Paramount: No Recall on Existing Blu-ray Titles, But Supplies Won't Be Replenished

MikeRox · 08-22-2007, 06:50 PM

Lets just say we definitely don't see eye to eye on quite a few things today. Maybe I should take a break (I'm off to bed now anyway) I think if I read any more nonsense on this forum today I might just cry

If SD DVD is so great, why the hell are we even bothering with HD formats?

If a product is deleted, why should it be treated as if it never existed?

that is all

Thank you and good night.

PFC5 · 08-22-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

Does that mean there are no Laser Disc movies at all now and that the format never existed?

No they existed, but it will very soon be PAST TENSE right with those Paramount BD titles in so far as buying them in a store right?

My point is that we are talking about movie counts based on what the average consumer can BUY. Most people (vast majority) do not buy used things on eBay etc. There is also a much more finite number of THOSE movies that can be bought over the coming months as they sell out of inventory.

I understand your point, but I bet eventually those Paramount BD movie discs will sell for much more (for a little while anyway) than even the MSRP of them which means most people would not buy them. We are not counting all the VHS movies sold at yard sales for 50 cents either but the do exist. They are just not counted when comparing the sales numbers to SD DVDs. There was an announcement that HD DVD surpassed VHS sales, but I bet that is wrong if we count all the yard sales people all over the world have.

Do they have yard sales in the UK? Just in case they do not it is when people clear out their house of all the stuff they never use any more (basically thought of as junk by the seller, because if they didn't have a yard sale, they would throw it in the trash), that someone else likes or loves. I just didn't know if this happens over there, so do not take offense to this description.

**bruceames** · 08-23-2007, 08:19 AM

BD Paramount movies are definitely being scooped up. The M.I. box set is in the top 100 (it was lower than #3000 on Monday) and all the titles are climbing fast in rank. Maybe some people don't really care about the movies so much as they think they'll become collectors items?

Chris Gerhard · 08-23-2007, 08:42 AM

I don't think any of the Paramount Blu-ray titles that have been released are in short supply. Some of the titles will likely still be available when the 18 month period ends unless Paramount cuts them all out and they are sold in bargain bins.

Has anybody seen any sales figures for the Paramount HD DVD and Blu-ray releases thus far? I know the HD DVD releases didn't sell well and don't think the Blu-ray releases sold well either. I don't recall the biggest seller for Paramount in either format. The top ten lists were dominated by Sony, Disney and Warner the last time I checked.

Chris

Super XP · 08-23-2007, 10:02 AM

Yes, on Amazon, Paramount Blu-Ray films are selling a lot more then normal. Actually the Blu-Ray's percentage of sales has increased LOL, people are picking them up big time. Every film for itself.

I think it’s a great idea that Paramount is now HD DVD exclusive, let’s see how Fox & Disney like it. I want FOX & Disney movies on HD DVD and I cannot get them. So, now Blu-Ray supporters can’t get DreamWorks, Paramount & Universal. Fare is Fare right.

Universal is now 4th place (HD DVD tilte)
Paramount holds 7th & 8th place on Amazon. (Blu-Ray titles)

MikeRox · 08-23-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Do they have yard sales in the UK? Just in case they do not it is when people clear out their house of all the stuff they never use any more (basically thought of as junk by the seller, because if they didn't have a yard sale, they would throw it in the trash), that someone else likes or loves. I just didn't know if this happens over there, so do not take offense to this description.

We don't tend to have yard sales as such, but we do have "car boot sales" where you basically load your car up with your unwanted goods, pay say £5 entry, and then set up a stall in a field where there are plenty of other people doing the same.

I guess we see things differently in the UK, as people do actually track and hunt things down over here if they can't find them in a regular store.

PFC5 · 08-23-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

We don't tend to have yard sales as such, but we do have "car boot sales" where you basically load your car up with your unwanted goods, pay say £5 entry, and then set up a stall in a field where there are plenty of other people doing the same.

I guess we see things differently in the UK, as people do actually track and hunt things down over here if they can't find them in a regular store.

We call those Flea Markets here.

There are always people looking for the rare thing, but generally the rare things do not actually get used so they do not get damaged by use. That is why I say when the movies are got they should be stricken from the BD movie list. Maybe not right away, but certainly when the HD market starts to blossom and the quantity minute compared the that then current future point in time.

MikeRox · 08-23-2007, 01:20 PM

Our flea markets are indoors, you hire a stall at them for the day, rather than just pay to enter. Generally these are the realm of regular second hand merchants though, rather than families just clearing out a load of old "tat".

crazyal · 08-23-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

We don't tend to have yard sales as such, but we do have "car boot sales" where you basically load your car up with your unwanted goods, pay say £5 entry, and then set up a stall in a field where there are plenty of other people doing the same.

We load our unwanted stuff in our cars and pay about the same, of course we go to a dump not sit in a field.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeRox

I guess we see things differently in the UK, as people do actually track and hunt things down over here if they can't find them in a regular store.

We call that ebay.

Lee Stewart · 08-23-2007, 07:29 PM

Speaking of Flea Markets . . . . . . Oops!

Canadian anti-piracy raids turn up $800,000 worth of bootleg DVDs

Police raids at a Mississauga flea market have squashed rampant piracy that was bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars for sellers. On Sunday, about a dozen booths at flea markets on Mavis Rd. in Mississauga and on Dundas St. near Hwy 427 in Toronto led to 18 arrests being made and another 8 people are being sought.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/10811.cfm

RedSIinPA · 08-23-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

I would buy some as investments. I bought DVD's that were discountinued and sold them for:

1. Little Shop of Horrors - $100

2. The Killer (Criterion) - $90

3. Hard Boiled (Criterion) - $90

4. Platoon - $75

I think I did all right.

What version of Platoon fetched $75?

Lee Stewart · 08-23-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSIinPA

What version of Platoon fetched $75?

The original release that had some additional features that the later one (most popular) didn't.

RedSIinPA · 08-23-2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

The original release that had some additional features that the later one (most popular) didn't.

My original copy I picked up at a supermarket for $10 - it was a horrible version. I now own the Special Edition which has some cool voice overs with the actors/director over the entire movie. I'd hate to think the first copy I owned, which I threw into the trash, was actually worth money? Probably not.

Lee Stewart · 08-23-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSIinPA

My original copy I picked up at a supermarket for $10 - it was a horrible version. I now own the Special Edition which has some cool voice overs with the actors/director over the entire movie. I'd hate to think the first copy I owned, which I threw into the trash, was actually worth money? Probably not.

That wasn't it. I think it was a Criterion Release first.

It had a black cover and W. Dafoe was in "Gold Chrome"

Super XP · 08-23-2007, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Speaking of Flea Markets . . . . . . Oops!

Canadian anti-piracy raids turn up $800,000 worth of bootleg DVDs

Police raids at a Mississauga flea market have squashed rampant piracy that was bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars for sellers. On Sunday, about a dozen booths at flea markets on Mavis Rd. in Mississauga and on Dundas St. near Hwy 427 in Toronto led to 18 arrests being made and another 8 people are being sought.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/10811.cfm

Pacific Mall in Markham Ontario, just outside of Toronto, also has a problem with selling bootleg DVD's. Movies that are still in the theatre being sold in Mint PQ & AQ DVD Condition for about $5 each. Talk about killing the industry.

They’ve been raided by police several times, and the very next week they are up & running once again. Cops cannot do anything without a search warrant. Police are even walking into the place, and they cannot do anything.

I hope HD movies are not ripped off, as long as the original HD’s are sold at a reasonable price.

08-23-2007, 08:19 AM	#18
bruceames Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 15,375	BD Paramount movies are definitely being scooped up. The M.I. box set is in the top 100 (it was lower than #3000 on Monday) and all the titles are climbing fast in rank. Maybe some people don't really care about the movies so much as they think they'll become collectors items? __________________ RIP Kosty.

08-23-2007, 10:02 AM	#20
Super XP Tom Baker (1974-1981) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 5,983	Yes, on Amazon, Paramount Blu-Ray films are selling a lot more then normal. Actually the Blu-Ray's percentage of sales has increased LOL, people are picking them up big time. Every film for itself. I think it’s a great idea that Paramount is now HD DVD exclusive, let’s see how Fox & Disney like it. I want FOX & Disney movies on HD DVD and I cannot get them. So, now Blu-Ray supporters can’t get DreamWorks, Paramount & Universal. Fare is Fare right. Universal is now 4th place (HD DVD tilte) Paramount holds 7th & 8th place on Amazon. (Blu-Ray titles) __________________ Toshiba REGZA 46" 1080p LCD HDTV (46RF350U) - (Living Room) Toshiba REGZA 47" 1080p 240Hz LCD HDTV (47ZV650U) - (Theatre Room) Toshiba HD-A35 / HD-A3 Patriot PBO CORE 1080p HD Media Player Panasonic DMP-BDT210(3D) w/ Wifi LG BD570C Blu-Ray Player w/ Wifi Bell HD Satellite Receiver (6131) x 2 Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 TrueHD/DTS HD MA Precision Acoustics™ 8Ch. Hi Def Speakers DVD's = 129+ = 124+ = 59+ Last edited by Super XP; 08-23-2007 at 10:05 AM.

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08-22-2007, 06:50 PM	#16
MikeRox Connoisseur of Fine Games Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 15,756	Lets just say we definitely don't see eye to eye on quite a few things today. Maybe I should take a break (I'm off to bed now anyway) I think if I read any more nonsense on this forum today I might just cry If SD DVD is so great, why the hell are we even bothering with HD formats? If a product is deleted, why should it be treated as if it never existed? that is all Thank you and good night.

08-23-2007, 08:42 AM	#19
Chris Gerhard High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,789	I don't think any of the Paramount Blu-ray titles that have been released are in short supply. Some of the titles will likely still be available when the 18 month period ends unless Paramount cuts them all out and they are sold in bargain bins. Has anybody seen any sales figures for the Paramount HD DVD and Blu-ray releases thus far? I know the HD DVD releases didn't sell well and don't think the Blu-ray releases sold well either. I don't recall the biggest seller for Paramount in either format. The top ten lists were dominated by Sony, Disney and Warner the last time I checked. Chris

08-23-2007, 01:20 PM	#23
MikeRox Connoisseur of Fine Games Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 15,756	Our flea markets are indoors, you hire a stall at them for the day, rather than just pay to enter. Generally these are the realm of regular second hand merchants though, rather than families just clearing out a load of old "tat".

08-23-2007, 07:29 PM	#25
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	Speaking of Flea Markets . . . . . . Oops! Canadian anti-piracy raids turn up $800,000 worth of bootleg DVDs Police raids at a Mississauga flea market have squashed rampant piracy that was bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars for sellers. On Sunday, about a dozen booths at flea markets on Mavis Rd. in Mississauga and on Dundas St. near Hwy 427 in Toronto led to 18 arrests being made and another 8 people are being sought. http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/10811.cfm