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Old 01-22-2007, 10:50 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Blu-ray vs. HD DVD sales at DVDEmpire

Format: HD-DVD Blu-Ray
Month: 42.35% 57.65% (+15.30% for Blu-ray)
Week: 40.55% 59.45% (+18.90% for Blu-ray)
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I usually don't like what you have to say, but I can't IGNORE you either.

I agree, it is kinda fun to watch GLOW just dig for anything close to proving that his wonderful/gotta have it Blu-Ray DVD players are going to win (although most of his proof ultimately gets shown to be mis-leading at best).

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most of his proof ultimately gets shown to be mis-leading at best
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Format: HD-DVD Blu-Ray
Month: 42.35% 57.65% (+15.30% for Blu-ray)
Week: 40.55% 59.45% (+18.90% for Blu-ray)
Ha GLOW how come you forgot to add in the last sales statistic, which is listed RIGHT under the month and week sales.

Year: 58.03% 41.97% (+16.06% for HD DVD)
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Ha GLOW how come you forgot to add in the last sales statistic, which is listed RIGHT under the month and week sales.

Year: 58.03% 41.97% (+16.06% for HD DVD)
That is so 2006.
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HD DVD is still the winner in my Book. Started as the Underdog, kicked Blu Rays Butt initially.Not as many Studios, now less titles available and still they have much better quality releases. And to add the PS3 is a piece of Garbage, thanks Sony for screwing up again.
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A temporary upswing in sales doesn't matter, BD is built on the PS3, which is already a failure.

It would not surprise me in the least if Sony was buying BD movies to makes the sales numbers go up. They've already given us phony movie critics, phony PSP fansites, phony mockups of what PS3 games would look like, etc.
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A temporary upswing in sales doesn't matter, BD is built on the PS3, which is already a failure.

It would not surprise me in the least if Sony was buying BD movies to makes the sales numbers go up. They've already given us phony movie critics, phony PSP fansites, phony mockups of what PS3 games would look like, etc.
More likely PS3 sales might be driving it up there. But the real question is with PS3 owners sustain their purchasing? Or is it a couple when they get the PS3 just to try it out?
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And to add the PS3 is a piece of Garbage, thanks Sony for screwing up again.
WTF??? Explain, please.
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A temporary upswing in sales doesn't matter, BD is built on the PS3, which is already a failure.
How is the PS3 a failure? It is selling 5X as well as every HD DVD player combined.

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LOL. OK, you have gone beyond simple fanboyism and into the realm of pathetic trolling, Mr. creepy guy who takes pictures of himself in the mirror. That's okay, though. You've got that bad boy Saddam look. Chicks dig that.
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More likely PS3 sales might be driving it up there. But the real question is with PS3 owners sustain their purchasing? Or is it a couple when they get the PS3 just to try it out?
Two factors will make the PS3 attach rate nosedive.

1) All the Blu-ray fans who have waited for the PS3 for all this time now have it. Also they had to do some catching up on the titles and now they'll start slowing down (comparatively) their movie buying.

2) The "killer apps" will come out and all the gamers and casual gamers who were biding their time by checking out a few BD movies will henceforth use the PS3 almost exclusively for what it was made for: gaming.

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How is the PS3 a failure? It is selling 5X as well as every HD DVD player combined.
Because sales have slowed to a crawl, and there is little good news on the horizon. From a gamer's standpoint the price cannot be justified, and most gamers don't care about Blu-Ray movies. At this point a game console should still be hard to find like the Wii is, but it's not. It's expensive to develop for and costs more, it has a smaller install base and thus developers will be leaving it in droves to support the 360 and Wii.

Software is what drives game systems, not movies, and the PS3 is really lacking. Unless money is a trivial matter for you, it makes no sense for a gamer to buy a PS3 now

To compare its sales to HD-DVD players is an apples-to-oranges comparison.

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LOL. OK, you have gone beyond simple fanboyism and into the realm of pathetic trolling, Mr. creepy guy who takes pictures of himself in the mirror. That's okay, though. You've got that bad boy Saddam look. Chicks dig that.
First of all, nothing I'm saying is so out of line that it isn't already being said by game industry figures like Gabe Newell and by some analysts now as well. The writing is on the wall for Sony, but this is not a gaming forum and so I won't go into great detail about that.

Second of all, I'm not making up the phony movie critic, phony fansite, etc. That all happened. And there have been cases of authors, publishers, literary agents and the like buying up copies of their books to get a high ranking on the best-seller lists, so that is not unheard of even if Sony hasn't done it before. They've installed ROOTKITS in CDs being sold to consumers and deliberately, flatly lied to the public about the PS3's graphical power by showing prerendered clips and claiming it represented gameplay. You act like my criticism is pure fanboyism or trolling, but all I'm doing is calling them out on their behavior and speculating on what else they might do.

Is it more fanboyish to defend or turn a blind eye towards this stuff?

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Old 01-22-2007, 07:11 PM   #14
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To compare its sales to HD-DVD players is an apples-to-oranges comparison.
It is selling better than both the PS2 and the 360 at the same point in their lifespans. The PS2 was an enormous success and the 360 is supposedly doing very well. Considering the PS3 has barely any decent games on it, it's doing very well. Why am I talking about gaming? This isn't a gaming forum. We are talking about Blu-ray and HD DVD. As a Blu-ray player, the PS3 is doing extremely well. That is what matters. Not which console is easier to develop for, has better games, etc. Take it to the gaming forum. The PS3 is the best $600 I've ever spent.


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It is selling better than both the PS2 and the 360 at the same point in their lifespans. The PS2 was an enormous success and the 360 is supposedly doing very well. Considering the PS3 has barely any decent games on it, it's doing very well.
The 360 suffered from manufacturing shortages that dwarfed the shortages the PS3 faced, so you cannot say demand was less when supply was not comparable. As for the PS2, the claim that the PS3 performed better for a certain period after launch is based on the number of consoles *shipped* not *sold*. Remember, when Sony (or MS) says "sold" they mean "shipped to retailers" because technically they are "bought" by the retailers. It does not accurately reflect demand.

From anecdotal evidence to scientific surveys, all signs point to the PS3's demand being very low. It is easy to find one on store shelves only three months after launch. Sony fanboys cannot see that this is because it doesn't offer anything to the average gamer, and it is first and foremost a game machine. As Bruce pointed out, those who are interested in using it as a BD player have already bought it.

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Why am I talking about gaming? This isn't a gaming forum. We are talking about Blu-ray and HD DVD. As a Blu-ray player, the PS3 is doing extremely well. That is what matters. Not which console is easier to develop for, has better games, etc. Take it to the gaming forum. The PS3 is the best $600 I've ever spent.
But you do not see that the average consumer is not interested in the PS3, in spite of how much it appeals to you. The BD aspect appeals to a minority of a minority (those few HDTV owners who know enough to seek out HD content) as does HD-DVD. Right now BD is most heavily backed by the same people who backed UMD and Divx. It's wide studio support was based on the assumption that the PS3 would have the success of its predecessors. It hasn't come close. The GAMECUBE performed better than the PS3 at this point in its lifespan.

The PS3's success or failure as a *game machine* is what will decide the fate of BD, so it is important to at least touch upon how it is doing. On a console where a publisher needs to sell at least 500,000 copies of a game to break even you can *only* get wide support *if* your install base is huge, but the PS3 is quickly being left behind by its competitors. By the time MGS4 and FFXIII come out it will be too little, too late.
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