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Old 02-12-2008, 02:27 PM   #76
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Default Combo disk failures

With my A2 all 18 of my combo disks played perfectly
But with my new A35 im gettting a 50% failure rate
The latest one was elizebeth the new age.
I tried 3 copys (all played in the A2 ) but they lock the player
up and the only way to recover is to pull power
The A35 has the latest Updates as well.
Good thing i kept the A2 as a backup !!
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You are assuming Toshiba have not decided to let the format quietly die though as as time goes on I am more and more certain that is what they are going to do. We have not had one single truly defiant statement from them as yet and a week has passed since the warner defection. I hope I am wrong but I have a feeling we are all going to be dissapointed with Toshibas willingness to fight on.
Sadly, it has become more evident that this is correct.
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Toshiba could still whip out that inexpensive dual format player. Come on, Toshiba, do it.

BTW, shame on the necrobumping.
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Combos & my A35 love each other. No problems. The only issue I have is my Star Trek OS disc 1, the 3rd episode stutters for some reason on my HD DVD based notebook. But it plays fine with my A35.
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Thumbs up Why Still talking about HD-Disks

It's done and over with and even though I KNEW Blu-Ray would win it's over and done with. The answer is simple. More info. more uses better disks!

Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer!
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Combos & my A35 love each other. No problems. The only issue I have is my Star Trek OS disc 1, the 3rd episode stutters for some reason on my HD DVD based notebook. But it plays fine with my A35.
I have the SAME problem with mine. Although it's NOT Star Trek SOME of my disks DO, "Shutter" also.
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It's done and over with and even though I KNEW Blu-Ray would win it's over and done with. The answer is simple. More info. more uses better disks!

Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer!
You apparently missed the fact that this thread is 3 months old.
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It's done and over with and even though I KNEW Blu-Ray would win it's over and done with. The answer is simple. More info. more uses better disks!

Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer!
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I bet when they posed the question about paying $5.00 more for a combo disc those people were thinking about $5.00 more than SD DVD, not HD DVD prices + $5.00.
Just to bring this up. I hope it's evident to all the people who bemoaned "COMBOS COST MORE!!!!??!!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!!" etc. that Combo's did NOT cost more, you were just paying for the DAY AND DATE aspect. This is finally proven by the MSRP of Universal's Blu-ray day and dates. This isn't aimed at you personally PFC5, just in general at the people who constantly insisted combo's costed "too much".
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Just to bring this up. I hope it's evident to all the people who bemoaned "COMBOS COST MORE!!!!??!!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!!" etc. that Combo's did NOT cost more, you were just paying for the DAY AND DATE aspect. This is finally proven by the MSRP of Universal's Blu-ray day and dates. This isn't aimed at you personally PFC5, just in general at the people who constantly insisted combo's costed "too much".
They were charging $5.00 more generally for the D/D combos over the non-combo D/Ds and even compared to the BD D/D back then.

My comment was in regard to the "research" that the studios did about pricing the combos. I believe people that said they would pay $5.00 more for a combo were talking about the additional cost they would pay over the SD DVD version, not compared to the HD DVD (non-combo) version.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:05 PM   #86
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HD DVD Combo's - What Went Wrong?

The 'lower manufacturing cost' never made it to the shelf, and they had issues playing in many players. HD DVDs are the most scratch sensitive optical disc I've ever encountered.
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Now you can have a WHOLE Seasons (Usually like 8-14 Disks) can NOW ALL be stored on ONE disk AND look and sound WAY BETTER! Hell people it's a NO brainer!
Sorry, that's just plain wrong. TV Shows will still take up more than 1 disc. Here's a couple examples...

Prison Break - 6 Discs http://www.amazon.com/Prison-Break-S...0893002&sr=8-2

Lost - 6 Discs http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Complete-...0893002&sr=8-1



And as its already been pointed out, you're the only one talking about combo's. We stopped about 3 months ago.
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Don't forget, although the capacity has increased, the bit rates (and so the amount of space needed for the content) has as well.
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I was in Frys a couple of weeks ago and there was this family there looking at Bluray movies. The little girl wanted a Disney movie and picked up the Bluray version. The dad was going to get it and then the mom says "you know she will only be able to watch this on the main tv and we won't be able to play it in the car either." They put the movie back and went and grabbed the DVD version. I was thinking this wouldn't have happened if it was a combo. I wonder if this happens a lot with Disney movies.
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I was in Frys a couple of weeks ago and there was this family there looking at Bluray movies. The little girl wanted a Disney movie and picked up the Bluray version. The dad was going to get it and then the mom says "you know she will only be able to watch this on the main tv and we won't be able to play it in the car either." They put the movie back and went and grabbed the DVD version. I was thinking this wouldn't have happened if it was a combo. I wonder if this happens a lot with Disney movies.
It happens all the time in my house. If it is a movie that they kids will mostly watch it is not bought on BD. It wasn't bought on HD DVD either unless it was a combo disc for the same reason.

The only way around this for most people is if/when the BD players get so cheap they can replace most/all the SD DVD players in homes/cars. Until then, most people with younger kids are likely to not buy the HD version. I am sure some will buy them, and some will buy one or two then realize how limited the viewing will be and discontinue buying them in HD until the cheap players come.
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