300 on blu-ray stomps it's hdd counterpart

MikeRox

Don't forget Batman Begins, Matrix Trilogy etc etc are all also going to be on Blu Ray though. It might be like them, otherwise it seems odd that no Blu Ray specs have been announced even though pretty much everything for the HD DVD version has been confirmed. I reckon Toshiba have been exchanging $$$ for exclusive 2007 content.

samcan07

I checked and it is being cosidered for 2008!!!!

MikeRox

Looking at Toshiba's current strategy, it really would appear they expect the disparity in userbase between the 2 formats to rapidly vanish over Q4. Meaning that by the time 2008 comes, some of the currently exclusive content really isn't an issue. Universal have been resonating similar impressions with their current attitude to the format war.

Lee Stewart

It is an issue now. 22 titles that are HD DVD only from a neutral studio. THAT is the only issue. Once BD gets profile 1.1 players in the market next year . .THEN, they will become BD titles and the number of exclusive HD DVD titles will take a 22 count hit. But no one knows when in 2008 these new BD players will arrive.

mshulman

Ok, that I agree with. I would still place my bet on us not having reached a point where many people are walking in to stores, finding out about either format and walking out with players. I'd say most people buying have already heard about it, have done some research and have then bought a player.

As we get closer to this being more of an add on to an HD set or something along those lines, product visibility in stores will play a bigger role.

PS - In regards ot the topic title.. 2:1 is hardly stomping. Let's revisit this when its 4:1 or more..

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Nice talk ....kid
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Super XP

HD DVD will only win on price alone IMO. Being better overall in picture, sound & extras may not be enough for HD DVD.

If they can come out with basic HD DVD players costing just under $150usd to $200usd w/ 720p/1080i HDMI & Component display output & all the sound quality etc. then they will have more than a fighting chance to stay in the game. They should also have all players costing more then $250 with full 1080p support via HDMI.

Blu-Ray’s strong point is the exclusive studio support they have excluding HD DVD backer Universal. Warner, Paramount, New Line Cinema are both ways.

Overall, HD DVD sold “MUCH MORE” HD DVD players in North America then Blu-Ray. I don’t count the Play Station 3, that is a gaming system, and about 40% only use it for HD watching.

On a side note: Approx: same time last year in 2006.
HD DVD movies outsold all other HD formats by a factor of nearly 3 to 1.

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Super XP

This is a good read. I always hated Sony's business practices, ever since they kicked Sega’s better Dreamcast out the door with the PS1 & PS2 systems. Paying off companies for exclusive titles & manipulating the press.

HD DVD: Fight or Quit (Preferably Quit)
http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hi..._preferabl.php

Lee Stewart

Both formats are equal in PQ and AQ. Next ccomes price. Very big trump card. An Ace. Difference is still $200 and will be maintained as long as possible

11/24/07 - MSRP of A3 - $199 - count on it. Take it to the bank and cash it. $299 for the A30 - 1080P and $399 for the A35.

New Line is controled by Warner - a neutral studio. Fox has released 1 movie since March. Lionsgate is releasing cartoons (in 7.1 no less) and Disney is very sporadic with many catalog titles

Because HD DVD is region free and because the same mix of studios is different in Europe - from a company called Xpolited Cinema in Ohio, USA - I can order this second - 35 HD DVD's of movies that are BD exclusive here in the USA. There are another 5 to 10 from Amazon UK. There are no Universal BD's that I know about. So the studio content card is a Jack . . not an Ace.


Yep - 2 to 1 ratio for HD DVD versus BD SAL's. And the number is close to yours. About 30% to 33% are buying BD movies.

HD DVD had no competition, This is the very reason why the BD "fanboys" are so "hateful" towards the HD DVD owners . . because when the ratio's were all in HD DVD's favor - they made a huge mistake and started rubbing it into the BD's owners faces (here on the net).

This was a mistake IMO because you should always be polite to someone on your way up. . . you never know if you will meet up with them on your way down.

Super XP

Good stuff, you should write a HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray Blog or article, because HD DVD is KING in Europ.

I think the PC industry will have a very large say in which format will win.
HD DVD in your PC.
HP, Gateway, Acer and Toshiba

Blu-Ray in your PC.
Dell, Sony, and Apple

HD DVD Wins European Market, Says Promo Group.
HD DVD Captures 74% HD Movie Players Market Share in Europe - 2007
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multime...711223917.html

HD-DVD group claims success against Blu-ray in Q2 – July 2007
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32939/118/

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August 2, 2007
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Wal-Mart? I would have thought a nice HD DVD promo due to the cheaper priced drives? I think SONY has something to do with this IMO. They have a bad habit of paying companies off.

connerc_37

I dont mean to be hateful, but if I came here and wrote 300 hd sells 2:1 blu ray with no link, people wouldnt believe me. Lee Stewart those are some good points.

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MikeRox

Yes, but you misunderstood my point. If the feeling I'm getting from Toshibas strategy (make a huge impact over Q4 with by far the cheapest entry level player, push exclusive content such as Matrix, Star Trek, Heroes etc) is correct. Come 2008 when they loose the exclusivity, it won't be any where near the same issue is currently is because HD DVD will already have the momentum into 2008 and perhaps force alot of studios not currently supporting HD DVD to take note.


*at a different poster* As for no Universal Catalogue titles on Blu Ray, sorry to dissapoint you, but Bruce Almighty is on Blu Ray in the UK as Buena Vista have the rights to it here. Don't know of any others yet, but I don't know the full Blu Ray catalogue here. It is VASTLY larger than HD DVDs in the UK mainly thanks to Blu Ray studios actually bothering with HD releases over here while Universal are happy to pump out 1 or 2 a month at best

Next week there is something like 15 Blu Ray releases versus 2 HD DVD with Entertainment in Video releasing a huge wad of films including titles like The Departed, which is neutral in the US, but BD exclusive over here.

So that leads into my final point to Super XP, although players are heavily slanted in HD DVDs favour, hardware sales are barely even a blip over here so it's a large chunk of not many players, while the PS3 has done incredibly well at launch (even if it's just a trickle of sales now) and with it being by far the cheapest Blu Ray player even at £425 ($850) it's definitely sold to alot of the HD movie crowd. The Blu Ray section is usually double the size of the HD DVD section assuming a shop even carries HD DVD.

Lee Stewart

That Evan Almighty - what region code is that?

MikeRox

Whatever the UKs region code is. Sorry really know very little about region codes, and it's Bruce Almighty, not Evan Almighty Evan Almighty has only been out in cinemas a week over here.

Bruce Almighty

Lee Stewart

Oops! Doesn't say what region code it is. BD is not like HD DVD. They do have different regions. If that is a region 2 then it can't be played in the USA. They are out of stock by the way.