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High Definition is the definition of life.
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It has been amazing this year to watch DVD sell through revenue break it's former steep decline trend. Indeed, it is really the only trend so far in 2012 that has broken significantly from expectations.
The resiliency of DVD is certainly amazing, especially when it has been obsoleted by Blu-ray technology. |
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It is amazing. Doing much better than can be expected and it's evidenced by seeing it's market share actually increase from 73.0% in Q4 2011 to 76.1% this quarter (with only one week to go).
The norm last year was DVD declining 20% and Blu-ray increasing 20%. This year it's DVD declining only 5.5% and Blu-ray increasing 27.8%. To put that in perspective, one can calculate the deviation from the 2011 "norm" in terms of revenue change. If DVD was 20% down, per the 2011 norm, then its revenue would be $216 million lower so far this year. Blu-ray, by the same token, would be $27 million lower. So in effect DVD is contributing 89% of the OD improvement and thus is 89% responsible for OD actually being up this year.
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Even with DVD being obsoleted by Blu-ray. |
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I fully expect BD YoY % to decline as OD normalizes, and the special 2011 patterns (Star Wars catalog being a big one) get accounted into the YTD metric. That said, DVD is still performing unexpected and exceptionally well even with BO strength. |
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And there is no Star Wars effect this year. That release alone probably did about 75-80% of the revenue that Avatar did through the first month of sales(selling about 1/5 the copies but at 4x the price). Last year catalog releases were way up across the board, but this year so far they are down from last year.
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The trio of Avengers, Dark Knight and Hunger Games should help Blu-ray this year, but probably not enough to get it above 20% growth for the year. Nothing too exciting there. Again, the story of the year is DVDs performance. Without it's relative strength, this year would be pretty much looking just like last year. |
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At this point at week 12, Blu-ray last year was +8.09% up in the cumulative YoY stats. This year Blu-ray is +27.60% YoY up in the same metric. That's certainly not "pretty much looking just like last year." ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Blu-ray will in all probability have a decrease in the YoY metric for the next couple weeks until Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol hits home video but its still well above last year's pace and there is no Avatar and Alice in Wonderland to compare with to destroy the YoY comparisons. Until mid September there is not a lot of 2011 strength to depress the metrics significantly once we get past the next 4 weeks of comparisons. There will be a few new to Blu-ray catalog titles that should fill in somewhat the new to Blu-ray Star Wars slots this year, including Indiana Jones and Titanic. Plus this year will have Hunger Games and the theatrical release in November of the final chapter of Twilight Saga which may have a halo effect on the Blu-ray sales of the previous releases. Nothing is set in stone about the box office dropping off its pace substantially either as well but of course as usual much depends on the strength and performance of the summer releases.
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That greatly affected the DVD numbers and Blu-ray as well and had no matching type release in 1Q 2011. Because of the unique nature of that title its probable that that TBO and its affect on home video is not sustainable at that level. But so far this year the theatrical box office is well up and those titles are already filling up the que for 2Q 2012 releases. So by the end of 1H 2012 its likely the TBO will still be up.
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The magnitude of the DVD sales of Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part I are the driving force in the DVD sales improvement so far this year.
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Removing Twilight by taking those figures off the top gives DVD up 10.4% and Blu-ray up 19.3%. Per the -20% DVD and +20% BD 2011 norms, DVD is still contributing $142 more than the expected amount and Blu-ray actually doing $3 million worse. Thank God Twilight happened for Blu-ray. It would be trending downwards without it, even with box office still up 7% without it. DVD however would still be doing significantly better.
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Twilight is just one of many movies released in the quarter. Must you mention it in every post? We know box office is up 22%. Twilight is a part of that. It is NOT Twilight + box office up 22%.
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