300 on blu-ray stomps it's hdd counterpart

mshulman · 08-12-2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by connerc_37

I dont mean to be hateful, but if I came here and wrote 300 hd sells 2:1 blu ray with no link, people wouldnt believe me. Lee Stewart those are some good points.

Of course noone would believe you. It would take a lot for something like this to happen. There are far more blu-ray players in the market - it makes perfect sense for blu-ray to outsell HD DVD. 2:1 doesn't need a link as its a very minimal margin considering the gap in players.

MikeRox · 08-12-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Oops! Doesn't say what region code it is. BD is not like HD DVD. They do have different regions. If that is a region 2 then it can't be played in the USA. They are out of stock by the way.

I know they're out of stock it has been released though. Found another one on the near horizon too. And yes, if the discs have been region encoded, they will NOT work on a USA Blu Ray player.

U-571 Blu Ray

There are quite a few US titles that are neutral releases that are Blu Ray exclusive over here too. Happens both ways around though, The Prestige came out here on HD DVD despite being BD exclusive in the US.

Lee Stewart · 08-12-2007, 08:52 AM

Starship Troopers on BD - region 2

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product//...rd_i=293962011

One is going to have to be careful on this region thing. If it doesn't list a region you can't assume it is all region though many are.

But Ghost Rider is an all region release:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product//...rd_i=293962011

Super XP · 08-12-2007, 09:21 AM

HD DVD still have more world wide exlusive support then Blu-Ray. But the real winner is the winner of North America.

Brotherhood of the Wolf (UK Import) (HD DVD) - This movie is awesome!!!!!!
http://hddvd./brotherhoodofthewolf_uk.html

Warner Releases for HD DVD.
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...&action=report

Don Bluth.com lets FOX HD DVD possibility slip?
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2007/03/do..._hd_dvd_p.html

This Christmas holiday season will be the deciding factor IMO. Many stores favor HD DVD due to sales & many favor Blu-Ray due to sales.

Try looking at a Blu-Ray movie up close @ 1080p & the same with a HD DVD @ 1080p. The Blu-Ray picture feed looks like crap for some reason, on a 42" Sony Bravia LCD. The HD DVD looks so much more crisp on a 42" LG LCD. Oh, Best Buy was the store I seen this.

MikeRox · 08-12-2007, 09:29 AM

fraid I know lyris, and even he no longer believes fox plan goin to HD DVD anytime soon.

deadeyedaryl · 08-12-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

HD DVD still have more world wide exlusive support then Blu-Ray. But the real winner is the winner of North America.

Brotherhood of the Wolf (UK Import) (HD DVD) - This movie is awesome!!!!!!
http://hddvd./brotherhoodofthewolf_uk.html

Warner Releases for HD DVD.
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...&action=report

Don Bluth.com lets FOX HD DVD possibility slip?
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2007/03/do..._hd_dvd_p.html

This Christmas holiday season will be the deciding factor IMO. Many stores favor HD DVD due to sales & many favor Blu-Ray due to sales.

Try looking at a Blu-Ray movie up close @ 1080p & the same with a HD DVD @ 1080p. The Blu-Ray picture feed looks like crap for some reason, on a 42" Sony Bravia LCD. The HD DVD looks so much more crisp on a 42" LG LCD. Oh, Best Buy was the store I seen this.

It probably just the cables which they are using for the video input. Either that or the LG tv has a better spec than the sony equivalent.

Super XP · 08-12-2007, 05:35 PM

Awesome Deal.

Toshiba 1080p HD DVD Player (HD-A20) w/ 8 Free HD DVD's
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...gon=&langid=EN

This is a deal of a life time. And the player only costs $499cad with 3 free HD DVD movies (Perfect Storm, Black Rain & The Fast and The Furious) along with the mail in offer for 5 more Free HD DVD's.

Toshiba continues this and they will be future proofing HD DVD 100%.

Super XP · 08-12-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by deadeyedaryl

It probably just the cables which they are using for the video input. Either that or the LG tv has a better spec than the sony equivalent.

Well, maybe so but other people I spoke to tell me that several (Not All) Blu-Ray movies lack picture quality. You can see imperfections on objects & people from the video feed or something in the movies when playing them in HDMI 1080p & 720p. HD DVD does not have this problem, HD DVD is an already proven technology.

MikeRox · 08-12-2007, 05:46 PM

Blu Rays image quality is generally identical, and has the potential to be superior to HD DVDs, with the exception of early rushed Blu Ray titles, pretty much all Blu Ray titles now have a perfectly acceptable picture quality.

mshulman · 08-12-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

Blu Rays image quality is generally identical, and has the potential to be superior to HD DVDs, with the exception of early rushed Blu Ray titles, pretty much all Blu Ray titles now have a perfectly acceptable picture quality.

Superior?

First, we have no evidence to support that on 99% of the TV's in the market that any blu-ray improvement will even be noticable. Second, I think it will hardly be superior.

I think HD is superior to SD, but Blu-ray and HD DVD are both very equal.

samcan07 · 08-12-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

Blu Rays image quality is generally identical, and has the potential to be superior to HD DVDs, with the exception of early rushed Blu Ray titles, pretty much all Blu Ray titles now have a perfectly acceptable picture quality.

Pretty much agree with this statement!!!!

Super XP · 08-12-2007, 09:40 PM

This may play a role in the Blu-Ray quality.

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(Note: As originally reported by The Digital Bits, some users have experienced poor image quality when viewing Blu-ray discs on the Samsung first-generation BD-P1000 Blu-ray disc player when connected via the deck's HDMI output. Apparently these problems, including decreased resolution and diluted color reproduction, are largely corrected when switching to the BD-P1000's component outputs.

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This is third Blu-ray title I've reviewed so far, and it comes after the mixed results I had encountered previously with the disappointing 'The Fifth Element,' and the better if inconsistent '50 First Dates.' Unfortunately, the disc I hoped would be my first knockout now leaves me batting zero for three. While 'xXx' does look pretty good on Blu-ray, it still suffers from some noticeable image quality problems that, quite frankly, I just didn't expect from a format that has been has highly touted as this one.

**PFC5** · 08-12-2007, 10:20 PM

Those go back to launch titles which we all no sucked.

Super XP · 08-12-2007, 11:05 PM

Yes, I understand. And a few were Sony titles. But MI3 also had picture problems on Blu-Ray when using HDMI @ 1080p res.

HD DVD touts sales growth over Blu-ray's decline
Posted Jul 18th 2007 1:39AM by Richard Lawler
Filed under: HD DVD

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/07/18...-rays-decline/

This was on July 18, 2007. I expect that PS3 was not counted.

MikeRox · 08-13-2007, 04:44 AM

Don't take that too literally mate (I am a HD DVD supporter over Blu Ray, I'm just realistic), had Casino Royale been released in Q2 instead of Q1, there would have actually been an 18% growth in Q2 over Q1. If 1 title is all it takes to completely alter things like that, you can't read too much into it.

Lets see what growth is like (it's gonna be how much BD grows not if) when the Q4 big hitters come out.

08-12-2007, 08:52 AM	#78
Lee Stewart Behold - the future! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 58 Posts: 25,193	Starship Troopers on BD - region 2 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product//...rd_i=293962011 One is going to have to be careful on this region thing. If it doesn't list a region you can't assume it is all region though many are. But Ghost Rider is an all region release: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product//...rd_i=293962011 Last edited by Lee Stewart; 08-12-2007 at 08:56 AM.

08-12-2007, 09:21 AM	#79
Super XP Star Trek: The Movie! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 5,776	HD DVD still have more world wide exlusive support then Blu-Ray. But the real winner is the winner of North America. Brotherhood of the Wolf (UK Import) (HD DVD) - This movie is awesome!!!!!! http://hddvd./brotherhoodofthewolf_uk.html Warner Releases for HD DVD. http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...&action=report Don Bluth.com lets FOX HD DVD possibility slip? http://www.lyris-lite.net/2007/03/do..._hd_dvd_p.html This Christmas holiday season will be the deciding factor IMO. Many stores favor HD DVD due to sales & many favor Blu-Ray due to sales. Try looking at a Blu-Ray movie up close @ 1080p & the same with a HD DVD @ 1080p. The Blu-Ray picture feed looks like crap for some reason, on a 42" Sony Bravia LCD. The HD DVD looks so much more crisp on a 42" LG LCD. Oh, Best Buy was the store I seen this. Last edited by Super XP; 08-12-2007 at 09:25 AM.

08-12-2007, 05:35 PM	#82
Super XP Star Trek: The Movie! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 5,776	Toshiba 1080p HD DVD Player (HD-A20) w/ 8 Free HD DVD's Awesome Deal. Toshiba 1080p HD DVD Player (HD-A20) w/ 8 Free HD DVD's http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...gon=&langid=EN This is a deal of a life time. And the player only costs $499cad with 3 free HD DVD movies (Perfect Storm, Black Rain & The Fast and The Furious) along with the mail in offer for 5 more Free HD DVD's. Toshiba continues this and they will be future proofing HD DVD 100%. Last edited by Super XP; 08-12-2007 at 05:44 PM.

08-12-2007, 10:20 PM	#88
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08-12-2007, 09:29 AM	#80
MikeRox Blu Blu Skies! :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 12,417	fraid I know lyris, and even he no longer believes fox plan goin to HD DVD anytime soon.

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Super XP Star Trek: The Movie! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 5,776	Yes, I understand. And a few were Sony titles. But MI3 also had picture problems on Blu-Ray when using HDMI @ 1080p res. HD DVD touts sales growth over Blu-ray's decline Posted Jul 18th 2007 1:39AM by Richard Lawler Filed under: HD DVD http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/07/18...-rays-decline/ This was on July 18, 2007. I expect that PS3 was not counted.

08-13-2007, 04:44 AM	#90
MikeRox Blu Blu Skies! :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 12,417	Don't take that too literally mate (I am a HD DVD supporter over Blu Ray, I'm just realistic), had Casino Royale been released in Q2 instead of Q1, there would have actually been an 18% growth in Q2 over Q1. If 1 title is all it takes to completely alter things like that, you can't read too much into it. Lets see what growth is like (it's gonna be how much BD grows not if) when the Q4 big hitters come out.