.

**bruceames** · 05-15-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CaspersSVT

It's done and over with and even though I KNEW Blu-Ray would win it's over and done with. The answer is simple. More info. more uses better disks!

Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer!

Hello Casper, trolling is not cool here. Welcome to the forum.

MikeRox · 05-15-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I bet when they posed the question about paying $5.00 more for a combo disc those people were thinking about $5.00 more than SD DVD, not HD DVD prices + $5.00.

Just to bring this up. I hope it's evident to all the people who bemoaned "COMBOS COST MORE!!!!??!!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!!" etc. that Combo's did NOT cost more, you were just paying for the DAY AND DATE aspect. This is finally proven by the MSRP of Universal's Blu-ray day and dates. This isn't aimed at you personally PFC5, just in general at the people who constantly insisted combo's costed "too much".

**PFC5** · 05-15-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

Just to bring this up. I hope it's evident to all the people who bemoaned "COMBOS COST MORE!!!!??!!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!!" etc. that Combo's did NOT cost more, you were just paying for the DAY AND DATE aspect. This is finally proven by the MSRP of Universal's Blu-ray day and dates. This isn't aimed at you personally PFC5, just in general at the people who constantly insisted combo's costed "too much".

They were charging $5.00 more generally for the D/D combos over the non-combo D/Ds and even compared to the BD D/D back then.

My comment was in regard to the "research" that the studios did about pricing the combos. I believe people that said they would pay $5.00 more for a combo were talking about the additional cost they would pay over the SD DVD version, not compared to the HD DVD (non-combo) version.

**kamspy** · 05-15-2008, 06:05 PM

HD DVD Combo's - What Went Wrong?

The 'lower manufacturing cost' never made it to the shelf, and they had issues playing in many players. HD DVDs are the most scratch sensitive optical disc I've ever encountered.

mshulman · 05-15-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CaspersSVT

Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer!

Sorry, that's just plain wrong. TV Shows will still take up more than 1 disc. Here's a couple examples...

Prison Break - 6 Discs http://www.amazon.com/Prison-Break-S...0893002&sr=8-2

Lost - 6 Discs http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Complete-...0893002&sr=8-1

And as its already been pointed out, you're the only one talking about combo's. We stopped about 3 months ago.

MikeRox · 05-16-2008, 06:25 AM

Don't forget, although the capacity has increased, the bit rates (and so the amount of space needed for the content) has as well.

neal77 · 05-16-2008, 01:05 PM

I was in Frys a couple of weeks ago and there was this family there looking at Bluray movies. The little girl wanted a Disney movie and picked up the Bluray version. The dad was going to get it and then the mom says "you know she will only be able to watch this on the main tv and we won't be able to play it in the car either." They put the movie back and went and grabbed the DVD version. I was thinking this wouldn't have happened if it was a combo. I wonder if this happens a lot with Disney movies.

**PFC5** · 05-16-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by neal77

I was in Frys a couple of weeks ago and there was this family there looking at Bluray movies. The little girl wanted a Disney movie and picked up the Bluray version. The dad was going to get it and then the mom says "you know she will only be able to watch this on the main tv and we won't be able to play it in the car either." They put the movie back and went and grabbed the DVD version. I was thinking this wouldn't have happened if it was a combo. I wonder if this happens a lot with Disney movies.

It happens all the time in my house. If it is a movie that they kids will mostly watch it is not bought on BD. It wasn't bought on HD DVD either unless it was a combo disc for the same reason.

The only way around this for most people is if/when the BD players get so cheap they can replace most/all the SD DVD players in homes/cars. Until then, most people with younger kids are likely to not buy the HD version. I am sure some will buy them, and some will buy one or two then realize how limited the viewing will be and discontinue buying them in HD until the cheap players come.

02-12-2008, 02:27 PM	#76
danboyd High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: British Columbia Age: 61 Posts: 66	Combo disk failures With my A2 all 18 of my combo disks played perfectly But with my new A35 im gettting a 50% failure rate The latest one was elizebeth the new age. I tried 3 copys (all played in the A2 ) but they lock the player up and the only way to recover is to pull power The A35 has the latest Updates as well. Good thing i kept the A2 as a backup !! __________________ HD DVD's 200 Toshiba A2 Toshiba A35 Playstation 3 Bell 9200 HD PVR (2 locations) Bell 9242 Main viewing Sony 60in XSRD HD TV Phillips Pronto Pro Remote Denon 3808ci XBOX 360 Elite Xbox HD Addon Xbox 360 Priemere Nintendo WII Pioneer Fo7-DVI 700 (300 DVD player) Pioneer DVI 700 Laser/DVD Player HD DVD's - 182 DVD's - 1700 (originals!) Laser Disks Still left - 300 Blue Ray "141"

02-12-2008, 02:52 PM	#78
Dare I moon you. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,436	Toshiba could still whip out that inexpensive dual format player. Come on, Toshiba, do it. BTW, shame on the necrobumping. __________________ LG GGC-H20L Super Multi Blue Blu-ray & HD DVD ROM Drive 58 31

02-12-2008, 03:47 PM	#79
Super XP Star Trek: The Movie! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 5,776	Combos & my A35 love each other. No problems. The only issue I have is my Star Trek OS disc 1, the 3rd episode stutters for some reason on my HD DVD based notebook. But it plays fine with my A35. __________________ Toshiba Regza 46" HDTV (46RF350U) LCD 1080p/24p Toshiba HD-A35 / HD-A3 / XD-E500 LG GGC-H20L Super Multi / PC Drive Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 TrueHD/DTS HD MA Precision Acoustics™ 8Ch. Hi Def Loudspeaker Series DVD's = 200 = 130 = 10

05-15-2008, 02:22 PM	#80
CaspersSVT CaspersSVT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 31 Posts: 5	Why Still talking about HD-Disks It's done and over with and even though I KNEW Blu-Ray would win it's over and done with. The answer is simple. More info. more uses better disks! Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer! __________________ Sharp Aquos: 46" 120Hz LCD Denon: 910W 7.1-Ch. XM Satellite Radio-Ready A/V Home Theater Receiver Denon: Blu-ray Disc Player Definitive Technology: 3-Way Tower Speaker with Built-in Powered Subwoofer (Fronts) Definitive Technology: Mythos Gem Dual 4-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speakers (Sides) Definitive Technology: Mythos Gem Dual 4-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speakers (Rears) Definitive Technology: Dual 5-1/4" 2-Way Center-Channel Speaker (Center) Panamax: 11-Outlet Power Conditioner/Surge Protector

05-16-2008, 06:25 AM	#88
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05-15-2008, 06:05 PM	#86
kamspy Esteban Moderatoro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati,OH Good Posts: 12 Posts: 13,048	HD DVD Combo's - What Went Wrong? The 'lower manufacturing cost' never made it to the shelf, and they had issues playing in many players. HD DVDs are the most scratch sensitive optical disc I've ever encountered.

05-16-2008, 01:05 PM	#89
neal77 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L.A. California Posts: 495	I was in Frys a couple of weeks ago and there was this family there looking at Bluray movies. The little girl wanted a Disney movie and picked up the Bluray version. The dad was going to get it and then the mom says "you know she will only be able to watch this on the main tv and we won't be able to play it in the car either." They put the movie back and went and grabbed the DVD version. I was thinking this wouldn't have happened if it was a combo. I wonder if this happens a lot with Disney movies. __________________ HD-DVDS: 155 DVD's: 1,800 SHARP 52" 52d92u LCD TV XBOX360 ELITE HD-DVD ADD ON Toshiba A30

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