HDMI 1.3 - Is It Necessary?

hatt · 01-23-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy X

This brings up another question. with HD DVD players handling the audio decoding/mixing, why would anyone need to get a receiver that does the highdef audio decoding??

Shouldn't I be able to save $$ and get a decent 7.1 HDMI receiver instead of the Onkyo Tx 605 that I have been thinking of?

The 605 is around $400, I don't know how much lower you could go than this and still call something decent. I have never liked the lower($200ish) priced offerings in the receiver department The 805 is currently $730 and should be seriously considered if it would fit in your budget.

hatt · 01-23-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rcbridge

Thanks for the detailed recap of HDMI, it was very eye opening I happen to be in the market for a new receiver, I would like to have HDMI switching, I typically look for a last years model (at close out)
to get a better deal. So I will take the approach that the 1.3 is not really a must have!

I've seen some nice deals on the Yamaha 1700($587)/2700.

**PFC5** · 01-23-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rcbridge

Thanks for the detailed recap of HDMI, it was very eye opening I happen to be in the market for a new receiver, I would like to have HDMI switching, I typically look for a last years model (at close out)
to get a better deal. So I will take the approach that the 1.3 is not really a must have!

I think if you are interested in a BD player, you WILL need a HDMI 1.3a receiver with the HD audio decoders built into the receiver. This is a different viewpoint since CES where the majority of 1.0 BD players were at least including DtHD decoding in the players. It appears they are going back to Plan A of trying to get everyone to buy a new receiver again since almost all the reported BD players coming out will only pass the HD bitstream for the receiver to do the decoding again.

DanPLC · 01-23-2008, 12:01 PM

In the OP's post, it mentions that movies with "advanced" audio authoring will require the decoding of the next-gen codecs in the player.

So to clarify, if an HD-DVD or Blu-ray movie uses advanced audio authoring, and the player passes the bitstream over HDMI to a receiver that can decode the next-gen codec, the audio won't play? Is this really true, because that seems a bit messed up.

I currently own the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on, so I obviously don't have any opportunity to listen to next-gen codecs. However, my plan this year is to buy a Blu-ray player and the Onkyo TX-605. I wasn't going to worry about which codecs the player decoded (such as DTS-MA) because the Onkyo can decode them all via bitstream. But if certain discs are going to have issues, this obviously concerns me.

phearcat · 01-23-2008, 12:04 PM

Looks like an excellent post by Lee (as always) but please send me the cliff notes.

DanPLC · 01-24-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DanPLC

In the OP's post, it mentions that movies with "advanced" audio authoring will require the decoding of the next-gen codecs in the player.

So to clarify, if an HD-DVD or Blu-ray movie uses advanced audio authoring, and the player passes the bitstream over HDMI to a receiver that can decode the next-gen codec, the audio won't play? Is this really true, because that seems a bit messed up.

I currently own the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on, so I obviously don't have any opportunity to listen to next-gen codecs. However, my plan this year is to buy a Blu-ray player and the Onkyo TX-605. I wasn't going to worry about which codecs the player decoded (such as DTS-MA) because the Onkyo can decode them all via bitstream. But if certain discs are going to have issues, this obviously concerns me.

Bump... can anyone clarify this?

01-23-2008, 12:01 PM	#34
DanPLC High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 151	In the OP's post, it mentions that movies with "advanced" audio authoring will require the decoding of the next-gen codecs in the player. So to clarify, if an HD-DVD or Blu-ray movie uses advanced audio authoring, and the player passes the bitstream over HDMI to a receiver that can decode the next-gen codec, the audio won't play? Is this really true, because that seems a bit messed up. I currently own the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on, so I obviously don't have any opportunity to listen to next-gen codecs. However, my plan this year is to buy a Blu-ray player and the Onkyo TX-605. I wasn't going to worry about which codecs the player decoded (such as DTS-MA) because the Onkyo can decode them all via bitstream. But if certain discs are going to have issues, this obviously concerns me. __________________ Samsung LN-T5271F LCD TV Panasonic DMP-BD30K Blu-ray Xbox 360 with HD-DVD add-on Kenwood VR-405 Receiver

01-23-2008, 12:04 PM	#35
phearcat Me So HD Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The OC Age: 39 Posts: 698	Looks like an excellent post by Lee (as always) but please send me the cliff notes. __________________ 50" Pioneer Plamsa pdp-5070hd HDTV XBox 360 Elite (HDMI) w/HD-DVD XBL: Phear Cat Nintendo Wii HD DVD: 41

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