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High Definition is the definition of life.
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Dang! 2% growth for Christmas week?! Ouch! Thanks for the update Chip. Looks like Bruce was pretty close with his guess. Maybe others? I only remember him guessing around 100m. I'm thinking Bluray is going to end up flat to negitive next year. Unless it gets a few Avatar big releases. Catalog is pretty much done except for Indy. I think we are near the peak.
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High Definition is the definition of life.
Join Date: Oct 2011
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It took some time, but BD finally broke the $100 million barrier in 2011.
But with 2.2% growth it will bring down the YoY number even further.
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Muscle Cars Forever!
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High Definition is the definition of life.
Join Date: May 2005
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Hey guys, releases matter. Just a reminder.
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Muscle Cars Forever!
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Muscle Cars Forever!
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Last edited by Lee Stewart; 01-09-2012 at 04:55 PM. |
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Updated thru week ending 12/17/11
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG) numbers are in (revenue) millions. Code:
2011 total 8430.07 -13.6% 6477.99 -20.1% 1952.08 18.7% 23.2% 9871.7 10725.0 Week Date OD OD YoY DVD DVD YoY BD BD YoY BD Share TBO2011 TBO2010 Q4 total 2950.98 -11.4% 2150.46 -18.9% 800.52 17.4% 27.1% 3634.1 3836.3 51 12/24 482.11 -13.1% 368.59 -16.9% 113.52 2.2% 23.5% 205.6 303.6 50 12/17 369.89 -23.4% 280.58 -26.8% 89.31 -10.1% 24.1% 360.7 635.3 49 12/10 322.48 -14.5% 243.85 -18.6% 78.63 1.5% 24.4% 624.8 535.6 48 12/3 229.49 -23.3% 173.97 -27.5% 55.52 -6.2% 24.2% 282.0 496.0 47 11/26 388.67 -12.4% 300.39 -16.5% 88.28 5.0% 22.7% 194.5 185.3 46 11/19 166.84 -14.3% 127.57 -18.0% 39.27 0.5% 23.5% 41.6 359.0 45 11/12 183.17 2.5% 128.95 -12.0% 54.22 68.3% 29.6% 422.9 251.3 44 11/5 167.53 -16.8% 117.59 -22.8% 49.94 2.0% 29.8% 335.6 414.9 43 10/29 147.15 11.2% 96.66 -11.3% 50.49 115.6% 33.6% 204.5 108.7 42 10/22 156.94 9.5% 95.94 -17.1% 61.00 120.8% 38.9% 370.0 56.0 41 10/15 152.92 -2.4% 106.50 -14.1% 46.42 42.2% 30.4% 343.3 233.0 40 10/8 183.79 9.3% 109.87 -9.4% 73.92 57.7% 40.2% 248.6 257.6 Q3 DEG 1742.79 -4.0% 1320.93 -14.7% 421.86 58.0% 24.2% Q3 total 1667.09 -4.9% 1298.39 -13.9% 368.70 49.9% 22.1% 1806.3 1609.5 39 10/1 152.58 -14.3% 109.97 -20.4% 42.61 7.1% 27.9% 352.1 382.7 38 9/24 153.60 5.0% 108.69 -12.5% 44.91 103.6% 29.2% 169.3 112.5 37 9/17 164.69 14.0% 107.37 -14.2% 57.32 197.2% 34.8% 190.8 165.2 36 9/10 128.84 0.0% 102.29 -10.5% 26.55 82.9% 20.6% 189.3 60.3 35 9/3 119.04 -9.5% 100.87 -13.7% 18.17 23.5% 15.3% 65.6 95.1 34 8/27 109.34 -13.1% 91.74 -16.6% 17.60 11.5% 16.1% 12.6 45.3 33 8/20 124.53 -4.4% 101.11 -12.8% 23.42 63.3% 18.8% 100.8 81.2 32 8/13 122.13 -1.8% 98.44 -9.5% 23.69 51.8% 19.4% 118.0 143.9 31 8/6 139.66 1.4% 111.78 -3.6% 27.88 27.9% 20.0% 189.8 133.5 30 7/30 108.78 -18.3% 89.06 -20.2% 19.72 -8.7% 18.1% 56.8 177.2 29 7/23 120.50 -1.9% 97.25 -9.4% 23.25 49.9% 19.3% 88.3 72.7 28 7/16 118.09 -4.8% 94.88 -13.5% 23.21 61.7% 19.7% 267.8 94.7 27 7/9 105.31 -16.7% 84.94 -22.7% 20.37 22.9% 19.3% 5.1 45.2 Q2 DEG 1831 -15.0% 1434 -18.8% 397 9.4% 21.7% Q2 total 1791.55 -12.2% 1402.94 -16.7% 388.61 9.1% 21.7% 2314.8 2422.0 26 7/2 127.11 -12.3% 96.32 -21.6% 30.79 39.4% 24.2% 102.3 181.4 25 6/25 123.25 -7.7% 98.18 -12.8% 25.07 20.1% 20.3% 205.4 85.8 24 6/18 149.89 -11.2% 114.68 -17.7% 35.21 19.5% 23.5% 208.2 142.8 23 6/11 130.81 -13.6% 103.23 -18.6% 27.58 12.3% 21.1% 305.0 152.6 22 6/4 118.16 -34.1% 96.17 -32.8% 21.99 -39.1% 18.6% 15.8 386.8 21 5/28 113.83 -16.6% 91.37 -22.9% 22.46 24.9% 19.7% 154.4 87.9 20 5/21 111.98 -15.2% 91.84 -18.9% 20.14 7.2% 18.0% 99.8 185.7 19 5/14 111.02 -23.6% 90.00 -26.8% 21.02 -6.2% 18.9% 155.6 113.6 18 5/7 122.05 -25.2% 99.74 -29.5% 22.31 -7.7% 18.3% 141.5 106.1 17 4/30 106.99 -40.6% 86.94 -39.6% 20.05 -44.5% 18.7% 0.0 120.5 16 4/23 217.30 -8.3% 171.47 -0.3% 45.83 -29.4% 21.1% 187.5 841.3 15 4/16 184.50 48.7% 134.40 24.8% 50.10 205.3% 27.2% 314.8 8.1 14 4/9 174.66 21.6% 128.60 5.9% 46.06 107.5% 26.5% 424.5 9.4 Q1 DEG 2068 -20.0% 1661 -25.0% 407 10.0% 19.7% Q1 total 2020.45 -23.2% 1626.20 -28.4% 394.25 9.4% 19.5% 2116.5 2857.2 13 4/2 192.11 -36.0% 144.16 -44.6% 47.95 20.1% 25.0% 300.9 461.1 12 3/26 135.54 -49.8% 110.21 -50.9% 25.33 -44.1% 18.7% 218.0 335.6 11 3/19 138.72 -46.5% 112.58 -49.6% 26.14 -27.1% 18.8% 154.2 534.3 10 3/12 146.96 -24.4% 116.11 -30.8% 30.85 16.5% 21.0% 177.0 247.2 9 3/5 174.59 -7.2% 132.93 -15.4% 41.66 34.1% 23.9% 112.3 258.8 8 2/26 160.96 4.5% 130.35 -2.5% 30.61 50.7% 19.0% 258.0 74.9 7 2/19 172.68 -8.1% 143.99 -12.7% 28.69 25.0% 16.6% 86.2 80.1 6 2/12 172.00 -19.4% 145.34 -23.1% 26.66 8.9% 15.5% 224.0 211.0 5 2/5 158.26 -16.7% 131.08 -20.8% 27.18 11.1% 17.2% 23.0 114.6 4 1/29 151.21 -14.6% 122.05 -20.9% 29.16 27.6% 19.3% 201.2 151.6 3 1/22 131.62 -16.3% 107.98 -21.0% 23.64 14.8% 18.0% 60.7 61.0 2 1/15 135.49 -17.3% 108.51 -23.9% 26.98 27.0% 19.9% 143.3 137.8 1 1/8 150.31 -14.1% 120.91 -19.5% 29.40 18.6% 19.6% 157.7 189.2 OD = optical disc (DVD + Blu-ray) YoY = year over year percentage change TBO = total box office BD = Blu-ray
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Actually the box office deficit this week wasn't that bad, down 32% ($205.6 vs. $303.6). The difference of that week 1 new release component is probably only worth about $10 million: $25 million last year vs. $15 million this year. If that $15 new release factor estimate is subtracted out of this week's results, that you get $98.2 million of seasonal purchase power: a 15% increase over last year. In any case, Blu-ray beat nearly everyone's expectations, but then again, everyone's expectations were rather pessimistic in light of past performance and box office strength. Everyone (including) myself just underestimated the power of the seasonal purchases. That said, Blu-ray did well compared to last week and the weeks before, but it was still up just 2.2%, so I guess one can look at it in a glass half full or glass half empty perspective, depending on what the results were being compared to. That 2.2% brought the YoY total from 19.9% to 18.7%. And Q4 YoY, at 17.4%, is now lower than the yearly average (18.7%). So it does look like Blu-ray will finish with an HMM YoY of around 18%, like I had estimated several weeks ago (although last week was so bad, I figured it would end up closer to 17%). Next week should be flat, but it could go either way by quite a bit. The week after Christmas is really hard to guess.
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RIP Kosty. Last edited by bruceames; 01-04-2012 at 04:49 PM. |
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It's worth mentioning that the 2010 HMM DVD estimate of $444.72 was revised downward to $368 million, a difference of over $76 million. HMM has been revising DVD downward all year, by an average of 10.2%. The 2010 DVD sell through 52 week total as originally published was $9.215 billion, and the revised total (with 1 week yet still to count) will be around $8.250 bililon. The odd thing is that the DEG 2010 DVD sell-though is around $8.9 billion, so it probably means it's a preclude to the DVD figures being revised downwards yet again.
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Since Q1, the quarter of the large box office disparity, box office power has been down only 1.4% overall, while Blu-ray has been up 21.3% during that time.
So without the box office excuse to draw upon, Blu-ray is around a 20%+ growth format. In Q4 alone, box office is down 5.2%, while Blu-ray is up 17.4%.
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HMM is still reporting that DVD revenues for the new revised matching 2010 week was $443.55 M a revision of only a tiny $1.17 M. The Blu-ray figures for that matching week were revised slightly upward from $109.27 M to $111.08 M which makes the Blu-ray YoY gain slightly smaller. The new DVD week this year for 12/24/11 was $368.59 M. The revised figures are : 12/25/2010 OD $554.63 12/24/2011 OD $482.11 Last edited by Kosty; 01-04-2012 at 05:28 PM. |
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That is also a factor as well. The total yearly total box office disparity is still -853.3 million in favor of 2010 through 51/52 weeks down -7.96%. We are both tracking Blu-ray revenues at about 19% up in the cumulative weekly YoY HMM tracking statistics. |
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High Definition is the definition of life.
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Surge in Christmas video sales boosted by British talent brings 2011 to a more cheerful end
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Warner Bros, on Ultraviolet - "We recognize that the product is not perfect today,” Mr. Tsujihara said. “We don’t have the luxury of waiting a year until we have everything perfect.” |
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