How many think Combo DVDs will help if priced right?

unotis · 07-31-2007, 12:44 PM

The only place we are disagreeing on is, I'm using MSRP pricing, where you are using the discounted prices from Amazon.

Ultimately, what the vendor decides to sell the disc for should not really impact the studio's profit margin, just the vendors.

The studios sell their discs for the same mark-up universally (maybe in the case of extremely large vendors that sell in extremely high numbers maybe they work out a economy of scale discount).

I'm saying the studios should place the same MSRP on all the Combo/Twin discs as the normal SD discs and placement of HD compatible DVDs in consumer's homes would skyrocket and greatly facilitate the public's progression to HD DVD disc ownership and eventually would replace SD DVDs with HD DVDs and HD DVD players.

Perhaps in the short term they would lose a slight amount of profit (maybe not), which would easily be replaced with not duplicating the manufacturer, packaging and shipping of two different formats and later increase profits due to economy of scale and vastly increased market share.

mshulman · 07-31-2007, 02:18 PM

I used amazon pricing, simply because it is highly unlikely amazon is selling below what they paid. Studio is making somewhere between cost and amazon price.

Why should the studio take a hit today though when they can sell DVD, make decent money and sell Combo and make more money? As far as I know, studios don't gain much by either format winning.

MikeRox · 07-31-2007, 02:41 PM

Universal have a lot to gain, as they earn royalties on every HD DVD title sold, not just their own. Therefore it is in their interest to get as many HD DVDs sold regardless of studio as possible. I believe Paramount and Warner BRos are also on a royalties thing as part of the HD DVD Promotions Group, though I may be wrong.

mshulman · 07-31-2007, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeRox

Universal have a lot to gain, as they earn royalties on every HD DVD title sold, not just their own. Therefore it is in their interest to get as many HD DVDs sold regardless of studio as possible. I believe Paramount and Warner BRos are also on a royalties thing as part of the HD DVD Promotions Group, though I may be wrong.

Ok, then they should change how they are selling. They could have a much bigger impact then they are.

MikeRox · 07-31-2007, 02:54 PM

They don't want to risk too much investment on the format either, as if they pour millions into it, and it still tanks, they're in a worse position than they are now if it fails, they could also just be holding off for now while Sony have had a wave of pro Blu Ray announcements.

At the end of the day, we don't know the ins and outs, so we can't really tell them how to run their businesses. They're the ones earning millions a year, I guess they know what they're doing more than we do

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07-31-2007, 12:44 PM	#136
unotis UNOTIS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: FLORIDA Age: 54 Posts: 3,347	The only place we are disagreeing on is, I'm using MSRP pricing, where you are using the discounted prices from Amazon. Ultimately, what the vendor decides to sell the disc for should not really impact the studio's profit margin, just the vendors. The studios sell their discs for the same mark-up universally (maybe in the case of extremely large vendors that sell in extremely high numbers maybe they work out a economy of scale discount). I'm saying the studios should place the same MSRP on all the Combo/Twin discs as the normal SD discs and placement of HD compatible DVDs in consumer's homes would skyrocket and greatly facilitate the public's progression to HD DVD disc ownership and eventually would replace SD DVDs with HD DVDs and HD DVD players. Perhaps in the short term they would lose a slight amount of profit (maybe not), which would easily be replaced with not duplicating the manufacturer, packaging and shipping of two different formats and later increase profits due to economy of scale and vastly increased market share. __________________ B&K Audio/Video Receiver 507 Harman/Kardon TC30 universal remote Martin Logan Odyssey speakers Martin Logan Center Channel speaker Velodyne DPS-12 Powered Subwoofer B&W rear speakers Toshiba XA1, XA2, A2 HD DVD players Sony PS3 40 GB Panasonic TH-42PZ700U 1080p plasma Panasonic 34" Tau CT-34WX50 widescreen HD-ready CRT Monster Power Center Motorola Dual Tuner DVR/ HDTV capable Officially PURPLE HD DVDs = 105 Blu-Ray Discs = 45 with 5 on the way Last edited by unotis; 07-31-2007 at 12:49 PM.

07-31-2007, 02:18 PM	#137
mshulman My Projector is High Def. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Marlborough, MA Age: 35 Posts: 6,572	I used amazon pricing, simply because it is highly unlikely amazon is selling below what they paid. Studio is making somewhere between cost and amazon price. Why should the studio take a hit today though when they can sell DVD, make decent money and sell Combo and make more money? As far as I know, studios don't gain much by either format winning. __________________ Toshiba HD-A2 and HD-A3 PS3 Sanyo PLV-Z3 Canon HF-10 Onkyo 805 "I eat green berets for breakfast and I'm very hungry!"

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07-31-2007, 02:41 PM	#138
MikeRox Blu Blu Skies! :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 12,417	Universal have a lot to gain, as they earn royalties on every HD DVD title sold, not just their own. Therefore it is in their interest to get as many HD DVDs sold regardless of studio as possible. I believe Paramount and Warner BRos are also on a royalties thing as part of the HD DVD Promotions Group, though I may be wrong.

07-31-2007, 02:54 PM	#140
MikeRox Blu Blu Skies! :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 12,417	They don't want to risk too much investment on the format either, as if they pour millions into it, and it still tanks, they're in a worse position than they are now if it fails, they could also just be holding off for now while Sony have had a wave of pro Blu Ray announcements. At the end of the day, we don't know the ins and outs, so we can't really tell them how to run their businesses. They're the ones earning millions a year, I guess they know what they're doing more than we do