hd "300 vs. blue ray "300"

iserum · 08-11-2007, 11:57 AM

HD DVD are sold out in three stores i checked i had to order from Amazon. i got my disc yesterday and PQ and sound quality is amazing, i thought of buying on BD, but changed my mind ordered on HD DVD. i don't know how much longer i will pay more for these combo discs if prices of movies are like these, HD DVD will loose to BD. BD on average is cheaper than HD DVD on all new movies.

Lee Stewart · 08-11-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by iserum

HD DVD are sold out in three stores i checked i had to order from Amazon. i got my disc yesterday and PQ and sound quality is amazing, i thought of buying on BD, but changed my mind ordered on HD DVD. i don't know how much longer i will pay more for these combo discs if prices of movies are like these, HD DVD will loose to BD. BD on average is cheaper than HD DVD on all new movies.

Ther are 85 BD titles priced at $34 to $40. There are only 41 HD DVD titles priced in the same range.

**PFC5** · 08-11-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dels28

The question still stands for HD DVD supporters, if everything remains the same, how in the world is HD DVD going to overtake BD. Prices for both will drop in terms of players, both will have great movies available this fall with the larger blockbuster exclusives being on BD (spiderman trilogy, and frenchy the rat). I just don't see what HD DVD has to counter with against the PS3.

What you need to realize is that there is such a thing in sales called "Critical Mass". This is the point where sales skyrocket and this is almost always triggered by price become low enough for the majority of people being able to afford to buy it at that price.

I do not think we shall see Critical Mass at the $200.00 price point, but no one could argue that at this price point a whole new HUGE level of buyers will come into play. I believe Critical Mass for SD DVD players was when they dropped below $300.00. Times are different now with everyone getting use to prices being much lower because of the China effect.

I believe that Critical Mass for HD players will be at the under $150.00 price point. This is because of the China Effect, but also because people do not see AS MUCH difference between HD & SD DVDs as they did with the switch over from VHS, AND they just spent much more for their new HDTV than they ever paid for a TV before and will be shell shocked about spending much more money.
It doesn't matter WHAT movies come out on BD if people cannot afford the BD players. Who is going to buy a BD movie for more than the SD DVD version IF they do not have a BD player because they cannot afford it?

My

Anamorphic_DVD · 08-11-2007, 05:40 PM

The widescreen version is better than both of them because emphasis is not placed on the film grain and it upconverts to HD quality if you have the right equipment.

samcan07 · 08-11-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anamorphic_DVD

The widescreen version is better than both of them because emphasis is not placed on the film grain and it upconverts to HD quality if you have the right equipment.

My Blu Ray version is widescreen!!!!

Lee Stewart · 08-11-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

What you need to realize is that there is such a thing in sales called "Critical Mass". This is the point where sales skyrocket and this is almost always triggered by price become low enough for the majority of people being able to afford to buy it at that price.

I do not think we shall see Critical Mass at the $200.00 price point, but no one could argue that at this price point a whole new HUGE level of buyers will come into play. I believe Critical Mass for SD DVD players was when they dropped below $300.00. Times are different now with everyone getting use to prices being much lower because of the China effect.

I believe that Critical Mass for HD players will be at the under $150.00 price point. This is because of the China Effect, but also because people do not see AS MUCH difference between HD & SD DVDs as they did with the switch over from VHS, AND they just spent much more for their new HDTV than they ever paid for a TV before and will be shell shocked about spending much more money.
It doesn't matter WHAT movies come out on BD if people cannot afford the BD players. Who is going to buy a BD movie for more than the SD DVD version IF they do not have a BD player because they cannot afford it?

My

No comparision to DVD - you didn't need a special display to see DVD - worked on any TV thus far installed. Need an HDTV to see HD - goodbye 85% of the market.

samcan07 · 08-12-2007, 02:05 AM

Well I watched the movie now and I don't think Warner did a great job the BluRay(Unless I got a bad copy) And I'm not talking about the grain.

There were 2 scenes where I thought it was terrible!!!!
One was the sky in the background where it looked terrible and the other was a sort of flicker on a close up of the King towards the end of the movie. Not good at all!!!!

Apart from those 2 bits it was pretty good!!!!

neal77 · 08-12-2007, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by samcan07

The figures are correct!!!

Sam says so, so it must be true. I bow to the Sam

samcan07 · 08-12-2007, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by neal77

Sam says so, so it must be true. I bow to the Sam

Anamorphic_DVD · 08-12-2007, 07:39 AM

Those scenes are some of the best on my DVD.

dels28 · 08-12-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

How about 500,000 A3's sold between 11/24 and 12/31 this year at $199 MSRP (street $179 to $149) - How about a street price of $99 for the 360 AO?

Think that will make a difference? We already know the PS3 is no longer adding to BD's sales ratio. 600,000 more PS3's in August versus January yet ratio never changes from 2 to 1

If you believe that article - only 20% of PS3 owners use the PS3 as a BD player. That means that will have to SELL 2.5 million PS3's in those same 5 weeks to match the A3. Market is becoming saturated for PS3 buyers. Last Xmas they sold 1.3 million? Is that right? So this Xmas they are going to sell twice as much? At what price for the PS3 will this happen?

So when these huge blockbuster movies start coming out in the fall, don't you think that number of 20% will rise just like your assuming the g3 players will sell.

Lee Stewart · 08-12-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dels28

So when these huge blockbuster movies start coming out in the fall, don't you think that number of 20% will rise just like your assuming the g3 players will sell.

Not necessarily - the limiting factor is who has an HDTV. 1/3 of households have an HDTV but is there a PS3 attached to it? BD is an HD format like HD DVD. Need an HDTV to see better PQ.

The title only relates to those who have both and the popularity of the movie as we just saw with 300 - right price - much wanted movie. So which Q4 titles are you discussing?

GLOW · 08-12-2007, 11:09 AM

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Better specs? I don't think so. I think at worst they are even since HD DVD has some things blu-ray doesn't a vice versa.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Name one thing that HD DVD can do that Blu-ray can't.

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Better audio? I'm not sure about this either. I believe the specs allow them to be the same.

Well, the general consensus is PCM is superior to TrueHD and I don't know of any HD DVD's with PCM tracks, 30GB doesn't exactly leave much room for uncompressed lossless audio.

GLOW · 08-12-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Anamorphic_DVD

The widescreen version is better than both of them because emphasis is not placed on the film grain and it upconverts to HD quality if you have the right equipment.

OK, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about....

Lee Stewart · 08-12-2007, 11:28 AM

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Do you even know what you're talking about? Name one thing that HD DVD can do that Blu-ray can't.

What about play in 125 Million DVD players along with HD DVD players?

1. Combo Format

2. Twin Format

08-11-2007, 11:57 AM	#16
iserum High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,955	HD DVD are sold out in three stores i checked i had to order from Amazon. i got my disc yesterday and PQ and sound quality is amazing, i thought of buying on BD, but changed my mind ordered on HD DVD. i don't know how much longer i will pay more for these combo discs if prices of movies are like these, HD DVD will loose to BD. BD on average is cheaper than HD DVD on all new movies. __________________ Panasonic 50PX80U/Pioneer BDP-51FD /Toshiba HD A1/Tivo HD SAMSUNG LNT-4661F/ Pioneer BDP-51FD/Dell XPS, Nvidia 9500 GT SONY BRAVIA 40V2500/40 GB PS3, WII, Intel Core 2 Duo with Nvidia 6800 Yamaha RXV1700 Def. Tech. Mythos III, V & Gems, Super Cube III Harmony Remote One Power Conditioner: Belkin PF40

08-11-2007, 05:40 PM	#19
Anamorphic_DVD Anamorphic is winning! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 210	The widescreen version is better than both of them because emphasis is not placed on the film grain and it upconverts to HD quality if you have the right equipment. __________________ Sony KDL40S3000 Toshiba XA2 HD DVD Sharp Aquos LC-42D62U 42 Toshiba XA2 HD DVD HD DVD 16 Enhanced DVDs 47 http://dvdinhdq.4t.com/ Learn about DVD HD upconversion (save money buying Enhanced DVD). http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/Misc/anamorphic_dvd.htm 1 format for all players = Anamorphic Cleaner & More Smooth than HD DVD & Blu Ray! The #1 selling format!

08-12-2007, 07:39 AM	#25
Anamorphic_DVD Anamorphic is winning! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 210	Those scenes are some of the best on my DVD. __________________ Sony KDL40S3000 Toshiba XA2 HD DVD Sharp Aquos LC-42D62U 42 Toshiba XA2 HD DVD HD DVD 16 Enhanced DVDs 47 http://dvdinhdq.4t.com/ Learn about DVD HD upconversion (save money buying Enhanced DVD). http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/Misc/anamorphic_dvd.htm 1 format for all players = Anamorphic Cleaner & More Smooth than HD DVD & Blu Ray! The #1 selling format!

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08-12-2007, 02:05 AM	#22
samcan07 We're caught in a trap... Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 927	Well I watched the movie now and I don't think Warner did a great job the BluRay(Unless I got a bad copy) And I'm not talking about the grain. There were 2 scenes where I thought it was terrible!!!! One was the sky in the background where it looked terrible and the other was a sort of flicker on a close up of the King towards the end of the movie. Not good at all!!!! Apart from those 2 bits it was pretty good!!!!