HD footage compressed to dvd level is a disapointment

PSound · 04-16-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bruceames

You can record HD content on a DVD, but it won't play on a DVD player. That is the problem for this filmmaker, as most people only have a DVD player.

That is the core issue.

HD can be out on a DVD, but a DVD player cannot play it back. It is pretty easy for individuals and small companies to distribute HD video over the internet, but it is more difficult to get it OTT (onto a TV display vs an iPad, computer, etc).

DonnyDC · 04-16-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Malanthius

The reality is probably 1 tablet per household on average simply due to price. And 2-3 Bluray players per household. Again due to price. You can keep throwing those percentages around. I think they are way off. I know way more people with tablets than I do with Bluray players.

I must live in a bubble. /end sarcasm.

Quite the bubble. Average 2-3 blu ray players? you must live in avsforum.

Malanthius · 04-16-2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

Quite the bubble. Average 2-3 blu ray players? you must live in avsforum.

I never go to that site. You really think once someone goes Bluray they will only own one player with prices this low? Limiting those movies to be played in one room?

How many Bluray players do you own? I had 4. Gave one away.

DonnyDC · 04-17-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Malanthius

I never go to that site. You really think once someone goes Bluray they will only own one player with prices this low? Limiting those movies to be played in one room?

Thats what combo discs are for.
I do think BD is mostly a home theater format. And I believe most households have either 1 or 0 HT setups. I dont think many people will have bd players in their bedrooms unless its a PS3.

HD Goofnut · 04-17-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Malanthius

I never go to that site. You really think once someone goes Bluray they will only own one player with prices this low? Limiting those movies to be played in one room?

How many Bluray players do you own? I had 4. Gave one away.

I have 5 and I use every one of them regularly.

Malanthius · 04-17-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

Thats what combo discs are for.
I do think BD is mostly a home theater format. And I believe most households have either 1 or 0 HT setups. I dont think many people will have bd players in their bedrooms unless its a PS3.

I don't buy it. I think enthusiasts are the main buyers of this format still. And with prices this low they are going to want a Player attached to every HD set they own to take advantage of that new disc. Who knows what to actual number is. But I wouldn't be suprised to find 25-50% of owners owning more than one player. Just look at us here? What percent only own 1 player? We need a poll.

Malanthius · 04-17-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I have 5 and I use every one of them regularly.

We skew the numbers big time!

Kosty · 04-17-2012, 08:43 AM

We are not normal consumers here.

jkkyler · 04-17-2012, 08:49 AM

I have 4 and although I can play bd on each one the main reason I have 2 is because those tv's aren't hooked up to sat/cable and since the digital transition signal strength is no longer adequate as the broadcast towers are over 70 miles away but with wifi I can stream hulu + netflix + youtube and that is 95% of what those players are used for - I have not seen netflix or hulu ion a dvd player. I now have a roku box which makes one of my bd players for the most part redundant (unless of course I want to watch a blu-ray disc which I would do mainly on either of my larger tv's pr projector). I regularly see sub $70 blu-ray players which is what I used to pay for dvd players for many years.

DoctorCAD · 04-17-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kosty

We are not normal consumers here.

That's better...

dangerdoc · 04-17-2012, 11:28 AM

posting error

dangerdoc · 04-17-2012, 11:41 AM

In my age bracket, I know a lot of people that have purchased multiple BD players to stream Netflix. They are still buying DVDs.

My brother has a BD player for the small screen in his bedroom and still uses a DVD/VCR player for the big screen in his living room.

I buy combo packs, BD to play in the house, DVDs to rip for the phone and tablet.

Cygnus · 04-17-2012, 01:18 PM

Dual layer DVD will give you more space. If the person has a 360 (or PS3?) then you can convert the video to mpeg4 which will give you plenty of space for HD content on a DVD.

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Originally Posted by newfielander

Thats all you have?? Yes a Blu Ray player is great, but this isn't the top player that everyone is using.So its not much good duplicating my master production to Blu ray when most everyone have only a dvd player.

**rbinck** · 04-17-2012, 05:18 PM

There may be a question as to whether the OP was wanting to distribute his video or just use it for his own use. Most of the discussions of using either a single layer or dual layer DVD to record HD video is valid for his own use, but probably not if he wants to distribute the video to the masses. Personally, I use a lot of hard drives for my videos with media players at the TVs. DVD recording I find to be a real pain myself.

I did author some DVDs that my wife's uncle shot at their Model A meet which he shot on a Sony HD camera. I just used VideoReDo to edit it which was mainly combining files down to fit on 2 DVDs with good quality and then using convertXtoDVD to author and burn the DVDs. I thought the quality was as good as commercial DVDs and not nearly as bad as the OP describes his results.

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04-17-2012, 05:18 PM	#29
rbinck Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 15,598	There may be a question as to whether the OP was wanting to distribute his video or just use it for his own use. Most of the discussions of using either a single layer or dual layer DVD to record HD video is valid for his own use, but probably not if he wants to distribute the video to the masses. Personally, I use a lot of hard drives for my videos with media players at the TVs. DVD recording I find to be a real pain myself. I did author some DVDs that my wife's uncle shot at their Model A meet which he shot on a Sony HD camera. I just used VideoReDo to edit it which was mainly combining files down to fit on 2 DVDs with good quality and then using convertXtoDVD to author and burn the DVDs. I thought the quality was as good as commercial DVDs and not nearly as bad as the OP describes his results. __________________ www.highdefinitionblog.com www.BlogOfHawaii.com

04-17-2012, 11:41 AM	#27
dangerdoc ------------------------- Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 668	In my age bracket, I know a lot of people that have purchased multiple BD players to stream Netflix. They are still buying DVDs. My brother has a BD player for the small screen in his bedroom and still uses a DVD/VCR player for the big screen in his living room. I buy combo packs, BD to play in the house, DVDs to rip for the phone and tablet.