Best Buy pulling HD DVD !!!!

maicaw · 08-28-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by junehhan

No matter what some commie bastard, or some far left wing nutjob will say, that's the beauty of capitalism.. .

[some of] us blue people think those left wing bastard nut jobs are really right - even intelligent
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PFC5 · 08-28-2006, 08:03 PM

The Soviet Union proved even with military might/threats, socialism does not work in the long run. The most public people on the side of socialism, are the very same people who will be exempted from giving equally and probably support it because they no they will be part of the elite within any socialism based economy.

Bigloww · 08-28-2006, 10:07 PM

junehhan · 08-28-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

The Soviet Union proved even with military might/threats, socialism does not work in the long run. The most public people on the side of socialism, are the very same people who will be exempted from giving equally and probably support it because they no they will be part of the elite within any socialism based economy.

Not only that, but there is nothing positive that will ever come from radical extremism. Look at Europe if you want to know how well socialism works in the long run. The funny thing, is that they had the never to make fun of our unemployment and economy several years ago when their unemployment rates are 3 to even 4 times higher depending on region. The idea of libertarian ssocialism is a irony in itself IMHO as socialists are about controlling people, not about giving them freedom.

Bigloww · 08-28-2006, 11:00 PM

But Europe is now open to HDTV and all it's glory. So it will be all better now..

dontknowjack · 08-28-2006, 11:34 PM

Since when did this turn into a political forum?

**bruceames** · 08-28-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dontknowjack

Since when did this turn into a political forum?

Oh, didn't you hear? There was big announcement about it last week.

CC TV GUY · 08-29-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by iserum

best buy and CC salesman are least knowledgebale only couple at store what they are doing. most of them are high school kids or freshmen at collage, they tend to lean customer to high margin item. I was recently at CC and asked the mangaer about details on Xbox 360, he introduce me to a associate (high school student) by sayig she is my Xbox expert you can ask any questions about X box, my first question was, Will Xbox 360 plays old games, she could not answer it, she was a bit uncomfertable in that moment, as she was introuced as an expert few minutes ago.

Usually the line at BB ac CC s whatever stuff u are looking at is the best.
if you ask for tv they should first ask for viewing distance light condition in room etc. etc. but only few might ask these questions.

In regard to BD at BB and CC they always prefer BD over HD DVD player, i think the margin on 1K item is more than $500 player.

Thats why one of the two you mentioned just hired me to come over and help them train their associates in my area on HT equipment

Of course I don't know everything but I believe your post is the common perception of the average sales associate (I generally have the same)

PFC5 · 08-29-2006, 01:09 PM

More knowledgable salesmen are always a good thing for the general public at large.

neil_west · 08-30-2006, 12:59 AM

I can still remember the BB sales guy in New York who insisted I could plug the Xbox 360 he was about to sell me straight into a 240volt socket back home.

Revolv · 09-04-2006, 09:05 AM

Sony just announced yesterday that the formar Soviet Union has signed up to support Bluray also

(Hah! I kill me!)

BobY · 09-21-2006, 08:08 AM

I stopped by Best Buy yesterday and wasn't pleased.

They had two prominent Samsung Blu-Ray setups with big-screen displays (ironically one of them was a Toshiba) while HD DVD was relegated to a slot next to the portable DVD players hooked up to a 20" LCD and neither the player or display were on with no disc there to play. This despite the fact that they had a bigger selection of HD DVD's on hand than Blu-Ray (both racks looked full, but on closer examination, there were a lot of duplicates in the Blu-Ray rack).

The one Samsung was connected to a Sony Bravia XBR LCD and was showing "Chicken Little", which looked amazing, but, after all, it is CGI, so it doesn't pose any challenge for digital systems as far as PQ is concerned (it looks great on standard DVD as well).

The other Samsung was hooked to a Toshiba PDP and was playing "Gladiator", which I presume was a standard DVD being upconverted. It looked pretty bad. All of the bright scenes had an unnatural "sparkle" to them (which could possibly have been the fault of the display) and the motion in fast action shots was very jerky (which I don't think was the display).

Regardless, I'm not sure what to make of that--you'd think if BB was pushing Blu-Ray and dumping HD DVD, they would have been playing an actual Blu-Ray disc, particularly one that looked good.

rockaway1836 · 09-21-2006, 08:31 AM

It's seems to be more of a store to store thing. At my local BB they have both formats on side by side end caps. The way both BB and CC display their items will always be a mystery to me. Let's face it. How long did it take them to actually have an HD source to feed all the HD TVs they had on display.

08-28-2006, 08:03 PM	#32
PFC5 Former Super Moderator - RIP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 38,295	The Soviet Union proved even with military might/threats, socialism does not work in the long run. The most public people on the side of socialism, are the very same people who will be exempted from giving equally and probably support it because they no they will be part of the elite within any socialism based economy. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier PSN: PFC5

08-29-2006, 01:09 PM	#39
PFC5 Former Super Moderator - RIP Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 38,295	More knowledgable salesmen are always a good thing for the general public at large. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier PSN: PFC5

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08-28-2006, 11:00 PM	#35
Bigloww "Shitter was Full" Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In a van, down by the river. Posts: 8,319	But Europe is now open to HDTV and all it's glory. So it will be all better now..

08-28-2006, 11:34 PM	#36
dontknowjack High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 949	Since when did this turn into a political forum?

08-30-2006, 12:59 AM	#40
neil_west HD in Africa! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Age: 31 Posts: 60	I can still remember the BB sales guy in New York who insisted I could plug the Xbox 360 he was about to sell me straight into a 240volt socket back home.

09-04-2006, 09:05 AM	#41
Revolv HD Technophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Age: 47 Posts: 463	Sony just announced yesterday that the formar Soviet Union has signed up to support Bluray also (Hah! I kill me!)

09-21-2006, 08:08 AM	#42
BobY What's all this, then?... Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,197	I stopped by Best Buy yesterday and wasn't pleased. They had two prominent Samsung Blu-Ray setups with big-screen displays (ironically one of them was a Toshiba) while HD DVD was relegated to a slot next to the portable DVD players hooked up to a 20" LCD and neither the player or display were on with no disc there to play. This despite the fact that they had a bigger selection of HD DVD's on hand than Blu-Ray (both racks looked full, but on closer examination, there were a lot of duplicates in the Blu-Ray rack). The one Samsung was connected to a Sony Bravia XBR LCD and was showing "Chicken Little", which looked amazing, but, after all, it is CGI, so it doesn't pose any challenge for digital systems as far as PQ is concerned (it looks great on standard DVD as well). The other Samsung was hooked to a Toshiba PDP and was playing "Gladiator", which I presume was a standard DVD being upconverted. It looked pretty bad. All of the bright scenes had an unnatural "sparkle" to them (which could possibly have been the fault of the display) and the motion in fast action shots was very jerky (which I don't think was the display). Regardless, I'm not sure what to make of that--you'd think if BB was pushing Blu-Ray and dumping HD DVD, they would have been playing an actual Blu-Ray disc, particularly one that looked good.

09-21-2006, 08:31 AM	#43
rockaway1836 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,042	It's seems to be more of a store to store thing. At my local BB they have both formats on side by side end caps. The way both BB and CC display their items will always be a mystery to me. Let's face it. How long did it take them to actually have an HD source to feed all the HD TVs they had on display.