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Old 02-16-2007, 06:17 PM   #1
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Angry Bill Hunt Is At It Again!

I don't know if you have seen today's editorial by Bill Hunt on his website The Digital Bits.

He is again trying to influence the consumer of Hi Def DVD's to E-Mail Universal Studios and ask them to start to also back BD! he feels that this could end the format war within a matter of weeks!

So I used the link to the E-mail and pleaded with Universal to PLEASE continue to support HDDVD. It was a good decision a year ago . . .its still a good decision today.

Why do something that will put more revenue into your competitors pockets? And Sony IS a compeitior of Universal's

I also wrote a personal E-Mail to Bill admonishing his new found power (that he thinks that he has) to try to influence consumers as opposed to do what he has done since the inception of his website ( I have been following the bits since their very beginning) and that is to report the news and review DVD's.

I think Bill has become a wannebe in the consumer electronics/movie industry. He thinks he can make news as opposed to just reporting it.

So here is an opportunity to tell Universal how you feel. . .either way . . .with or against HDDVD/BD.

He is losing more and more creditibilty as he continues to take this stance against HDDVD and supports BD.

Shame on you Bill. Well . . ." Ultimate Power Ultimately Corrupts!"

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Old 02-16-2007, 06:23 PM   #2
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My sentiment exactly, Lee. I'm not elaborating on my part right now only because it would involve saying really bad things and I'll probably regret it. BTW, I posted his piece of shit article in the other thread.
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Hypocrites at their finest.
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:29 PM   #4
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My sentiment exactly, Lee. I'm not elaborating on my part right now only because it would involve saying really bad things and I'll probably regret it. BTW, I posted his piece of shit article in the other thread.
What does this Guru of the HD vs Blu-Ray debate have to say about the loss of the prime advantage of the Blu-Ray camp, that they no longer have built in protection in their disc system that will protect against unauthorized copies being made.

Since we all know that hackers have already defeated that program, would that not logically make the profit minded studios look at HD vs Blu-Ray in a totally new light?

I'm not against Blu-Ray but, why would the studios pay more for production of a product that no longer provides the copy protection software they were willing to spend more for in the first place?

Would that not logically cause them to maybe shift to HD because of lower costs to produce?

Or am I wrong? Tell me if I'm seeing this development incorrectly.

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Go Bill Hunt. Hopefully he can end this war soon. We need an exit stratagy for this format war.
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Go Bill Hunt. Hopefully he can end this war soon. We need an exit stratagy for this format war.
Bill Hunt is nobody. A wannabe somebody who thinks he can influence more than he can. Watch him play the fool and lose all credibility when HD DVD comes back.
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Go Bill Hunt. Hopefully he can end this war soon. We need an exit stratagy for this format war.
Damn you Jimmy Smith,,,you have me thoughts agreeing with you.
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Bill Hunt is nobody. A wannabe somebody who thinks he can influence more than he can. Watch him play the fool and lose all credibility when HD DVD comes back.

That would definately be funny. What I don't understand is the kind of risk he is taking by becoming such an activist in this format war. If it ends up blowing up in his face, his career would be over as he would be a joke.
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he already is a Joke
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For some unknown reason, and I will elabeorate about this in a second, Bill has climbed off the fence and has thrown his personal support and the supposed support of his website into the BluRay Disc camp.

But I smell some kind of a Faustian Pact here going on. Here are some facts that I have gleamed over the past few days and please bear with me if they are redundant to you. I will use HD DVD to define Hi Definition DVD's, HDDVD to define the Toshiba platform and BRD for Blue Ray Disc. Now those facts:

1. HD DVD is a worldwide marketplace.

2. There are currently 1.2 Billion 4x3 "normal TV's " in the world.

3. There are currently 48 Million HDTV's in the world.

4. The USA buys 58% of the worlds output of HDTV's, Japan buys 20% and Europe and Asia at 22%.

5. Here in the USA 85% of the Studio OUTPUT (# of movies made) is committed to BRD. Remaining 15% to HDDVD

6. In Europe and Asia, 60% are committed to HDDVD. Remaining 40% to BRD

7. Japan seems to be 50/50 for HDDVD and BRD.

We here in the USA represent almost 60% of the HDTV marketplace. That is more than 1/2.

Sony feels that if they can "lockup" the 60% here, then the other 40% will follow suit.

Over the long haul (10 to 20 years) the dollars involved in the transition to HDTV is almost $1,000,000,000,000 . . .thats right . . .one trillion dollars (consists of HDTV Sets and HD DVD units) Remember . . .this figure does not include Software (movies). You can add another 300 to 500 Billion for the same timeframe

Now how does all of this tie in with Bill Hunt and The Digital Bits?

He has a very successful and one of the oldest (if not THE oldest) websites on the internet concerning DVD (and all of its varities).

With the kind of money involved, the rules are . . .there are no rules!

I will not accuse ANYONE of a breach of ethics unless I had positive proof of such an infraction.

Why all of a sudden has he changed his fence sitting position (or worse when he advised readers not to do anything until the format war was settled least they buy a loser) and come out and championed for BRD? This happened last week! And twice!

Why not come out and say ," Anyone who buys a RPTV is wasting his/her money. . . a dead technology . . .Plasma and LCD are going to bury it with the next 18 months!" The industry is leaning towards this . . .but he is silent.

Why is he so adamint AGAINST a format war? When believe it or not, this war is GOOD for the consumer (his readers). It is driving prices down much faster than if there was 1 choice only. (In 1 year the price of the HDDVD player has dropped by 50%). It took over 2 years for this to happen with SD/DVD.

All the other websites I read (about 10) do nothing more than report the news as it happens. But this morning I watched a 2 minute clip on one of the sites titled "HDTV and 1080P" and it was nothing more than a website sponsored 2 minute commerical for SONY! No other brand was shown!

I have spent 30 years in sales and marketing and I know two things that are right as rain:

1. If you are ahead of the compeition, pour more profits into advertising.

2. If you are behind the competition, then throw EVERYTHING you got at it cause your company's life may be at stake.

SIDENOTE: I would have loved to been at the meeting at Sony when they decided to make their first VHS VCR!

Back to Bill Hunt:

His website attracts early adopters. Without these people ANY new technology (read expensive) will fail. The list of great products sitting in the junkyard is too long to discuss.

Due to Hollywood and their piracy concerns, it was decided that HDMI was to be the connection of choice for HDTV. That left a few million owners of Component and RGB HDTV set owners in the dust.

They made large (at the time) investments in RPTV's, HD/CRTS and Frt. PJ's VERY angry.

I don't know about you but I expect to get at least 7 years and possibly 10 years out of my brand new Samsung 5053. Not 2 or 3 for those mentioned previously.

Joe Six Pack is just now getting into HDTV. He has available HD sources like OTA (free), Cable and Sat. Eventually he will get interested in HD DVD cause he already has a DVD player.

But for J6P to get involved the format has to survive long enough for manufacturing costs to go down so his price range is met . . .and according to surveys done around the world . . .according to Joe . . .MONEY is first, second and third as far as concerns.

HD DVD is in its infancy . . .less than 1 year old. Take out the PS3 and there have been less then 350,000 HD DVD players sold . . .worldwide! To a potential marketplace of approximately 40 million . . .less than 1% market penatration!

So do you wait for your competition to get stronger when the fight begins . . .or do you try to end the war before it really gets started?

Once again . . .the rule is there are no rules . . .

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Old 02-19-2007, 02:52 PM   #11
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Nice piece Lee, Lets hope for all our sakes SONY doesnt win. For them to be in total control could spell disaster for us.
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Very good post Lee, but HD-DVD has much more than 15% of the movies.
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As I see it and I might be wrong, yeah he does seem to have become a Blu ray boy now, but most of what he says IS true.

The ONE thing that was absurd was him begging Universal to support Blu-ray 100%.

That's just NOT going to happen. That would be like Fox saying they were going to start supporting HD-dvd.
They will do that when pigs fly. That's the mistake that Hunt made to suggest that will happen.
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:42 AM   #14
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Brian:

What I think Bill did, after looking back, was take an opportune time (HD DVD was very quiet last week and try to use his influence (for reasons unknown) so he could be a hero.

Ever since he championed for the death of DIVX and pulled it off (not too hard in my opinion) his stature in the industry grew "as a voice to be recokened with."

Unfortunately this really didn't get him anywhere in his next "Listen to Bill . . .I know what I am talking about" effort . . .to have a single platform for High Definition DVD. Here with all of his pleadings and e-mails campaigns . . .he failed. And hey . . .no surprise. We are talking about Billions and Billions of dollars at stake for the winner so his crys weren't even heard.

Well in the last 24 hours HD DVD has announced 4 new titles. And Old Blue Ray Bill hasn't posted a SINGLE ONE on his website. For the man with the inside info, how is it the Lee Stewart . . .a nobody, knows about this and Bill Hunt doesn't? Or maybe he does . . .

Like I asked in the beginning . . . WHY NOW?
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Well, I don't know WHY NOW.

But all I was saying was in spite of all the crap he's getting on here. He was basically accurate.

btw, I LOVE hd-dvd I have the Toshiba A1 player and love it.
but the facts are the facts.

I dunno what's going to happen, but it's cool that hd-dvd is putting out more titles.
Maybe Hunt has an agenda, maybe he doesn't. If he does and hd-dvd continues to gain momentum he'll do himself a lot of harm.

But what he said was like someone else saying "Fox should go all hd-dvd, but I'm NOT a hd-dvd fanboy!"

If he hadn't suggested Uni go blu-ray he would have made some interesting observations.

If Hunt really doesn't have any influence over many people like you guys claim (I don't know one way or the other) don't worry so much about it.

It's not like Uni will go blu-ray, and so what if a guy running a website stops being neutral and supports blu-ray?
There's always that other hd site. Hi def digest.
I go to many sites where I know the people in charge have biases you just take that into account and move on.

HD-DVD won't suffer b/c of what Hunt says.

I read an interview with Amir on the hi-def digest site this morning and he said that he predicts hd-dvd and blu-ray will co-exist together like the xbox and ps2 have.

I thought in the beginning that the war was over before it started and that blu-ray was the de-facto winner. Then hd-dvd came out and kicked ass.
So all the blu-ray fanboys who want it to die, won't get their wish; at least any time soon.

I think Amir is right, they will exist side by side.
It doesn't make any sense to me that ANY studio would support only one format.
Why limit yourself to just one group of people? A studio can make more money supprting both formats so why don't they?

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