HD DVD to have 600 titles on shelves by end 07

DSNY FN · 03-16-2007, 04:07 PM

According to this release they have banded together with Toshiba Universal and Microsoft being the primaries to drive the HD DVD market and they announced they will have 600 HD DVD titles on shelves by end of 07. This was posted yesterday.

http://www.cdrlabs.com/news/byte/4779

second link this one has a little more content to it.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070315/sfth036.html?.v=101

tcarcio · 03-16-2007, 04:16 PM

Shhhhhhhhhhh, The bd fanboys will start crying again.

alra111 · 03-16-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DSNY FN

According to this release they have banded together with Toshiba Universal and Microsoft being the primaries to drive the HD DVD market and they announced they will have 600 HD DVD titles on shelves by end of 07. This was posted yesterday.

They better, if they want any chance at winning this war:

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/news/...Comparison/514

What happened with The Departed is very interesting--the Blu-ray release kicked the HD DVD release's butt (even though the HD DVD release includes the awesome DVD side which you can play in your children's room!!).

I feel HD DVD picked a horrible time to take a four-week vacation from releasing any discs (2/27/2007 - 3/27/2007).

What is up with that?! Did an HD DVD authoring facility burn down or something?

Then HD DVD comes back on 3/27/2007 with a whopping three releases, or five if you include National Geographic: Relentless Enemies (I've been waiting for this one myself) and Digital Video Essentials (watch out, there's going to be a line at Best Buy for that one).

Then, the following week, they only release one disc.

I guess there's simply going to be a lot of releases from June to December.

alra111 · 03-16-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tcarcio

Shhhhhhhhhhh, The bd fanboys will start crying again.

Yeah, then the HD DVD fanboys will call the teacher!

mshulman · 03-16-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alra111

They better, if they want any chance at winning this war:

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/news/...Comparison/514

What happened with The Departed is very interesting--the Blu-ray release kicked the HD DVD release's butt (even though the HD DVD release includes the awesome DVD side which you can play in your children's room!!).

I think that actually is a bad indicator for Blu-Ray. Considering how many more bluray players are out there, you would think comparison's between titles would have blu-ray in an enourmous lead. But its a pretty small difference when you think of how many more potential bluray buyers are out there.

And I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but since the departed was a combo, it was also more expensive than standard HD-DVD titles. Had this been an HD-DVD only title, then I bet the numbers would have been a little closer making bluray look that much worse.

MattRCT · 03-16-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alra111

Yeah, then the HD DVD fanboys will call the teacher!

I love companys that lie to me!

**PFC5** · 03-16-2007, 05:02 PM

I think BD is pulling out all the stops to try to convince everyone that BD is going to win this war in a couple of months by offering 2 bd movies for the price of 1, and releasing a lot of movies during a time when they already knew HD DVD has a lull in new releases coming. I am really, how many HD DVD movies were released since mid December 2006 and through 3/31/07? there has been about 5-6 times more BD movie releases compared to HD DVD releases during the same time period, so of course sales are going to reflect this.

Don't get me wrong, I think Sony is doing the smart thing, and Toshiba/Universal dropped the ball with a 3+ month lull in new releases, but what is Sony/BDA going to do/say when the HD DVD releases start coming out like water from my faucet and HD DVD movie sales come back?

This war is many years from being over and all studios SHOULD release in both formats and let the consumer decide.

Jimmy Smith · 03-16-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I think BD is pulling out all the stops to try to convince everyone that BD is going to win this war in a couple of months by offering 2 bd movies for the price of 1, and releasing a lot of movies during a time when they already knew HD DVD has a lull in new releases coming. I am really, how many HD DVD movies were released since mid December 2006 and through 3/31/07? there has been about 5-6 times more BD movie releases compared to HD DVD releases during the same time period, so of course sales are going to reflect this.

Don't get me wrong, I think Sony is doing the smart thing, and Toshiba/Universal dropped the ball with a 3+ month lull in new releases, but what is Sony/BDA going to do/say when the HD DVD releases start coming out like water from my faucet and HD DVD movie sales come back?

This war is many years from being over and all studios SHOULD release in both formats and let the consumer decide.

What about the Departed. Released day to date on both formats with identical technical specs and no special sales for Blu-Ray yet the Blu-Ray version outsold it by over 70%. This proves that Blu-Ray being ahead has nothing to do with more titles its because of all those Playstation 3s.

Jimmy Smith · 03-16-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mshulman

I think that actually is a bad indicator for Blu-Ray. Considering how many more bluray players are out there, you would think comparison's between titles would have blu-ray in an enourmous lead. But its a pretty small difference when you think of how many more potential bluray buyers are out there.

This arguement is beyond retarded. Which format rate has greater attachment rate is irrelevent. Its about raw movie sales only. Which format has potentical to sell the most discs. If a studio decides to release a movie in high definition which format would sell higher. The answer is Blu-Ray. How or why its selling higher and whether every player is being used doesn't mean monkey shit.

Stew4HD · 03-16-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

What about the Departed. Released day to date on both formats with identical technical specs and no special sales for Blu-Ray yet the Blu-Ray version outsold it by over 70%. This proves that Blu-Ray being ahead has nothing to do with more titles its because of all those Playstation 3s.

Where is this 70% information from?

**PFC5** · 03-16-2007, 05:22 PM

I guess math is not what you are studying in college Jimmy.

BD sales of 20,000/33,000 = 60.606%. That puts it at 60.606% NOT over 70%.

Geez. How can you think you could boost the numbers like that and not get called out on it? Also, if you read the whole article they even say that it is not a fair apples to apples comparison since the HD DVD version is more expensive and some probably picked the BD version to save $5.00 on the cost.

All The Departed did was let the studios know (hopefully) that combos cannot be priced higher than a non-combo movie or else it will hurt sales of that movie.

If you count all the PS3s sold that would give the BD camp over 5:1 player margin yet the movie sales difference (with hardly any HD DVD movies released) are only about 2:1. What does that tell you Jimmy?

BobY · 03-16-2007, 05:26 PM

It does matter if you're a studio.

The only reason for a studio to support Blu-Ray exclusively is the belief that BD will sell in enormous numbers compared to HD DVD (like Sony promised). If that isn't happening then there's no good reason to be exclusive and the bean counters, investors, financial analysts, creditors and banks are going to say so.

This is all about money and Sony doesn't want anybody thinking that maybe they'll make more money if they support both formats.

tcarcio · 03-16-2007, 05:52 PM

See I told you they would start to cry...BOO HOO

Jimmy Smith · 03-16-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I guess math is not what you are studying in college Jimmy.

BD sales of 20,000/33,000 = 60.606%. That puts it at 60.606% NOT over 70%.

Geez. How can you think you could boost the numbers like that and not get called out on it? Also, if you read the whole article they even say that it is not a fair apples to apples comparison since the HD DVD version is more expensive and some probably picked the BD version to save $5.00 on the cost.

All The Departed did was let the studios know (hopefully) that combos cannot be priced higher than a non-combo movie or else it will hurt sales of that movie. ?

Okay 60% still alot higher given how many more Blu-Ray titles were avalible this should have outsold the Blu-Ray version by a good margin if more titles was the only reason for Blu-Rays higher sales.

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Originally Posted by PFC5

If you count all the PS3s sold that would give the BD camp over 5:1 player margin yet the movie sales difference (with hardly any HD DVD movies released) are only about 2:1. What does that tell you Jimmy?

Wow you HD-DVD fans have lost your minds. Who mutherfuckin cares about the fucking attachment rate. If Blu-Ray was selling more to people who didn't own HD players it wouldn't fucking matter. All that matters are total movie sales. Which format gives studios the ability to sell more titles. PFC5 you really are smarter then to use such a beyond stupid arguement.

Jimmy Smith · 03-16-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tcarcio

See I told you they would start to cry...BOO HOO

When HD-DVD has 600 titles Blu-Ray will have over a 1,000

03-16-2007, 04:07 PM	#1
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03-16-2007, 05:02 PM	#7
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,377	I think BD is pulling out all the stops to try to convince everyone that BD is going to win this war in a couple of months by offering 2 bd movies for the price of 1, and releasing a lot of movies during a time when they already knew HD DVD has a lull in new releases coming. I am really, how many HD DVD movies were released since mid December 2006 and through 3/31/07? there has been about 5-6 times more BD movie releases compared to HD DVD releases during the same time period, so of course sales are going to reflect this. Don't get me wrong, I think Sony is doing the smart thing, and Toshiba/Universal dropped the ball with a 3+ month lull in new releases, but what is Sony/BDA going to do/say when the HD DVD releases start coming out like water from my faucet and HD DVD movie sales come back? This war is many years from being over and all studios SHOULD release in both formats and let the consumer decide. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

03-16-2007, 05:22 PM	#11
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,377	I guess math is not what you are studying in college Jimmy. BD sales of 20,000/33,000 = 60.606%. That puts it at 60.606% NOT over 70%. Geez. How can you think you could boost the numbers like that and not get called out on it? Also, if you read the whole article they even say that it is not a fair apples to apples comparison since the HD DVD version is more expensive and some probably picked the BD version to save $5.00 on the cost. All The Departed did was let the studios know (hopefully) that combos cannot be priced higher than a non-combo movie or else it will hurt sales of that movie. If you count all the PS3s sold that would give the BD camp over 5:1 player margin yet the movie sales difference (with hardly any HD DVD movies released) are only about 2:1. What does that tell you Jimmy? __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

03-16-2007, 04:16 PM	#2
tcarcio High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: MA. Posts: 1,633	Shhhhhhhhhhh, The bd fanboys will start crying again.

03-16-2007, 05:26 PM	#12
BobY What's all this, then?... Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,197	It does matter if you're a studio. The only reason for a studio to support Blu-Ray exclusively is the belief that BD will sell in enormous numbers compared to HD DVD (like Sony promised). If that isn't happening then there's no good reason to be exclusive and the bean counters, investors, financial analysts, creditors and banks are going to say so. This is all about money and Sony doesn't want anybody thinking that maybe they'll make more money if they support both formats.

03-16-2007, 05:52 PM	#13
tcarcio High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: MA. Posts: 1,633	See I told you they would start to cry...BOO HOO